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Is this a mistake in your opinion

posted 8 years ago by savair1
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Ok first I want people to hold off on the old "Well its only a movie" statements and listen to what I am about to say. First I am going to bring up a few facts from Rocky 1 if you notice when he is fighting Spider Rico in the first Rocky the date that flashes up is Nov 25 , 1975. I want everyone reading this post to remember that date for when I make my point later. I also know that in Rocky Balboa the Ali computer right with Marciano is brought up. In other words the Rocky universe acknowledges both the existence of Joe Frazier(from Rocky 1) as well as Ali in Rocky Balboa. I am well aware that its only a movie, I am also well aware that one can not forget that on Nov 25 1975, the champion was Ali, which makes me wonder where in the Rocky universe did Ali come in to existence, which also makes me ask the same question about Joe Frazier. This is not so much as a mistake as an acknowledgement that you have to organize fictional people in history.

[–] taran-rod 8 years ago

I don't think that even Stallone would have the answer for you! :p I think the aknownledgement of Ali is more of a tribute than it was meant to make sense in the timeline of the story. Stallone never hide the fact that Ali was a huge inspiration for Rocky, so I would be really surprised if he really thought about the possible plot holes at this point. You should not forget that Stallone is not Kubrick or Tarantino, he can add elements to his movies without thinking about the deep significations of them. Still, the first Rocky and Rocky Balboa are my two favorite movies of all time! ^^ But I would lie to myself if I say that Stallone is anywhere near from a perfectionist. He is just... My favorite actor of all times!

[–] HourglassUppercut 8 years ago

Rocky was Ring Magazine champion, Ali was WBC

[–] MaximRecoil (4849) 5 years ago

No. Apollo Creed was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, and when Rocky beat him he became the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

In professional boxing, the undisputed champion of a weight class is the boxer who holds world titles from all four of the major sanctioning organisations—WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO—simultaneously.

[–] MeYouFools (175) 5 years ago

It is a mistake. Until "Balboa" came along, Apollo Creed was supposed to take the place of Ali in Rocky's universe.

"Balboa" has a couple of problems like that. Like Adrian's tombstone says she was born in 1950, making her five years younger than Rocky. But the first movie makes a big deal out of how Rocky and Adrian are both 30 years old in 1975.

Sly was not paying attention.

[–] Sidha108 (2737) 4 years ago

It’s probably kind of like in movies and TV shows about fictional presidents which also make references to real-life historical events and past presidents making the audience wonder what is real and what isn’t.