Casual strolling


Why are they casually strolling about at the start of the movie? Didn't they feel any sense of urgency? A plane has crashed into a building and they are acting like they are on their way to the scene of a fender bender. Redonkulous.


Oh, it's blessed are the MEEK! Oh, I'm glad they're getting something, they have a hell of a time.

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I noticed this myself with Nicolas and his Crew when they entered The Trade Center. I said, "They aren't moving very quick."

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Maybe amidst the confusion you do not want rush into things like headless chickens.

Its that man again!!

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It seems pretty obvious that they aren't in any hurry; whether it is because of caution or something else is hard to tell. At one point Cage is even doing a type of side-saunter and looks like John Wayne. All I kept thinking about their strolling was that they were trying to draw the scene out in order to give them time for dialogue before the building collapses.

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Look, I have no training or even basic knowledge about te job of an emergency responder, a firefighter, a paramedic or a cop, but even I know that rushing things up or running everywhere isn't a good idea on an emergency situation. What's the point? Just so you look busy in case somebody someday wants to shoot a movie about your ordeal?

It makes sense to me that people trained to deal with such unpredictable situations would approach dangerous areas with extreme caution, taking the time to get acquainted with their surroundings, escape routes, etc. After all, you're there to save people, not to become another casualty or require yourself to be saved, just because you wanted to "look" brave.

In this case, their behavior clearly paid off, since if had they ran instead of "casually stroll", they would be far away from the elevator shaft which, as McLoughlin said, was the strongest part of the building.

C'mon guys, it's common sense. Have that in mind in case, knock on wood, anything ever happens to you. Keep your cool, don't go running around collapsing floors or roofs.

By the way, if you wanted to point to somebody who clearly wasted a little bit of time, look no further than the priest/marine. I don't know if commie Oliver Stone put it there or if it actually happened, but even after receiving a direct call from god the guy still went for a shave before heading to the buildings. I was also appalled to see apparently he was the only one (or one of few) who disobeyed orders to suspend searches overnight. I wonder if more people could have been saved if they just kept looking nonstop. But that's easy for me to say, it's clear that everybody out there made the best they could. If only that good spirit and the focus on helping each other had lasted longer than a month, instead of turning into hatred and revenge.

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Yeah let's just rush into a situation with no knowledge of what they'll face. I wouldn't want you in command of anything

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Watch the movie on DVD with the audio commentary by Oliver Stone or the one with the real Will Jimeno, Scott Strauss, John Busching and Paddy McGee. They talk about that. People were indeed moving slowly.

It's not just the movie, that was the case on 9/11.


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As a Paramedic, the first three things we were taught in training were:
1. Look for danger.
2. Watch your partners back.
3. Chew a piece of gum, take a sip of a drink, and compose yourself before entering ANY scene (It goes without saying to do this fast).

When you arrive at a scene, the adrenaline is pumping, people are in a panic, and you're no help to anyone if you can't keep calm and in control yourself.

Of course there was a sense of urgency, but they were also assessing the scene and coming up with a game plan. The best thing you can do in an emergency situation is stay calm and appear in control (even if you don't feel it).

"Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose."

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I don't think you realize the monumental challenge it was to climb thousands of stairs and put out fires on the 78th-95th floors. They're not going to rush full speed into the buildings, because they have to carry all that equipment and then climb stairs.

In real life, not the movie, firefighters did make it to the fire, and say on radio they will need two lines to knock it down. The South Tower imploded shortly thereafter.

The attack he expected had come and the building he spoke of was the South Tower of the World Trade Center. Bucca hung up the phone and started up the stairway with fellow fire marshal John Devery. The other marshal stopped to assist a woman who had blood streaming down her side. Bucca kept on and became the only firefighter that day to climb all the way to the Sky Lobby on the 78th floor.

Up in the tower, Bucca was joined by Battalion Chief Orio Palmer, who had managed to get a freight elevator to bring him part way. They began assisting whomever they could and made plans to fight this blaze on high.

“We’ve got two isolated pockets of fire,” Palmer radioed at 9:52 a.m. “We should be able to knock it down with two lines.”

Palmer used radio code to report that many of the civilian victims were beyond saving.

“78th floor, numerous 10-45s, Code One,” he said.

A civilian named Richard Gabrielle was trapped under a pile of marble, but alive during those last minutes. His wife would later be quoted expressing gratitude for the presence of those most determined of firefighters.

“The fact that Rich, still alive, was not alone—at least he knew there was help, and thought that they were getting out,” Monica Gabrielle said.

At 9:58:59 a.m., the South Tower collapsed. Bucca must have placed his turnout coat protectively around several civilians, for it was later found still wrapped around them. His remains were recovered on Oct. 23, 2001. He was 47 and he had served his country and his city for three decades.

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