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much better if gust avrakotos was the focus of the movie.


he was interesting. didn't speak in cliché & was just all around intelligent.



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makes sense he did a lot more stuff!





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i agree he really stole the movie from tom hanks. for me he was just the more interesting character to watch out of the three main ones.

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totally agree.



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That would have made a boring movie given that Avratotos was kicked off the Afghan desk in the early eighties as punishment for speaking out against the Iran Contra plan and was assigned busy work at the company until he retired.

So he wasn't actually involved in most of the things that happened after he got the ball rolling which would be most of the things that were portrayed in the film.

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well, where did gus go? that's the movie.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gust_Avrakotos#Biography_and_career

"Avrakotos' position in the agency meant that he was also responsible for Iran. In 1985 he witnessed a group within the government, including Oliver North, Bud McFarlane, certain members of the National Security Council, and others attempting to run the Iran arms-for-hostages trade using the CIA. He told his superior Clair George that the Iran Contra trade was a disaster in the making, as he did not trust Manucher Ghorbanifar nor the Israelis pushing the scheme, and he viewed the people like North as the "lunatic fringe" who had earlier tried to bring bizarre ideas into the Afghan war. Avrakotos also warned George that the scheme was illegal and wrote a notable memo distributed within the CIA to that effect. According to author George Crile, the bureaucracy punished Avrakotos for his dissent and then banished him to a do-nothing job with little responsibility, just as his greatest success, the Afghan program, was showing results.[2][5] Avrakotos was re-assigned "just as the Stinger antiaircraft missile launchers downed the first Soviet gunships" and after a brief role in an African assignment, he retired from the CIA in 1989.[1] Gust's predictions about Iran-Contra were accurate, as the Iran-Contra affair resulted in numerous prosecutions of government officials and years of congressional hearings and controversy.

Avrakotos then worked for TRW in Rome and for News Corp., for which he began a business intelligence newsletter, working in Rome and McLean, Virginia. He returned to the CIA as a contractor from 1997 until 2003."

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cool. thx.



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I think the movie is balanced nicely as it is. Wilson ended up as the money man working the machinery of government to achieve the desired outcomes. Doubtful though whether he would have succeeded without the expertise of Avrakotos to open doors and push him in the right direction. Both Hoffman and Hanks created memorably eccentric and highly amusing characters in virtuoso performances.

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Agree.
but, does anyone know the name or character-name of the typist/clerk who gives him the thumbs-up after he smashes the window? I would like to add that little incident to the quotes section.

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nope. gust rules, tho! 



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