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If Anjelica is the Devil- is the Indian an angel, a God...?


The appearance of the Indian, in front of the desert, somewhat sharing justice, and a bit of wisdom, gave away that there might be a pinch of mystery and something supernatural about to happen in the end. Anjelica just made it a fact.

What do you think, is the Indian an angel, is he real, or is he just Satan's little helper?

i gave her my heart, and she gave me a pen

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I'd say helper of the devil, as he basically enabled both Carver and Gideon to make it out to the middle of nowhere, where they both met 'Madam Louise'.


Thought I guess it could be argued that the Indian could be an angel, enabling them to be tested by the devil and see if they're capable of overcoming.

Actually I like that idea better.

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The indian at the waterhole is called Mr. Charon in the credits. Charon in greek mythology was the ferryman, whom you paid in silver to cross the river Styx, the gateway to Hades (Hell). Madame Louise sounds alot like like Mephistopheles (aka Old scratch, the Devil), and the deserts of the southwest are about as close to hell as you are going to find short of committing a mortal sin yourself and being given the eternal personal tour. Not overly subtle as symbolism goes.

Perhaps it is all a shared fever dream at the end since both men seemed to have the same dreams earlier in the movie.

"It is well that war is so terrible, else I should grow to love it too much."

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hokansonart, you've got it right. Let me add that, if you pay attention to the back end of the wagon that Huston drives, her character's name is written on a board: Louise C. Fair, Proprietor. Speak the name aloud.... sound familiar? Lucifer, anyone? (imdb's trivia section hints at it as well)

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The symbolism in this movie was heavy handed and mostly film school quality. "Louise C. Fair" is a direct rip off of "Louis Cyphre" (Robert DeNiro) in Angel Heart.

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"...Carver forgave Gideon and the events in the desert changed both their lives for the better."

They were both going to die within a day anyway. How do you think their lives were changed for the better?

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They ended with closure, forgiveness. Both their lives had been consumed by the chase and then it was over. Sounds better than any alternatives to me.

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"...Carver forgave Gideon and the events in the desert changed both their lives for the better."

They were both going to die within a day anyway. How do you think their lives were changed for the better?

I think the two of them made peace, even if they were to die within a day.

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So you don't think it's better to make peace before you die?

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"The symbolism in this movie was heavy handed and mostly film school quality. "Louise C. Fair" is a direct rip off of "Louis Cyphre" (Robert DeNiro) in Angel Heart."

That very well could be a coincidence.

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Hades is not hell. Hades is simply afterlife. Both good and bad people go there. The concept of heaven and hell is a solely monotheist one, and pretty nonsensical, too.

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of course this is based on your beliefs,and not on any facts that you have. you assume this based on your background, so it could be true the other way and there is a heaven and hell, just a thought, in my opinion, just a thought. but i won't tell you how to believe, as you have told others how nonsensical the theory of heaven and hell would be to anyone, that is your right to expound your beliefs.

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I was baffled a bit by the ending till I thought about it a bit and I realized it was really good. I was at least glad they didn't have some duel where one walks away victorious after killing the other, would've been far too predictable.

"Walk down the right back-alley in Sin City, and you can find anything...."

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I reckon that's so.

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Fantastic comment. Superb.

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it was not about evil or good they both had a choice to do right or wrong until the very end both walked on wrong side one was consumed with revenge other one in guilt, then at the end they forgive themselves not each other.

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