Uniform Question


Just a historical detail I'd like to ask, does anybody know whether the soldiers/police or whatever they're officially classed as were "Black and Tans" or "Auxies"?

Its just that I remember reading that the black and tans were called that because they wore a mixture of british army and irish police uniform but it was the Auxiliaries who had the tam-o-shanter type hats that they wore.

I'm just kind of confused, was there no real difference between the two or had Ken Loach confused the two?

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The two what? Black and tans was a nickname for the Royal Irish Constabulary Auxilary force. They were the force.

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No I'm pretty sure that the Auxies were different - unless the Auxies were another part of the black and tans I'm not sure, most books and articles I've read are pretty vague on that.

The black and tans wore police caps I know that. The Auxies wore tam-o-shanters and while the black and tans were undisciplined and committed atrocities, the Auxiliaries were much worse and disliked by the Royal Irish Constabulary who considered them to be rough.

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Black and Tans = temporary constables (mainly British WWI vets) of the Royal Irish Constabulary.

Auxies = Auxiliary Division of the Royal Irish Constabulary. They were paramilitary.

Hope this helps. :-)

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Thanks very much! sure has!

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Thanks very much! sure has!

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British Soldiers played a minor supporting role in the 1919-21 period.
Martial Law was not always used and where it was it was limited. They concept of martial law in the UK is/was perceived as a failure of UK society, which is not the same as the failure in a colonial context. Ireland was NOT a colony.
In fact it was used in the part of Ireland covered by this film. General Pecival in command in Cork, later surrendered to the Japanese in Singapore in 1942.
The British army uniform is well documented and not amended in any way in Ireland.

The Black and Tans wore a combination of Police Navy Blue and Khaki green. Trousers and Tunics were always reversed. Apparently to save cost on uniforms and to use up the existing stocks. They wore a Tam O'Shanter type beret. In fact a type of beret favored by an Irish born officer serving in Ireland at the time called Field Marshal Montgomery.
They were dubbed the "Black & Tans" after a pack of hunting hounds in Tipperary as a derogatory term.

Auxiliary uniforms were usually British Army Officer type as they were a "special force" recruited from the demobbed WW1 officer corps. One of the early "Elites" in fact. The ambush in the film replicates an event in west Cork where 18 Auxies were taken down by Tom Barry. Cork city was burned down by the "Tans" after that one.

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thanks michael-hughes-3, this has been very informative!

Yeah I read about the Tom Barry confrontation, I think it was the Kilmichael ambush?

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Thanks from here too. Also to the OPr for asking.
Though I've read some of Ireland's history, I've not yet come across these details, until now, and it helped me better understand the film.




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The Kilmichael Ambush it was indeed, glad to hear ye know your Irish history. So very few do today.

"Molon Labe."

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Yeah, Irish history is pretty interesting I have to say!

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