Ruth Ellis smiling
Did she really smile like that before he hung her? It was an odd, beatific sort of smile. As if she were some saintly martyr and she was forgiving him for hanging her.
shareDid she really smile like that before he hung her? It was an odd, beatific sort of smile. As if she were some saintly martyr and she was forgiving him for hanging her.
sharePierrepoint has stated Ruth Ellis was the bravest person he hung. However, according to some pieces I have read, such was his mis-calculation with her slender weight, the drop he gave her was enough to seperate her vertabrae, almost causing decapitation.
I have also read that Ruth Ellis's final moments were exaggerated so the British public could relate to the fact that she was in some way, a heroine on her way to the noose
The whole idea of this type of hanging is indeed to seperate the vertabrae, enough to cause instant death but not enough to decapitate. Ellis would have required a very long drop becuase of her light weight.
Yo can read her official autopsy report here -
http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/pmortem.html
The body of the condemed person was always left hanging for one hour to ensure that the heart had stopped beating fully, then an autopsy was immediately carried out.
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Judicial hanging is to cause the dislocation of spinal cord and FRACTURE of C2 and C3 vertabrae causing instant death. Mr Pierrepoint suceeded in DISLOCATING the C2 and C3 vertabrae.
Even so, Ms Ellis wouldn't have known much about it.
You are quite correct about being left to hang for an hour. By all accounts, the body would 'grow' a few inches due to the stretching of the neck
Ruth elliis accepted the sentence. She had no wish to die in prison. She told her arresting officer that all that remained was for her to be hanged.
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I don't agree with the death penalty at all- never have done, but in those days that was what happened and just the way it was- how she could have been seen as any type of martyr i don't know - She killed him and she paid the price. I know that she was very accepting of the verdict and even wrote to her victims parents from jail to say sorry and that she hoped that her death would be seen as some sort of comfort to them.
The Ruth Ellis thing has been in the papers over here recently as they are now saying that it may not have been her who fired the gun.
Would love to hear what anyones thoughts on that are .
Well it's only the beginning baby L.A. in the summer anything could happen right?
There is an interesting, if rather bizarre, book about Ruth Ellis by her sister, Muriel Jakubait, entitled "Ruth Ellis - My Sister's Secret Life" (Robinson, London, 2005).
This advances a somewhat complex conspiracy theory involving the British establishment and the secret service (including a connection with Stephen Ward, the man at the centre of the later Profumo scandal).
It also maintains that according to Ruth Ellis's uncle, Granville Hornby (who had to identify her body after execution), she was horribly disfigured by the hanging. This rings true.
Under the British system were relatives EVER asked to identify the body after execution? I don't believe this. Immediately after post-mortem examination, the executed were buried in a lime pit within the prison, as definitely happened with Ellis.
shareEllis had had a miscarriage only 10 days before shooting Blakely, at whose hands she had suffered repeated beatings - one of which may have been responsible for her miscarriage. She might not have been a martyr but today (when battered women's syndrome is recognised) she would no doubt be convicted of manslaughter rather than murder.
I hadn't heard the theory that she didn't pull the trigger before, but it seems to be the case that Desmond Cussen provided a loaded gun and drove her to the scene so should have been regarded as an accessory at least.
Several people saw Ellis shoot Blakeley, who was a total b8stard - She was a good looking woman, London was full of eligible men just after the war, she had options, she should have walked away, not shot him. She had her daughter to think of after all.
George... don't do that!
Blakely had it coming in my view.
shareNo he didn't say that she was the bravest person he ever HANGED. He said that she was as brave as any man, he said the bravest person he ever hanged was John Amery, who when A.P entered the cell supposedly said "Mr Pierrepoint, I've always wanted to meet you. Though not, of course, under these circumstances!". People who post should really get the facts right first.
shareI once heard a Radio 4 interview with Ruth Ellis's daughter - she giggled inanely throughout the entire thing, it was most off putting.
About Ruth Ellis - there really wasn't much else the jury could do but find her guilty- she shot the guy in public in front of witnesses, in cold blood, even though she was not married to him and he had made her no promises at all, and she had made all the running in the affair, and even though she knew that her daughter would be alone and helpless once the trial, etc, had run it's course.
She was guilty, and that was it and all about it. At least they didn't find out when it was too late that she hadn't done it, unlike Timothy Evans who got hanged for the murder of his wife and child, when John Christie had done it all the time. Of course they hanged Christie too once they had caught up with him, and pardoned Evans posthumously, but it's a bit bloody late at that time, isn't it??
George... don't do that!
In response to the public outcry the Homicide Act 1956 was introduced the following year to limit the types of murder that would incur the death penalty. Even under this she still would have hanged as she used a firearm.
BTW in 1956 there were no executions in the UK. Whether it was due to Pierrepoints retirement or the Ruth Eliis case, I dont know.
It was because of the 1956 Royal Commission on capital punishment (which eventually produced the 1957 Homicide Act which, as stated in the previous post, limited the categories of capital murder).
It's also true (as stated by the previous poster) that Ruth Ellis's crime would still have come under the purview of capital murder, even after the 1957 Act came into force. She deliberately waived her appeals, however, in what is clearly a case of state-assisted suicide.
American (and other non-British) readers should note that the death sentence was mandatory for murder in Britain until 1957; the were no categories or degrees of murder there. (In practice pleas of diminished responsibility and insanity, and the use of the Royal Prerogative, limited the number of actual executions.)
Pierrepoint had no regrets about her execution..." She deserved no less ", he said.
She should have been reprieved.
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