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Final thoughts on the movie


After watching it, I figure its Okay. A lot of the way they portrayed things bug me and bring the movie down but I see why they did it. Basically it just looks like Diddy an Ms. Wallace's way of showing the best of Biggie and trying to hide the worst. The problem is, its all painfully obvious. Now I love Big's music but...well hes a piece of *beep* it ain't hard to *beep* tell. He didn't care about anything but himself, his money, his women, and his weed. I'm sure he had some love for his kids and for his baby mama's but not like the movie showed. I don't see any kind of major revolution from Ready to Die to Life after Death. Its all the same *beep* Hustling; money; women.

My gripe isn't with Big, because thats fine, my gripe is with the movie trying to cover that all up. Overall, besides that the movie just...was kinda average/bad. It felt like a made for tv movie and it shouldn't feel like that. The acting was pretty terrible all around. Worst offender is the guy they had playing Pac, made me cringe but at least he wasn't in the movie much. Speaking of Pac...I thought the movie did a pretty awful job of portraying the entire west/east beef. Of course in big's movie they're going to run with big's story of the whole event but there was a ton of back and forth, the only thing they really touched on was big doing who shot ya in sac. None of the radio interviews or any of it; made it look like in the movie Pac was just arguing with himself until he got killed.

Last complaint...might be unfair but this guy just didn't sound like Biggie at all. Like I said might be an unfair complaint but listen to a real biggie song then listen to Jamal Woolard on the battles or recording sessions or concerts. Doesn't even seem like they tried to capture biggie's tone/voice or anything. The way to do a biography/drama = Malcolm X... the way not to = Notorious. The only way I finished the movie was because every 5 scenes I'd get to hear a biggie song.

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I agree and disagree with some of your thoughts, as a Biggie and Pac fan I'd have to agree that The guy playing Tupac was horrible, not only did he not look anything like him he didn't act like him at all. The guy playing biggie didn't sound like biggie but he did have good flow and delivery which played a big part in me finishing this movie. After all, how many people that can act could actually immitate Big? The girl playing Lil Kim was spot on in my opinion. Also, hiphop just like any other genre out there is a form of entertainment, and just like in movies we shouldn't think that everything they say in the albums are actually based on true events.

I gave the movie a 5/10 because like you've stated, they kept trying to make him seem like the good guy. Especially Puff, they made him seem like a saint and a philosopher. They also did a terrible job depicting in more detail how a lot of people still accuse Puffy of putting a hit on Pac and all of that was barely touched in the movie. The same way a lot of other people accuse Suge Knight of being involved in both Big's and Pac's murder.

I thought it was better than a "made for TV movie" but it was everything I expected it to be. Considering I'm a huge old school and underground hiphop fan and how much I loved Ready to Die it's just now when I actually saw Notorious for the first time. I never expected it to be a really good movie. 5/10 overall.

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