9 was a douche


All i was thinking about during the films was what a *beep* douche 9 was. He got five of them killed for no good reson at all and at the end he was threated like a hero? That was just retarded. At least 1 keeps them safe untill 9 came and *beep* everything up.

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Oh snap!

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He also returned life to a desolate world and destroyed the leader/creator of the robot army, but continue on disliking him...

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7 destroyed the robot army earlier in the movie when she killed the beast, which was said was the last active robot. Then 9 went and reactivated it causing a ton of problems that ended up killing 5 of them.

And then their 5 9ths of a soul somehow made it rain, and in those raindrops a hint at some form of life... So if it takes 5/9ths of a soul to somehow restore life to the planet, there might have been another way. If, instead of activating the machine, they just took the disk back with them and studied it, they may have found a way to use it to restore life to the planet WITHOUT killing 5 of them.

2 seemed like he knew what he was doing, and knew what the disk was, so maybe if 9 didn't activate the machine, 2 could have figured out how to use the disk to restore life without killing any of them. On another note, is it really a good thing for them that they restored life to the planet? It's not like they need to eat or anything to survive, so they don't need other life to sustain their life and as far as we know, the new life on the planet might end up killing the 4 remaining living dolls. So instead of the 9 of them living in a robot-free, threat-free world, he may have just allowed the creation of a new race that will wipe them out.

Really, I think 9 is just more of an idiot than a douche.

I mean, come on, the beast was trying to reactivate whatever that thing was with the little disk... and then as soon as he gets his little claws on it he decides to do exactly that?

I'm pretty sure their goals and the beast's goals aren't the same, so why would you want to do something that the beast was trying to do?

So, basically. You say 9 should have been treated like a hero because he defeated the leader/creator of the robot army (which he activated, if he didn't, the robot army would be just as dead as it already was) and because he restored life back to the planet (which may have been possible with less, or possibly even no deaths of the rag dolls if 2 had a chance to study the disk and the scientist's notes/videos, or the 9 of them could have lived happily together on their own)

Yeah, Hooray for 9! At least you didn't kill the other 3 of them! Good job

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Spot on. It was painful to see 2 saved him twice.

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and because he restored life back to the planet (which may have been possible with less, or possibly even no deaths of the rag dolls if 2 had a chance to study the disk and the scientist's notes/videos, or the 9 of them could have lived happily together on their own)


This is a fictional world: No possibility exists without the blessing of the writers. I got the distinct impression that the life organisms in the rain were directly linked to the released souls, which suggests that had the 9 dolls just followed 1's directive and remain in hiding, organic life would never have had a chance to return.

I wouldn't say that 9 was an idiot. he was new to the world, and didn't have all the information. He knew that he was somehow linked to the talisman, and that the talisman seemed to have a purpose. He had no way of knowing that inserting it into the slot that was designed for it would bring about the consequences it did - for all he knew, he was doing what he was supposed to.

If there is a flaw there, it's in the actions of the scientist. If what he wants to do is destroy the machine, then it wouldn't make any sense to provide the talisman to his last creation with only a cryptic explanation as to it's workings. But then, consider that the machine may still have been active when the scientist was still alive - the talisman would then be the only way to de-power it. If his intention is to re-introduce life into the world, then the sacrifice of at least some of the number dolls is necessary - but then if he didn;t plan on the master machine awakening, what was it that he had in mind for 9 to do? suck the souls from the others himself and then release them?

For myself, I find the timing of the story to be a little skewed. When 9 awakes, it feels as if the war is long over - most of the machines have stopped working, and the numbered dolls have been in hiding for who knows how long. And yet, the scientist has not yet decomposed (similarly with the corpses of the mother and child in the car)... it makes me wonder about how the events really unfolded... did the scientist survive much longer than the other humans? Why did the machines just stop working, and how did the master machine go dormant? Did it always function on humans souls - and if so, how did it lose the talisman in the first place?

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For myself, I find the timing of the story to be a little skewed. When 9 awakes, it feels as if the war is long over - most of the machines have stopped working, and the numbered dolls have been in hiding for who knows how long. And yet, the scientist has not yet decomposed (similarly with the corpses of the mother and child in the car)... it makes me wonder about how the events really unfolded... did the scientist survive much longer than the other humans? Why did the machines just stop working, and how did the master machine go dormant? Did it always function on humans souls - and if so, how did it lose the talisman in the first place?

My take on this is that some time must have passed before 9 activated.
During the machine`s attack on the capital city The Scientist`s last act was to activate 9 but he died in the attempt and it didn`t work. The machines went on to wipe out every living thing then began to shut down, their function completed.
The master machine however knew that it needed something more to continue to exist, a "soul" if you like and to gain that it needed to be reconnected to The Talisman. It then created "The Beast" to search through the ruins to find it before shutting down itself.
Since ALL life down to the microscopic level had been destroyed there was little decomposition of the bodies which just mummified. So it could be that some years have passed before a random gust of wind moved 9, broke the thread holding him and caused him to fall. The resulting jolt then caused him to finally activate.

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wrong in reality they died before the movie even opened because ultimately they are just 9 different constructed personalities of the old man. he created them as a means to rebuild life in the manner they did as in they had to die for life to be reborn on earth this movie was about life death and rebirth

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totally agree. but easily explanable:
a full-soul scientist may be a genius, but 1-ninth-soul is a douche.

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Now that I think about it, isn't that kind of behaviour very common in fantasy/sci-fi movies?

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Indeed. Nick Van Owen in The Lost World: Jurassic Park is basically responsible for every death in the movie.

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Makes a change then your typical super hero does no wrong character your used to seeing isn't it? Hears one with flaws, makes mistakes, still learning.. great stuff if you ask me.

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Characterizing him as 'a douche' says more about you than him.


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All i was thinking about during the films was what a *beep* douche 9 was. He got five of them killed for no good reson at all and at the end he was threated like a hero?


It's a case of curiosity killed the cat. And if you're going to classify him as a douche, then you have to classify every character from every movie that indirectly causes a catastrophe or villa to rise either by accident or curiosity as a douche. Every see "The Mummy"? The female lead read from a book and accidentally raised the mummy would killed a bunch of people. Was she a douche? Or how about the movie "I Am Legend". A doctor created a cure for cancer that actually worked, but much later the cure began having side affects that turned it into a massive plague. Was the doctor a douche? 9 was just curious and ignorant, not much different from a child wondering "what does this button do?"

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They should rename it Nice Job Breaking It, Hero - The Movie

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