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Saw it Last Night: Joyless & Bleak Film


I saw Silence last night at a packed industry screening. You should've seen the audience members walking out of the screening. No applause when the credits came up, silence on Scorsese's credit as well. Again, these are industry people who normally clap for most films.

I never walk out of films, but I had wanted to walk out around the time some of the Japanese Christians had the ocean tide rise and fall over them repeatedly for days. It was really hard to watch. I started asking myself, "why am I watching something so unpleasant?" I might as well be kicking myself in the balls somewhere else. But somehow I kept on watching.

Here are a few spoilers if you actually plan on seeing this film.

I found the Inquisitor Inouye's whole performance offensive in a Breakfast at Tiffany's Mickey Rooney way. High-pitched hammed up horrible English accent.

The only parts of the film I found remotely interesting were when Liam Neeson's character finally shows up to challenge the Padre's beliefs. Also Asano Tadanobu added a bit more respectable performance to keep the film from continually slowing to an unbearable crawl.

In some ways, this film feels like anti-Japanese propaganda, with the continual sadism and persecution of the Christians. I find the aim of missionaries to be somewhat arrogant and ignorant. They are in a foreign country, not to learn the local customs, but to preach about their superior morality and the righteous path. Christians may find this film to be interesting as a "test of faith" type of way. If you are not religious, you may wonder why you are suffering through the task of watching this film. Normally, I can frame religious themes in a historical and cultural context, but religion is such a central theme of this film it's impossible to see around it.

In any case, I don't know how I sat through this film for an additional hour and a half after the ocean torture scene. There's about maybe 30 minutes of this film worth watching, which is obviously not worth it when you have to sit through more than two and a half torturous hours to see it.

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Funny. This is exactly how I feel about the overwhelming majority of modern day blockbuster flicks, like the Fast & Furious franchise, and the cookie-cutter Superhero spectacles.....

Joyless, bleak, and quite unpleasant.


SPIRAL OUT!........KEEP GOING!

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kek Fast and Furious is many things but I would not describe it as "bleak"/

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I'm sorry to hear that you didn't like it. I for one am thoroughly anticipating its release, but I don't expect it to have much of an impact on Oscar voters nor to make much of a splash at the box office. I'm sure it will be a great movie in any case!

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And who says it must be "joyful"?

Many of the past masters of world cinema and artistic films have made films about men struggling with faith or religion or other existential crisis...often at a slower, languid pace...

I wonder how many people today would consider the works of Ingmar Bergman, Robert Bresson, and Michelangelo Antonioni "boring", "joyless", "bleak", and that oft-overused-internet-dirty-word, "pretentious", if they were released today??? And these are considered among the greats of world cinema....

I watch a film like Bresson's "Mouchette", or Antonioni's "The Passenger", or Bergman's "Winter Light" absolutely riveted.

On the other hand, all these blockbusters of sci-fi and comic-book-dom BORE me to beyond crying tears...

Different things for different people...


This season, while everyone is flooding to "Star Wars" and "Moana" and "Fantastic Beasts"..."Silence" will quietly flop...


Then, 10 years from now, people will say "Silence" is one of the all-time greats...

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Anti-Japanese -propaganda? Really? I spent years in Japan, love the people, and am going back there in the future. However, I am fully aware of their history, culture and mindset. They have done some amazingly barbaric things, it is part of their history. Is showing these parts anti-Japanese propaganda? No. Its like saying Schindler's List is anti-German propaganda. Japanese are diverse, more than ramen, Godzilla, and Pokemon, and its ok to show the good and the bad. Hollywood's trouble is that they bend over backwards so much not to offend or to be politically correct, they create something as artificial as Breakfast At Tiffany's going the other way, and pat themselves on the back about what a great job they do.

Speaking of artificial, I worked in the industry before obtaining a law degree. What you described is actually an endorsement to me; I would be worried if a bunch of industry insiders raved about it.

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No applause when the credits came up,


Since you're making that out to be as if it's a bad thing, I can't take your review seriously. Only morons clap at the end of a film.

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That's what people do in L.A. If they see a movie they respect, they applaud because often the filmmakers and crew members on the film or studio employees are in the audience. I guess the people who make the films you watch are all morons.

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Perhaps they were too shocked to applaud. I've seen several people write (both believers and non believers) that they were shattered/in tears by the end of it.

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It’s one of Scorsese’s best. What’s wrong with you?

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I didn’t like the ending

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