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Theory about the ammo thieves.

posted 18 years ago by ljriffel
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So when Carver and his one remaining hired gun stay with the "religious people" it seemed to me they were not really religious. The main guy had a rope burn on his neck (survived a hanging?) and he said he got it because of Mormons. Were Mormons back then hanging opposing religious leaders? That made no sense. Anyway, they also had booze and played secular music ("not hymns") and stole their ammo. The next day the two come upon a broken wagon, a broken organ, misc. refuse and a bible on the ground. I think maybe the 'religious people' were a band of western "gypsies", came upon some real Mormon settlers, got rid of them and took over their identities. Just a detail of this movie I had not read here yet.

Cheers!

[–] picap 18 years ago

The Mormons then, or at least some of them (maybe including Brigham Young) were doing much worse than hanging opposing religious leaders. They were involved in the (Edit) 1857 Massacre at Mountain Meadows resulting in the slaughter of 120 people (men, women and children).

As for how religious the man was that Carver met there are all kinds of religious sects, even some that drink and have secular music in their repertoire. To say he was creepily suspicious would not be an understatement but that doesn't bar him from being some religious leader.

[–] JohnBowling62 18 years ago

The "religious people" seemed creepy and suspicious but I don't think it is because the director was trying to communicate that they were not in fact religious. Rather, I think that this is just how Hollywood views religious people. Media has become out of touch with reality and feeds special interest groups with gross caricatures.

[–] Harlekein 18 years ago

You can drop the 'Hollywood is against me' stint. It gets old quick and makes you look absolutely ridiculous.

[–] yatman56 18 years ago

Sorry, had to comment....but it is still OK for Hollywood to say that the world is against them???

[–] JPMerola 13 years ago

Could it possibly be Hollywood's suggestion that the "good" people take the ammunition to "Prevent gun violence" and the devil (gun industry) supplies the weapons in spite of the "good" people's intentions? No, Hollywood, and their many (not all) anti-gun writers, director, and actors, would never stoop to anti-gun rhetoric in their violence based films.

[–] Hattrem-4 18 years ago

1957 massacre? Wow.

[–] picap 18 years ago

Whoops, evidently a typo. That's 1857 of course.

[–] heywood_jablomey 17 years ago

They were saviours, they stole the bullets because they knew they were to kill each other. The constant battle between heaven and hell in the western landscape.

[–] brainframe 17 years ago

I kind of thought they were "ghosts" of the broken camp and organ they find the next day. The rope mark was how he had died.

[–] fourkings4 17 years ago

I think that Brain has it. Good catch!

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