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The syndicated/daytime version (spoilers)

posted 16 years ago by arbilab
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I think I just saw the first DOND daytime. 22 cases, top prize is $1/2M. Pace is faster, one contestant completes a game in 1/2 hour. A lot less dawdling. They don't do the family-background thing like nighttime does. I don't recall seeing the family at all. Same music, set, graphics, banker.

A wheel/ball (roulette) chooses a case for you, but you can switch it if you want. The first two contestants didn't switch.

The folks manning the cases are ordinary people, like you'd see in the audience. Mixed, males and females, and definitely not 'models'. Each case has the person's name under it. The case folks are only there for a week, it would flummox Howie trying to memorize their names.

First contestant took the deal for $105K with 3 cases left, and hers held $5K. Second contestant broke the 'no deal' box off its hinges, but the show must go on and they didn't repair it during the break.

Second contestant? Our local station runs 2 shows, one after the other, from 2-3P. I don't know if that's the standard package or not. Is that what you get? Each half hour is freestanding, so it could be sold either way. But you'd have to wonder what happens to the alternate episode a half-hour station doesn't subscribe to.

Oops, he just knocked out the 1/2M, but still has the 1/4M. $32K offer--audience boos--no deal. $1, $1K, and 1/4M left. Offer $37K, and he takes it. His case was $1K. Happy endings. That's what TV is all about.

[–] wildcat2000 16 years ago

Yeah Iv seen it.I love that it moves faster.Glad to hear the normal folks who open the cases are just there for a week,wouldnt be the same without the models.

2 Things I dont really like,one...the wheel picking the player,I mean why can't they just choose a random person before hand like on 'Millionare' or one from the audience like the 'Price is Right',just seems like alot of hype for nothing.Second why did they cut the top prize from 1,000,000 to 500,000? Its harder to get higher offers now.'Who Wants to be a Millionare?' kept the prizes the same after it went into the half-hour daytime version.

Those things aside I still love the show and a lower prize makes each game more intense.

"it ain't how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward."-Rocky

[–] arbilab 16 years ago

You know what hurts the daytime shows? The fact you know for absolute certain that they are going to say "no deal" until the last 3 minutes, no matter what happens with the game or the offers. The same phenomenon affects the primetime version, but you don't know exactly when it will happen--it might roll over into the next episode if they feel a cliffhanger coming on and pad it with family interviews and nonsense to drag it out.

[–] wildcat2000 16 years ago

Well yeah I guess,but I can see this half-hour DOND having cliffhangers too.On the current 'Millionare' basicly every player is a cliffhanger and must return the for the next episode.

Im sure some people will say "Deal" mid-way through the halfhour and they'll have to pick another player...not really a problem.

"it ain't how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward."-Rocky

[–] arbilab 16 years ago

You're "sure"? Well let's watch it for a couple weeks and see if it ever happens. My money is on "not". All players so far have gone down to 1-3 cases.

You'll notice that the 'banker' sets it up that way, by not offering $ comparable to the odds until the last couple offers. In other words, if there are 6 cases left, he should offer 1/6th of the biggest case, but he doesn't.

I also think the 'banker' exaggerates the offers after the contestant has taken the deal ("the bank would have offered you..."). They're always proportionally larger than the 'live' offers you can actually take.

[–] wildcat2000 16 years ago

I don't really think the banker sets its up that way,I mean theres only 3 high amounts...5 hundred grand,250 grand and 100 grand...its pretty hard to give a decent offer midway when there not that many big amounts on the board,especially if one them gets knocked out.

In order to see an offer higher than 100 grand youd pretty much have to keep those 3 amounts in for the whole game,and thats hard.

On the usual hour long version there is 6 high amounts so of course the banker is willing to give offers over 100grand because theres a better chance the player will have a high amount and he wants them to leave with as little as possible while still being fair,in terms of whats left on the board.

"it ain't how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward."-Rocky

[–] arbilab 16 years ago

I'm not talking about the raw dollar amount of the offer. I'm talking about the offer proportional to the highest remaining case divided by the number of cases remaining. It is NOT a linear function, it's manipulated for dramatic effect.

[–] wildcat2000 16 years ago

Ya I know what you mean,I think...but like I said he has to be fair in terms of whats left on the board,this is true for both versions.

Say for example,in the halfhour version...100,000 is the only remaining high amount and theres only a few cases left to open.The banker can not make an offer too close to 100grand cause he knows the player would take it...but it can't be too low because it would be flatout unfair since the games almost over.He'd have to offer somewhere between 55,000-65,000.

Wow,thats hard to explain...lol...anyway imo the banker has been just as fair on the new 30min version as he has been on the hour long version.

"it ain't how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward."-Rocky

[–] arbilab 16 years ago

Oh yes, the banker is the banker, whether he's on for 30 or 60 minutes at a time. That dramatic exaggeration has not changed in the daytime version.

To track what the banker is doing, just take the highest remaining case and divide it by the number of remaining cases. On a linear (non-dramatized) function, the offer should be that number. But it isn't.

The first time the offer exceeds the odds--and it does toward the end of the game--take it.