I really liked the movie. However, one thing kind of ruined it:
How did he manage NOT to lose 5-6 people in a big jungle?
I mean, how hard could it be? Just run left, right, down, up, left, more left, a little right, then back etc.
How is it possible that the guys chasing him always found out which way he was running?
I've probably only been to the forest once or twice in my life but give me a 60 second head start and I'd lose them 10 times out of 10.
Tracking is real. It is an art and a science, and people who are good at it can seem to be doing something impossible to people who aren't familiar.
I'm not pretending I know anything about it, I'm just pretty darn sure that rain forest is good terrain for man-tracking, and people who live their lives doing that stuff get really good at it.
"Morbius, something is approaching from the southwest. It is now quite close."
I can understand that it's possible to track someone who is unaware that they're being tracked. Like tracking a group of illegal berry pickers who pretty much walked a straight line in a forest.
But if you KNOW that you have people after you...I can't see how it would be hard to lose them.
For example: As soon as he ran out in the fields, instead of running straight to that big hole with all the dead bodies, why not make a 45 degree turn and run in a completely different direction?
Also, you could see him later on setting traps for them. Couldn't he have set fake traps earlier, confusing them as to where he was going?
He did lose them for a bit when he was up in the trees, had he not been bleeding they never would have figured out where to look.
As for tracking, that's their thing, they track for food, the track to hunt people. It doesn't take a whole lot, footprints, broken twigs, the sounds of something running through the dense forest ect. They know what they're looking for, they're going to find him even if they have to break up (which they did later in the chase).
Setting fake traps would have taken a lot more time than he had. The man was running for his life and to get back to his young family, his wife was pregnant and he didn't know how they were doing in that hole. Once he got to his hunting area that's when he set the traps up, they were already there, just weren't set.
If you release a native who lived all his life in a jungle in the middle of Manhattan he ALSO will get lost.
You will call him "stupid" for not reading all the signs to warn him about his position.
I doubt he will call you stupid for not knowing all the signs you have to read in a jungle in order to orient yourself.
Sun, stars, wind, ground, flora and fauna, rivers and its current. ALL serves to orient yourself.
The fact you don't know them doesn't make it a plot hole. Plot hole is a disconnection between the plot (like having a car without gas moving to another town)
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Jesus... Calm down. It's going to be OK.
Medication time???
Wow, you're pretty thick.
A. Not a plot hole, either way.
B. They trained themselves to track animals through jungles. This is probably something they do every day to survive and if they're not good at it they don't survive. Tracking a human would be no different, except the human would be better at some elements, like cunning and worse at other elements, like speed.
C. They could have lost them if they were good trackers, but apparently they were.
duh.
btw, and pay attention here, before he gets to the waterfall there is a shot from above showing him running, HE TAKES A LEFT TURN. Did you get that? He turned just as you requested, about 45 degrees. The other Indians/hunters/trackers did the same. We see them all (from above) make the turn.
Maybe he should have ran faster, huh?
Well I just don't believe that it's possible to track someone that well. Even if they had been tracking animals and people all their lives, I just don't see that it's possible.
shareThen keep not believing, but it's been explained several times that it's eminently practical (and so much so no one else has a problem with it), so keep it to yourself.
share"I've probably only been to the forest once or twice in my life but give me a 60 second head start and I'd lose them 10 times out of 10."
That statement tells all. You have no personal knowledge of jungle lore and the acumen that people who live in the jungle all their lives develop, having yourself only stepped away from the nearest Starbucks twice in your life, but at the same time you refuse to believe there is any such thing! Sorry kid, you wouldn't lose anyone in the jungle and your head would be bouncing down the stone steps that very day.
Did you miss Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? It was the tracker that freaked Sundance out the most. The RR hired a guy that had special skills... Check it out--it's great!
Native Americans and trackers, trappers, mountain men, soldiers, and hunters learned to read the forest from their first steps...they knew every mark each species made and how to recognize a being's weaknesses--injuries, age, illness, exhaustion.... As someone said, it6's stuff like bent twigs, crushed leaves, footprints. I'm sure there are plenty of books on the suject--I've checked footprints numerous times online because they appear in my yard in the snow--it's fascinating.
I think you are overlooking the fact this guy has not eaten or drank fluids for several days, was forced to hike with that rod over his neck in a painful contortion, saw his friends and family killed viciously, lost his home and his own family, has been brutally assaulted repeatedly--can you imagine the weakness and heartbreak? His thinking must be as affected as his body. We can't forget he had blue paint all over him that spread everywhere he went. Then, there's the matter of the spear right through his torso near his liver and kidney. Dripping blood, with the blue paint... Infection, blood loss, and pain...it's actually more of a shock he got away!
If he had the time--was not weaker than his pursuers--he'd have had the time to create false tracks and more traps. But under the circumstances, it's a miracle he survived. There was a whole team chasing him--ad they started out healthy, rested, fed and hydrated.
"I've probably only been to the forest once or twice in my life but give me a 60 second head start and I'd lose them 10 times out of 10." You'd be found in under a minute by people who had spent their lives there. I haven't spent a life time in the forest and am not an expert tracker, I have spent days at a time in deep wilderness, a few times over week. I could give much more than 60 seconds, mebbee 60 minutes, I'd find you within a day probably much less, especially if you were running. And even easier if you were trying that right, left, right, right, duck, left back stuff. Do you realize how noisythat is. Heres a question or two for you, which way does a blade of grass bend when you step on, how long does it take to spring back, same answer when walking as when running? What are the alarm calls of any species of bird what are the all clear calls?
shareThat is NOT what constitutes a plothole. Just so you know.
shareSimple: "I am Jaguar Paw. This is my forest." Not just because he was familiar with territory.
shareWhen you run through dense jungle at full speed you are leaving plenty of traces. Footprints, broken branches, bent plants, small areas of plants pushed to the side, dirt, blood, etc .... Yes, he could easily lose you or me, but thats not who is following him. Those guys following him have been living in the jungle and tracking animals and humans for most of their lives.
shareYou failing to understand something doesn't make it a plot hole.
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