I got so mad when Polly's mom was yelling at the staff not to kick her out. Instead she should have been yelling at her daughter for screwing things up so bad. The staff didn't make her break the rules, she choose to. It was clear her behavior had been addressed before. She wanted to be the bad ass of the place. It seems this was the first time in her life Polly was held accountable for her actions. I see parents act this way all the time in the school where I work. It is always everyone elses fault but their kid. And wasn't she like 28? She was so upset just before that she might leave because of money and she still broke the rules.
I don't think that Polly was without blame, but it seemed to me that she was a bit of a scapegoat. I heard one of the staff calling her a "bad seed" and someone else remarked on her "negative power". I honestly think that there was something about Polly's manner that made her seem like she was less vulnerable, so the staff kind of used her, labeling her as almost the sole source of the dishonesty and rule-breaking.
It kind of seemed to me like they felt that since her insurance was running out, and she was emotionally less needy (at least on the surface) it would be easy to throw her out, as if to symbolically eliminate the rebelliousness that was, in reality, spread out among many of the patients.
I don't know...in a way, it feels like ridiculous that the staff would be callous like that, but at the same time...it just seems really like an odd way to relate to a patient.
What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.-Emerson
I have to agree. Polly is EXTREMELY manipulative but is very subtle about it. She is TRYING to undermine the other people (I think the help "normalize" her behaviors in her own mind). I think the staff was spot on in their labeling of her.
It was odd to hear the mother say she was mad at the staff. How dare she. They were concerned, hard-working professions trying to do what was best for the other patients. Then again the mother was frustrated and desperate. She had no where else to turn. For Polly it was Renfrew or death.
As I was watching Polly leave I was reminded of a friend I used to have. She would do exactly the same things, get into trouble then cause a huge, overly emotional scene, crying and being so dramatic blaming everyone but herself. It's just manipulative. I hated it when Polly went into the other girls' rooms and said 'Thanks, yall, I'm leaving because of you' (or similar). It wasn't their fault that Polly broke the rules!
I don't think Polly was manipulating intentionally, but it was just something that had worked for her before, it was almost second nature. Still disgusting to watch, though...
In a place like that - or in a drug rehab - you're either with the program or hou're not. If you're with it you "squeal" for lack of a better term. Helping people break the rules helps no one.
Beauty, brains and a complete psycopath. My dream girl.
Really? I thought she was right on target, criticizing the staff. I would be furious if my therapist called me a "bad seed" (not that she knew, I think).
She got a tattoo -- as did the other girl. She was trying to help her friends in the other case.
Honestly, think of Shelly's statements of "I don't know how to live on my own." Many people with ED worry about control. While the structured world of the center may help with that at first, it does not prepare them WHATSOEVER for the real world, where there is no control. In the real world, people break rules.
Polly threw it all away. She had been promoted to a higher level because the staff thought she'd done a lot of work. Then she stupidly (I still can't believe she did that) LIES to the staff about going to a bookstore with Shelly and then goes to a tattoo parlor. That was just so stupid.
Polly backed the staff into a corner; there was no way they could keep her there without essentially sending a message to the other patients that it was OK for *them* to lie to the staff without any adverse consequences.
Maybe it's me, but when they called Polly's mom and told her Polly had to make arrangements to go home, I just pictured the mom thinking, "Oh, crap! Now *I* have to deal with her."
The note at the end of the video says Polly was still struggling with her eating disorder, but she was holding down a job, so at least she was well enough for that. Hopefully she is OK today.
They should have put her on some kind of probation and require her to cut off contact with the other girls that she influenced. Kicking her out was too harsh. It's morally wrong to throw a sick person out and make them fend for themselves.
It's funny; I read that scene so differently. I totally sided with Polly's mother. I know that staff in such places are worried about one person jeopardizing the recovery of everyone else, but neither of Polly's transgressions seemed particularly terrible. Okay, giving medication to someone else is potentially dangerous, but she did it to help someone else who was hurting; it was misguided, but well intentioned. (Not to mention...two sedatives? Come on.) As for the tattoo, I find it a mysterious rule to begin with, esp. since the girls chose a recovery symbol, but maybe tattooing and piercing are considered akin to self-mutilation? I guess Polly's biggest mistake was lying, but she certainly wasn't alone in that.
I also was really put off by the way the staff discussed the patients, and I'm sure many at Renfrew were embarrassed by what was caught on film. So much of it was so childish and gossipy -- as someone mentioned, calling Polly a bad seed, or suggesting that she was a source of negativity. Or the nutritionist, who said she didn't trust Shelly "as far as she could throw her," and who didn't immediately apologize for the false accusation she'd made. The staff seemed as cliquish and unprofessional as the patients. I worked briefly as a middle-school teacher, and remember my first time in a staff break room; I was shocked at how these purportedly mature, educated caregivers gossiped viciously about their students. It's the sort of thing that seems particularly offensive in staff with leadership positions.
Maybe, too, it's because I know what ultimately happened to Polly. Staying at Renfrew another few weeks might not have made a lick of difference, but I guess we'll never know.
I was aware of Polly's death when it happened last Feb., and after watching this doc again last night, I feel the need to come to the defense of Polly's mom.
The moms hard words for the staff were a desperate, anxious cry for help for her daughter, I'm convinced of that now. Polly's mom was well aware that if her daughter came home, all hope was gone vanished - out the window. And she was right, wasn't she?
And though I'm sure editing had a huge part to play in this particular scene as Polly is being thrown out, it also seems that mom didn't get furious until the staff themselves were absolutely closed-minded to Polly staying in treatment. Mom begged and pleaded to let her daughter stay, but the staff was not going to allow this from the get go. The staff did what they had to do - and Polly's mom became defensive for the life of her daughter in the best way she knew how - fury.
I don't know any of these people in the documentary - but as a mom myself I can certainly relate to her desperation.
As for Ed & Mia? I'm sure I'll catch a lot of sh*t for this too, but these are the most self-serving, self-absorbed, childlike antics of illness I have ever seen. There are VERY few people I have sympathy for with Ed & Mia. The ONLY participant in this doc that broke my heart was the young teenager whose mom had an Ed herself. That poor child has just about never had a chance growing up with such a mom, chew & spew, whatever the hell the teen & mom called it. That's NOT mother/daughter bonding - that's just downright, IGNORANT and STUPID.
Call me selfish and crude myself - I don't care. I don't see anything deeply psychologically wrong with many of these women - other than acting like a bunch of spolied, selfish brats (excluding the young teen for the most part)
But for Polly's mom, and as a mom myself, I see her words during the conference call as desperate cries for help to save her daughter in whatever way possible, and just wanted to come to her defense.
As a matter of fact, I think you are absolutely right.
Watching this movie, I wanted to slap everyone on screen. This place is one big walking catfight. It isn't a rehab, it's a middle school.
These women and girls are all complete idiots. Snarky, small minded, selfish, childish, spoiled brats.
The reason people with eating disorders are often so difficult to deal with is because they have a disease which puts them in a prolonged adolescence. You get grown women who behave like 13-year-olds.
<< As for the tattoo, I find it a mysterious rule to begin with, esp. since the girls chose a recovery symbol, but maybe tattooing and piercing are considered akin to self-mutilation? I guess Polly's biggest mistake was lying, but she certainly wasn't alone in that. >>
Re: the ban on tattooing...I wonder if, in addition to the other reasons mentioned, this could also be simply about recognizing that the patients HAVE to follow certain rules while they're there. The rules could be anything.
They're in an institution where they're there to (in addition to other things) change behaviors, not give in to impulses, and accept that their previous choices have not worked for them.
If the rules of the house are that on, say, Wednesday everyone wears blue and on Fridays everyone wears green...well, you'd do that, too, or have to leave. How dedicated is someone to their own recovery if they refuse to follow rules in a medical facility, when they're rules that aren't abusive?
And patients/client have daily therapy where they can yell and whine about not being able to get a tattoo...and hopefully get to the root of why they think this would be SO important for them to do, NOW. So, it's not like they've been left without resources or care. .
I was just going to post here that I thought Polly was the most annoying of all the women in the documentary. Now I found out that in 2008 she committed suicide. I am not going to say anything more.