I can't help but feel now they can make ammo for the Colt it has kind of lost it's specialness. I appreciate they have only just got it back after being MIA for ages but still. Need to kill a god? No problem, just pop it with the Colt. The MOL will be getting it back soon I reckon. It's just too powerful.
shareYeah, the Colt has to go . . . again. The only way around it making everything too easy if they don't get rid of it is to delve more into the 5 things it can't kill, but what about everything else they come up against in the meantime? If anyone can get a shot on Dagon, we know it'll work on her. It killed the Alpha vamp. It kills gods. Unless it falls out of the Winchesters' hands every episode, there's no suspense there. On the other hand, it would make traveling a lot lighter for them. No need for the arsenal in the trunk if all they need is the Colt for everything except Lucifer, and apparently now a magic egg is all they need for him. :)
shareAaaand it's gone.
shareI know, and I can believe how annoyed by that I am considering what I wrote in this post!
shareI think it's what they did to the Colt before they killed it that annoys me the most. Plus, it was taken out by a poor knockoff of Azazel.
shareThat's actually a poetic revenge in a way.
Dagon fried the weapon that killed her brother. She's a good sister this one. Respect lol.
Yeah, too bad she wasn't around to help Azazel back then. She could've just zapped Dean and John into clouds of ash for getting in the way of Azazel's plans for Sam.
shareI was sorry to see the Colt gone. I think they do need it because the Demon Knife and the Angle Blade are no match for who they are going to battle with. And now that Dean no longer has the Mark the First Blade is useless. I'm pretty sure they've checked all items that are in bunker and nothing there can be of any help or they would have we have such and such item to use. There may be a weapon the BMOL might have but can't say for sure that's a possibility.
shareMaybe while Sam is fixing the Colt Dean will be fixing Michaels Lance. That weapon seemed to work pretty well.
shareI completely forgot about The Lance. I wonder if it has to be whole for it to be used. They kind of kept that quiet but we did see Dean pick up the two pieces and carry them off. Hummmmm
shareIn both cases they will need a spell I would think. Especially the lance. Rowena and the Black Grimoire?
shareI'd love to see that, provided Dean gets to use the Lance of Michael, seeing as he is the True Vessel and all that :D
shareSo Dean Lance's Lucifer and Sam shoots...Cas?
shareWhy would Sam shoot Castiel?
shareBecause the Colt can't really kill anyone else that would matter. IDK, it just seems fixing the Colt isn't going to help them much (other than run of the mill demons and werewolves and such). The only person it would work on is Cas if he needs to be stopped for whatever reason.
shareI don't know where the writers are going with the Colt but I'm having a hard time picturing Sam shooting Castiel. There are 5 things the Colt can't kill and I don't know if Lucifer's half human baby is one of them. With these writers, who knows? They turned Lucifer into the older brother so all bets are off!
shareThat's true. Maybe someone should suggest Superwiki...and there will be a test!
shareIf they can't even remember the entire premise of season 5, i.e. that Dean lined up with Michael as the older brother and Sam lined up with Lucifer as the younger brother, then I'm thinking they won't remember one little line that said there were 5 things the Colt couldn't kill, but what it can't kill will be moot if they don't revive the Colt.
I'm guessing that witches will have a part to play in reviving it if it is going to be revived, and if that's the case, then what was the point of Dagon destroying it if they were only going to fix it in the next episode? Everything that happens or appears in a story should have a reason. Maybe that reason is that if the Colt is fixed, the lance can be fixed too.
I get what you are saying but I can understand though why it came out almost everytime when the Winchesters had it.
I get it is a boss killing weapon, it is supernatural's version of the sword on the Jaeger, it is the hulkbuster armour and it isn't the first blade needing a symbiotic mark or its use causing some problem in the user.
So cheapening it or not, audiences have gotten to the point where when they see weapons or equipment like that being introduced in stories and there is a contingent asking if you have a weapon like that and there is no kickback to the user or any real unintended collateral damage when compared to other weapons (ie the grenade launcher they've never let Dean use) why the hell isn't that weapon being used for every single kill.
So it is kind of a logic fail not to see it being used for all the time when the brothers have it because it is a tool that makes their lives easier - how can they guarantee it wouldn't be helpful. Their research isn't always 100% correct about what they are going into.
But at least Dabb and co are also showing that there will be vulnerabilities in using it all the time - like always having it around means the enemy could get their hands on it and destroy it (ie Dagon) or other parties will covet it or try and steal it for their own purposes. (ie BMoL and even Cas).
Something the writers who never explained why the sword in Pacific Rim, the hulkbuster armour for Iron man and the time turner in Harry Potter weren't the first things that heroes reached for in those stories.
That goes all the way back to Godzilla and Voltron. They always had long drawn out battles that ended with them using their breath or sword which could have killed the monsters to begin with.
Supernatural has that with the angel blades. They are everywhere, they kill most anything and they can be fashioned into bullets (Crowley's pistol). They just never use them for anything besides Angels and Demons.
Very true. The blades are powerful and on the same level as the gun. I think in some ways they could've made it where the gun couldn't take out real higher ups like Crowley, Lucifer and death.
Another idea is the bullets are special and once they run out no more retries.
Oh yeah they always had the deus ex machina factor. The thing is audiences are getting less tolerant of them in a sense 'whipping' it out just for the wow factor and writers are noticing.
Look at Captain America: Civil War. The exchange at the airport between Spidey and Cap. Cap asks what did Stark tell him and Spidey's response included 'Go for the legs' An actual criticism on youtube cinemasins in their Captain America Winter Soldier episode when Cap stood upright behind his Shield and the bad guys just shot hundreds of bullets at his shield. Now you could ask do they watch a youtube channel - but it like other channels and various forums have millions of subscribers who are now on record about their views of when writers do things like that.
With the angel blades the only criticism is that the brothers seem to have a finite number on them and once melted down to bullets they are gone. Which is fair enough, it makes using the blades as bullets a finite resource like the bullets in the colt use to be. But agree if they are going into anywhere that they may need to fight and could hide a big blade they should carry and angel knife.