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Cupping is BS

posted 9 years ago by TiogaTimes
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Not my opinion, but Andy asked the Botched Docs about it on WWHL earlier this week, I can't remember what night.

He brought up the fact that its all the rage among the swimmers this Olympics, and probably other athletes. It was unspoken that Shannon is doing it too, where she claims it helps bring toxins to the surface of the skin and out of the system. The athletes are claiming that it pulls more blood into muscles that need relief.

But Terry Dubrow weighed in and said it had no scientific or therapeutic basis, which is not surprising. To me, it just looks like an expensive way to get hickies all over the body.

I bought some powdered water but didn't know what to add to it.

[–] kerri757 9 years ago

I agree. I can't comment on athletes, but it seems like the society women do it just for attention. They coincidentally have the cupping done right before a big event, and then purposely wear a revealing outfit to show off the bruises.

[–] Simplythebest79424 9 years ago

I think most, if not, ALL alternative medicines and therapies are absolute quackery. Cupping looked painful and pointless. Incidentally, Dr. Moon is NOT a licensed medical doctor. He's simply got a Ph.D. in something else.

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[–] Essentialthings 9 years ago

You can't pull toxins out through the skin like that. It's ridiculous. A fool and his money is soon parted. Dr. Moon knows this much.

[–] booboos 9 years ago

Normally I'd agree about alternative medicine but I don't care about studies proving that it doesn't work...I have had cupping done several times in the past few years for terrible neck pains, and that painful, horrid looking therapy really works!

It hurt, a lot. And looked horrible for a week after. But the muscular pain I was in lessened really fast and lasted a lot longer, much longer than icing, massage from PT, and pain relief from medicine. Pain and cramps went away within an hour and did not come back anytime soon after.

Basically, don't knock it til you try it. No idea why Shannon needs cupping, but worked great for my severe muscular knots, strains and pains.

As a side note, someone wrote online that Phelps got those bruises from falling asleep on all of his medals ??. Too funny, that one killed me!

[–] kerri757 9 years ago

I'm not sure about cupping, but I know that for me, acupuncture helps. Acupuncture gave me back my life. I had compressed nerves in my legs and sometimes I could barely walk. Acupuncture changed my life.

So, I understand what you are saying about an alternative therapy. I don't know much about cupping, but maybe I should check it out.

[–] booboos 9 years ago

My acupuncturist did all the cupping along with thr needles, so deffo ask yours if they think you can try it! My opinion is, worst that can happen is that it doesn't help. But it certainly won't hurt to try! Good luck, report back please :)

[–] hihi_hellokitty 9 years ago

I have extreme back pain and I've tried both cupping and acupuncture. I think cupping is a great way to relieve stress in tight muscles and knots. When they suction the cups sometimes they'll move it around and it feels like the best message ever. I would definitely recommend cupping for those whose muscles never feel relaxed.

[–] piggytoes123 9 years ago

I think western medicine has just always turned their nose up at eastern or alternative medicine. The cure for most things in the west is to just "pop a pill". Eastern or alternative medicine is more about the mind/body/environment which does work for many people. I actually work in medical research and one of the scientists I work with is an MD and is getting a second PhD in alternative medicine, her first PhD is in nutrition. She has done some amazing things and has gotten many people off a cocktail of pills every day.

[–] mbee_says 9 years ago

I'm pretty sure everything Dr. Moon does is a crock of sh*t!

[–] noveltylibrary 9 years ago

It absolutely looks like a frigging joke and the doc sure laughs a lot, probably because people like Shannon fall for it every day.

[–] Jelly-4 9 years ago

I think medical docs are skeptical of alternative medicines that don't have scientific backing. My husband's a doc and he thought it was hogwash.

My opinion is, worst that can happen is that it doesn't help.

Well I read a story online about a guy who got holes burned in his back after cupping, so worse things can happen. I wouldn't try it except as a last resort for something that was seriously debilitating as those marks are unsightly and annoying and last a long time.

I would love to try acupuncture --I've heard amazing things from friends. But I can't get over the disclaimer they put in the release forms saying that puncturing an organ is a risk, albeit a very small one.

[–] kerri757 9 years ago

Puncturing an organ? Yes, skin is technically an organ, but I am astonished that this is the reason you don't want to try acupuncture.

The needles are so thin you barely feel anything. I think the skin "organ" can handle it.

The only thing I know is that the pain in my knees is gone, my back is fine, and my legs don't hurt anymore. Acupuncture gave me back my life.

[–] piggytoes123 9 years ago

I've always wanted to try acupunture to help with migraines. I'm currently 7 months pregnant and haven't been getting migraines but if they come back in the future I'd like to try it.

[–] Jelly-4 9 years ago

Puncturing an organ? Yes, skin is technically an organ, but I am astonished that this is the reason you don't want to try acupuncture.

No I'm not referring to the skin organ.

Read on:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/oct/18/dozens-killed-acupuncture-needles

http://apps.who.int/medicinedocs/en/d/Jwhozip56e/4.5.2.html

[–] kerri757 9 years ago

Wow...I didn't know this. I'm going to print this and take it to my acupuncturist.

I still think my doctor should be okay, because he really knows what he's doing, and he's also the professor of acupuncture at the local college. I've asked about the needles, and each needle is packaged in a sterile cover, and only used once. I guess a person really needs to check out the doctor thoroughly and discuss the risks with the doctor.

Thanks for the info, Jelly!

[–] Jelly-4 9 years ago

I only knew about it because it was mentioned in the forms that I received from a prospective acupuncturist. I still think it is a great treatment and the complication is very rare, but just something to keep in mind.

[–] hihi_hellokitty 8 years ago

They don't go deep enough to puncture an organ. It's not like the needle is inches under your skin. It only goes as far as muscle.

[–] Jelly-4 8 years ago

Oh OK...wonder why those articles state that it's a risk...

[–] Juliegirlj4 8 years ago

It's not uncommon for MD's to balk at alternative medicine treatments. I think it's doubtful that cupping draws toxins out of the body, but it may give some therapeutic benefits-especially for athletes.