It was right near the beginning, when the narrator said that saints lived forever, their families lived forever, and never age. My first thought was, "oh, so that's what happened to Mother Tersea?" Really, was that the best explanation this film could come up with? And what about all the people who are saints because they died?
Perhaps I'm being too critical, since it is a kid's movie, but this film just kept getting worse after that.
NARF!
It's a movie about Santa...were you expecting an element of realism? And actually, when I think about it, I honestly can't think of another way to explain why the entire Claus family was still alive hundreds of years later. I mean obviously I had questions, but I just shrugged them off and tried to enjoy the film for what it was, a couple hours of entertainment that didn't require me to think much.
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So saints living forever was too unbelieveable for you, but elves flying a magic sleigh powered by reindeer was totally plausible?!?
It's a movie about Santa Claus- perhaps you need to learn how to suspend your disbelief a little or strictly watch documentaries from now on.
...and if they & their families never age, how come santa looks soooo much older than his OLDER brother fred?!
share1. You can only become a saint after you die. There are no living saints anyway.
2. The best idea would be to have Santa coming from a long line of Santas, rather than being the same guy over the years. I think that'd make more sense, BUT that would eliminate a lot of the plot points, BUT this movie has a stupid plot to begin with, so I dunno, whatever.
It was okay as far as Christmas movies go, but yeh that saint thing's just stupid.
I think what the OP is getting at is how they just threw that in without putting any thought to it. But then again sometimes it is best to just those things out of the way quickly.
shareThis is from a while ago but just thought I'd add that Mother Theresa became a saint after she died as do all saints. Santa became a saint while he was still alive therefore him and his family lived forever. Congrats you had a hard time following a kids movie you mest be real bright.
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Bright enough to run a spell-check before posting...
Mother Theresa became a saint after she died as do all saints. Santa became a saint while he was still alive therefore him and his family lived forever.
Why are we arguing the rules of Sainthood?
The whole film demands the absolute suspension of disbelief from start to finish.
Fred Claus flying around the world eating every cookie, every canoli, every bagel placed in front of him by millions, even billions of families in one night while flying through the air behind a bunch of reindeer, carrying gifts for every kid on the planet in one big bag? In 12 hours or so? That's not a leap of faith for you?
And we are discussing the rules of Sainthood?
Come on!
LOL. No, it isn't a big deal. However, sometimes it's fun to analyze and make sense of things. And I like for everything to gel and make sense, dangit. I wanna know the -facts- about Santa!
Everyone knows the whole deal with Santa, reindeer, the North Pole, elves, and Christmas magic. I'm not going to question any of that in a holiday film. However, any new concepts introduced in a movie really SHOULD be reasonable and gel with everything else that's known...which is why I'm cool with this film's theory of sainthood. :D It's nice to have most holiday films and versions of Santa/Kris Kringle/Father Christmas, the North Pole, etc., be able to reconcile and fit within the same universe, rather than all being necessarily separate (and therefore feeling like less believable or magical) things.
This is hilarious. The rules of sainthood being discussed for this movie. I actually laughed more at this thread than I did the movie.
For those who actually might care in any way Santa Claus is not a real saint in the eyes of the church. He's a fictional character that is based in part on Saint Nicholas who is considered to be a real saint.
He's taking the knife out of the Cheese!
Do you think he wants some cheese?
Mm, I thought it was a pretty funny movie and definitely didn't laugh that hard about this...but it is rather amusing. And I kind of figured that--about Santa Claus/"Saint Nick" not literally being one of the saints, but of course being based on Saint Nicholas. Didn't know it for certain, though. That's...a bit sad, but oh well. Doesn't make Santa any less cool. xD
sharePerhaps in this universe all saints do live forever, but they fake their own death and change their identity. Or fake their own death and do good in the shadows where other people get credit.
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Hahahahaha! Hahahahaha! The OP said that Fred Clause was implausable. Hahahahaha! hahah! hahahaha! bwahahahah! hahahaha!
shareGreat responses everyone.
I do thing that Fred Claus is a great modern Christmas film.
Vaughn has spectacular moments in this film.
The film has a great heart.
The rest of the cast, down to every elf, to Giamattia, Spacey, everyone, is wonderful.
The Silent Night overlay while all of Santa's helpers feed out of the workshop, across the village and into wherever, well that is absolutely touching.