'You said the house was empty!' - Seraphim Falls (2007) Discussion

[–] tilmelding4077 18 years ago

If you're referring to your own post, then I agree!

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[–] shorne1 18 years ago

Absolutley lame. Some sort of movie script shorthand to show the drama of their lives...by this point the script was becoming complete comedy.

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[–] ridingxlightning 18 years ago

ahh yes, thats exactly it. Instead the line should have been "YES BURN LITTLE CHILDREN, IM DARTH VADER!"

that would have been much better

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[–] antherick 18 years ago

Darth Vader would never have said anything like that, did you ever watch the movies, or did you make up his character by yourself?

But yeah the line would have been better suited for Neeson's character, and change house to horse. "YOU SAID THE HORSE WAS EMPTY!"

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[–] ssny27 18 years ago

No, he's right. That whole scene was necessary but just didn't work. It all felt over-acted, under-prepared and basically bad.

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[–] SubSane 18 years ago

Agreed... that whole flashback scene felt forced. I've thought that perhaps the film would have been better without it.

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[–] calishreveguy 18 years ago

No it was necessary by showing what happened between these two men in the first place. And I think Bronsan's character just had a delayed reaction from the craziness that was going on. It was right after the Civil War after all and they probably wern't playing with a full deck of cards at the time.

TMNT forever!

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[–] Burning_Sosobra 18 years ago

Liam is horrible at playing a cowboy. "Let's rustle up some cattles and get a move on, hey." - in a crazy Irish accent.

"Funny thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have."

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[–] eyehatetofu 18 years ago

What's wrong with a Irish cowboy? There were all types out west at that time, it wouldn't be out of place. Not everyone sounds like John Wayne.
Also, I didn't see any problem with the aforementioned line. It was necessary or the movie would have been horrible, you would barely have a clue why this man is hunting down another.

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[–] Burning_Sosobra 18 years ago

I was just joking, I think Liam is a good actor and obviously can play a wide range of roles. Yes, there were a lot of Irish immigrants. Maybe not too many Irish immigrants that were colonels for the Confederate army, but certainly there were a lot of Irishmen.

"Funny thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have."

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[–] mannoe 17 years ago

Don't know about the Confederacy, but there were whole regiments of Irish on the Union side

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[–] Torquenstein 17 years ago

All because of a misunderstanding...

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[–] John_Titor_2036 17 years ago

I think the flashback sequence was just poorly placed and badly handled by the Editor, who should have inserted the material more subtly, so it wouldn't seem so jarring when it comes on.

I didn't have an issue with the use of flashback, or with the use of metaphysical psychology during the ending, but only as long as it's handled appropriately.

Unfortunately, too many viewers found these two elements of the film disruptive and unclear, for the Director to say "it worked!" with a straight face.

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[–] Squaredealer33 17 years ago

You missed the next line, which was: "They're just Rebels."

The first line introduced the answer, which is one of the reasons for the scene. The answer is also referenced earlier in the script when Gideon states that he was just following orders.

So the writer gives us some familiar war themes used in various ways, and separates the two main characters as opposites throughout the story.

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[–] rootleafdinner 17 years ago

Agreed! He still watched as the wife and son ran into the house anyhow. So even if he thought it was empty he had no problem with her re-occupying it.

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[–] Matt_phoenixuk 17 years ago

I reckon that scene was just badly edited, you could see the actors working at it, but it got cut together so fast you got no real feel for the drama of the decisions they were making.
Prob should have been cut out all together really, dont think it would have mattered if we never found out why Neesons character was doing this, although you get the gist in other scenes. Judging by the way it ended it was more bout futility of revenge in western backdrop, essentially. And through out the film, its focus is more on the hardships faced-rather then the motivation to do so. Revenge could of just served as maguffin to tell a story of sufferance.

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