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I don't think the Joker was planning to blow up the boats


I mean midnight came, and instead of blowing them up, he told was about to tell a scar story. I don't think he ever intended to blow up the two boats. What do you think? But I want serious answers. Please I want serious answers.

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The boats were fine. The champagne dealer from the Harvey Dent gala followed his goons and defused the bombs earlier.

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Jimmy, please take it easy on poor George.

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Curious George needs to understand fiction and storytelling Fred.

If Shutter Island can have multiple theories and Donny Darko sparked many ideas as to its meaning then I can see Bruce Wayne's private sommelier having an edgy back story too!

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You make a good case for edginess, Jimmy. It reminds me of the rarely-discussed deleted scene where Bruce walks out of his study sweating and wearing no pants, with several monitors displaying hidden camera footage of Rachel. He gestures at the mess behind him and says to Alfred, "Clean that up, old friend," to which Alfred replies: "Nevah."

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Also that scene when Alfred was talking about rubies the size of tangerines was massively edited from its original take Fred.

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*Alfred making elaborate hand gestures*
"You don't understand, Master Bruce. It was all up in there!"
"I get it, Alfred. I get it."

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I think he was. To him it was no big deal to take a life so why not just a story while you wait.

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Of course the joker was going to blow up the boats, killing another couple hundred people was nothing to him. The fact that he was late on the deadline is within his character, he says he’s a man of his word but everything about him demonstrates that he’s not

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So that's why he pinned batman under the scaffolding. Is that correct? So the Joker was pure evil. Correct?

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Uh yeah, it makes sense that he wanted Batman to watch him as he blew up both boats. He was probably going to tell his scar story (probably a different one from the previous ones he told), then blow the boats up then kill Batman.

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No he wouldn't kill Batman, he said you are just too much fun. He said what would I do with out you. He probably wanted Batman to be alive and corrupted just like he corrupted Harvey Dent.

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OK what he planned to do with Batman is debatable but after the truck flip he was about to kill Batman which is where I got that idea from.

How would he escape that situation if he left Batman alive? Did he really need Batman to be corrupted since Dent already was?

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I think its too reductive to label him as evil. He's an anarchist pointing out the hypocrisy of selective moral outrage. So I would say I agree with what he had to say about that and people in power on a philosophical level. Of course on a practical level, I wouldn't endorse his methods. But nothing he did was ever personal. I mean he only ever killed people in order to make an example of that hypocrisy. So evil? I wouldn't go that far. I would call him more of a terrorist. In a lot of ways, he's a lot like Ra's Al Ghul. Only what he did was not for the greater good. And he was much more anarchistic/disorganized in his approach.

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