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Are these people all idiots?

posted 19 years ago by lmsa50
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or is it just me? With the exception of the yacht sinking in the storm/shark infested waters, they are all filled with idiots...the kayak guy, and ESPECIALLY the dipsizzzz that decided it was a good idea to hole up in a cave on the side of a mountain with his son where no one could see them ((surrrrre someone will find you...they CAN'T SEE YOU IF YOU ARE IN A $%^&* CAVE!!!!!))).

I scream at the TV on every episode LOL. But i absolutely love this show

We all enjoy the maddness 'cuz we know we're gonna fade away

[–] tuinator 19 years ago

ESPECIALLY? c'mon, give the guy w/ his son some slack. they couldn't go on because his son couldn't go any further, which is also why he had to find shelter in the unexpected blizzard. i'd rather take the refuge of a cave for the sake of my family member than to freeze to death ploughing through completely alien surroundings. also, he was taught survival training so he was doing the best he could in the situation. he marked the spot with the skier's universal sign of distress, he and his son knew it was best to stay because people were looking for them, and he knew the danger of eating ice during survival, which i didn't know at all (i'm from southern california).

[–] j-lees 19 years ago

The guy who plays Larry in the Kayak story is HOT. His name is Nick Hunnings, anyone ever heard of him???

[–] TinorialPeredhil 18 years ago

I would just say that they made mistakes. It's a corny saying, but 100% true: Looking back is always 20/20. They couldn't possibly know for sure that something was going to happen. Now, would I go to a deserted island and not tell anyone when I would return. NO, but let's just call these people accident-prone.

I, too, love this show. It is my current favorite!

[–] Pratterson 18 years ago

I don't think the mountaint dude (warren) was stupid. He was an experienced climber, so he was justified in climbing the mountain. and it'ssimple camp etiquette to go pee away from the camp, and he had climbed similar boulders before. He was just plain unlucky.

[–] Ulfric 19 years ago

I agree these stories often involve some pretty stupid mistakes. Hmmm lets go Kayaking even though we don't know how. Ok, theres an easy way out of this problem we just hug the shore and take the ferry. Oh, noes lets not do that, lets try to get ourselves killed instead! The one where they tried to climb a small mountain on that island... he just goes up there without planning it out at all. Then he wanderes off in the dark by himself just to go pee? AND that crazy tour guide, they should have turned around right after they realized he was a complete nutjob.

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[–] peter9-1 18 years ago

I can understand how some of you guys might not understand the idea of "adventure", as it can't be taught with a mouse and keyboard. These people are brilliant.

[–] TinorialPeredhil 18 years ago

I'm not saying that they aren't. Everyone I have seen has been an expert in their field. They ARE unlucky. I disagree with some decisions, but I would probably have done the same thing in their shoes.

For example, Warren WAS just plain unlucky, but he didn't tell anyone when he was coming back. The kayakers (sp?) were experienced, or at least one was. It's not stupidity or idiocy that these people are afflicted with. They're just normal, atheltic people met with a sick twist of fate.

[–] Ulfric 18 years ago

"The kayakers (sp?) were experienced, or at least one was. It's not stupidity or idiocy that these people are afflicted with."
They had an easy way out and chose to almost get themeselves killed instead. I would indeed call that stupidity.

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[–] pptcadvertising 18 years ago

Well, the overwhelming majority are men?!?! I bike a lot and almost every cyclist walking beside a bike with a flat tire is a guy...unprepared and invincible. Not male-bashing here, just stating an observation.

[–] toriegibb 18 years ago

The part that I found the most stupid in the kayaker's story was that they were paddling to a nude beach. In november. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't often go to nude beaches in the middle of november. There are clearly holes in their stories.

[–] izod86 18 years ago

i think he said hot tubbing at that beach. not in the ocean.

[–] altrgod 18 years ago

This series is somewhat interesting, it definetly shows you in some episodes how not to do the dumb sh it. Like the guy and his wife and their baby getting stuck in a wildlife park and he just plowed into the snow. The funniest part of that episode was when they decided to try to take a short cut to a highway by walking towards a mountain, I was like WTF they almost deserve to die. Why not, this is just my opinion just back trak along the road you took to where you got stuck. I mean hell instead of spending a week+ out there they could have walked to the highway by then.

The amazon one was also messed up, almost like a bizarre fiction story or joke. Three men goto the amazon a Jew, an American and a swiss.....and meet up with a crazy austrian. Just goes to show you how little forethough some people put into their travel plans.

[–] trickstr-1 18 years ago

I agree that many of the situations these people got themselves into could have been avoided. E.g., Kayaking at night in treacherous water when you have never even been in a kayak before is careless and stupid. The mistakes that they make isn't the point of the show though. Many of the mistakes could happen to anyone.

The point of the show is to portray the amazing will to survive, and the drive to save themselves and their friends, in spite of every conceivable obstacle that is thrown at them. It is a truly inspirational, and perhaps educational, show. These people should be dead.

I loved the episode about the two guys climbing the ice cliff in Alaska. One guy fell, busted his head up, dislocated his hip, they survived three avalanches, fell into a crevace, their bad luck never ended. It's truly amazing they are alive! I can't get enough of this show!

[–] Fadeux 18 years ago

This is the worst show ever, just watched an episode of hikers in the grand canyon. Their major problem? Lack of water... Ok, now, when you plan a multiple day hike into the Grand Canyon, and you dont realize how hot its going to be, and you fail to bring enough water, THAT IS STUPIDITY, NOT DRAMA.. Those dumb shi*s all deserved to die down there... Just some examples..

Guy collapses on DAY 2! DAY 2! and cant go any further... Has he ever hiked before?

The dont start hiking on day 2 (when they know they are in "trouble") til 8am, then a few hours later someone suggests they hike at night?

ITS ALL A DOWNHILL HIKE... Not that tough, even in 112 heat, (and yes, I hike in az all the time during summer)

I also love how the kid says "I have my first aid Merit badge, but they dont teach you how to deal with THIS" What? HEAT STROKE... What in the hell are they teaching these "scouts" How to use a band-aid without touching the cut? Nice work Eagle Scout.

I have like a dozen other gripes, but ill save em, the only reason to watch this show is to laugh at people, just like americas dumbest criminals.

[–] TinorialPeredhil 18 years ago

Alright. Let's see. I just saw that episode as well. A few minutes for rebuttal, please?

The hikers did not know that it was going to be 112 degrees. The company was almost as safe as it could possibly be. They had boys who had already done some hiking. They had water (that would have been enough if not for the freak heat wave). They had a troop leader who had hiked before. They had not one, but TWO expert hikers with them, at least one of whom knew the trail well. The only mistake they made: They had neither a walkie-talkie or a cell phone. In this case, that one mistake was fatal.

Yes. Guy collapsed on day 2. I'm sure he's hiked before -- and even if he hasn't, what is your point? That he is an idiot for hiking with his boy scouts? That the scout leader is an idiot for hiking with his boy scouts?? Interesting.

Yes, Mark did say that they do not teach you how to deal with THIS. You know what THIS is? Not necessarily heat stroke -- try, 'They do not teach you how to be fifteen years old and watch your friend die.' That is what they do not teach you. They don't teach you the shock that you are going to feel, the desperation... they may have taught him the moves, they may have educated him about heat stroke, but they certainly didn't bring in his best friend and nearly kill him. Think about it.

You think it's so damn easy. If it were THAT easy, then would the entire troop be in the condition they were? You say you hike all the time. Go hike in the Grand Canyon in 112 degree weather for three days. You would still have an advantage: you'd prepare for the temperature.

You are one of the last people on Earth who has the right to call these people idiots.

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[–] Eva1-1 18 years ago

Amen to that! I'm sure it's easy to just sit on your couch and make fun of these people from the comfort of your living room. Being there, possibly facing death, no matter HOW you got there, is not exactly a laughing matter. I cheer those who make it out alive because it's probably a whole lot easier to just give up and die in some situations (as shown in nearly every episode) than to take the courageous steps to attempt to survive.

[–] ox_emely 18 years ago

TinorialPeredhil, thank you! you are my new hero.

Fadeux, I'd love to see you hike along the Grand Canyon for 3 days in 112 degree temperatures. I seriously doubt you'd make it when your brain cells fry up from dehydration.

God, people like you shouldn't reproduce. << sig.

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[–] Myaxmatosis 18 years ago

You obviously don't know anything about anything. Leave.