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SeaCon 2017 - *Potential Spoilers*


There was a convention this weekend, so I thought I'd start a thread for anyone who wanted to put up anything interesting they'd seen or heard about it. I'll go first.

Potential spoiler about the finale: Tweet About Mark P.'s Panel





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https://www.stageit.com/jensen_ackles_and_jared_padalecki/q_a_panel_webcast_with_actor_jared_padalecki_sam_and_jensen_ackles_dean_from_the_official_supernatural_convention_seattle/60423

Apparently you can watch today's J2 main panel at this link for $10 US. Being offered by Creation.

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I watched the live stream and the picture was great but the sound wasn't. Jared didn't hold his mike close enough to his mouth so he was very hard to hear. Jensen being a singer kept his mike close so he came in very clear. The crowd didn't have a lot of energy so the Js didn't have a lot to play off of. It was pretty low key. There was one part that was LOL hopefully there will be fan videos later.

Yeah this part...

https://twitter.com/FangasmSPN/status/851211246934269952

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J2 Gold Panel SeaCon 2017

Source: sammyhale

Jared pets Jensen’s back and says it’s just an excuse to touch him :)
J2 have done something for s13 already.
Jensen’s alter ego is Nesnej. Jensen backwards. When Jensen has too much whiskey lol.
Jensen: Meg and Demon!Dean would have either hated each other or had a great time together. Said it could’ve been like War of the Roses.
Jared does a rim shot on the drums after telling a joke, Jensen: You can’t rim shot your own jokes!! Jared: Yes I can :P
Jared: Thanks for all the congrats and love.
When someone asks what it’s like to play Dean, mannerisms, etc. Jensen: Here’s 12 years of DVD’s, have fun lol. Gives praise to Dylan and Colin.
Jensen showed Brock what Dean would act like if someone scratched his car and he almost hurt Brock (was choking him lol).
Jared: Sam always tries to do the right thing.
J2 talk about their bar and brewery.
J2 explaining why they couldn’t do the FBBC brewery together. Jared: Can’t own a bar, brewery, and a winery. Monopoly in Texas law but they’re working on it. Because Jared owns San Jac Saloon: That’s why I couldn’t do that with him. (His bar is allowed to sell the beer, though).
Jensen says that FBBC will say regional for a little while and hopefully can distribute.
Jensen talks about his fear of green beans and chia seeds. Tells the story as to why he hates them. Had a traumatic experience with green beans as a kid, his mom didn’t let him leave the table until he ate them and he threw up.
Jensen is cracking Jared up.
J2 talk about the juice cleanse they were on the week they shot the episode with Kathryn Newton. Some of it did not go well.
Question about Sam’s scar on his hand that Dean taught him to control his hallucinations.
Talking about bowling with JJ from Kaleo last night. Their bowling names: Jared - awesome, Jensen - bowlegs, JJ - Iceland, bodyguards - baldy 1 and 2 lol!
Fan: What fanfic do you read? Jensen: Nope.
Jensen is 100% absolutely sure he does not read fanfic. Neither does Jared. Jared: but you do your thing. Jensen: Whatever floats your boat.
Jensen is slated to direct again next season!
Jensen to Jared: You love it when I direct. I see how many days I can get Jared off…
For s13, they added more personal touches to the bunker. Spoiler: it might be a lazy boy and a flat screen :P
Body swap question: Jared would swap with Ruth. Praise for Ruth.
Jensen wouldn’t mind body-swapping with Lucifer. Praise for Pellegrino.
Jared does his impersonation of what it would look like if he body-swapped with Jensen lol.

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Thanks for all of that!

Uhh . . . Could you imagine if they read some of the fanfic that's out there, especially the fanfic that's about them as opposed to Sam and Dean?

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Oh, they've been aware of it for so long. Jensen even gifted Jared with a cell phone cover depicting Wincest art.

Jared: “There’s this phonecase that Jensen bought of um… Sam and Dean…In a compromising position. He did it as a joke. It was my birthday yesterday he did it as a birthday present for me this week. He put on the back of the phone and like, was like ‘Hey man, someone texted you.’”
Src:Aisha Tyler interviews Jared Padalecki

I do wish the fans would stop asking about fanfic and ships during cons though. It usually doesn't end well.

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"Oh, they've been aware of it for so long. Jensen even gifted Jared with a cell phone cover depicting Wincest art."

Thanks for the link. I know they're aware of Wincest and Destiel. I meant the tin hatter stuff that's about them as opposed to their characters, which I'm sure they would inevitably find if they started down the fanfic rabbit hole.

"I do wish the fans would stop asking about fanfic and ships during cons though. It usually doesn't end well."

Even if the person's intent was to know if they'd read any hunting only fanfic (I'm giving the person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the person wanted to know if they'd seen the similarities in an episode to a specific fanfic), most people's minds go other places when fanfic is mentioned, and that automatically makes the situation awkward.

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"Thanks for the link. I know they're aware of Wincest and Destiel. I meant the tin hatter stuff that's about them as opposed to their characters, which I'm sure they would inevitably find if they started down the fanfic rabbit hole."

They're aware of that too. They've addressed it in one of the Fangasm books and at cons. Unfortunately, I don't have any links for those. Too many darn cons lol.

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"They're aware of that too."

I'm sure they are. They both know how to use the internet, and all they'd have to do is google their names and look far enough back through the pages to find it, but knowing that some people fantasize about you is totally different than knowing what some fantasize about you in graphic detail. Maybe the person who asked the question wanted to bond with them over a mutual liking for fanfic and was hoping they read fanfic of other TV shows to build that link with them, but I'm sure that's not where the conversation was going. Maybe the person had written some fanfic and was hoping J2 had seen it, so they could have it turned into an episode of the show. I don't know (again benefit of the doubt). It just seems overly awkward and odd to have that be your question.

"Too many darn cons lol."

:) There certainly are.

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"For s13, they added more personal touches to the bunker. Spoiler: it might be a lazy boy and a flat screen :P"

Is this legit or were they messing?

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I have no idea. I'm thinking a pool table and darts lol. Dean loves those. A flat screen would be good too. The TV's in Sam's room now. They need a big one in the living areas.

I guess this answers my question about the bunker if it's still there in season 13.

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"I guess this answers my question about the bunker if it's still there in season 13."

That's what I was thinking! I just wanted to make sure they weren't kidding about the lazy boy and flat screen before I said it. If it's true, the bunker should be safe going into season 13. Hoping that also means that the BMoL will no longer be around next season. That was my other concern, that the bunker would still be around but taken over by the BMoL. I guess it still could be, but the BMoL don't seem like Lazy Boy and flat screen TV fans.

"J2 have done something for s13 already."

Any ideas on what this means?

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"Any ideas on what this means?"

Based on the usual production schedule, it's way too early for them to have filmed anything. Maybe they did a table reading of the outline of episode 13.01?

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"Jensen is slated to direct again next season!"

Also, I think this is great. Here's hoping he gets a good script.

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He'll probably get the Buckleming.

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Yeah, he does always seemed to be cursed with their episodes, but maybe they'll change it up next year.

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Thanks, Virile!

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My pleasure, Bozz. Main Panel is now up and Cassio has the links to the videos.

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*Spoiler*


Does anyone have any ideas for why Mark P. would say we'll hate him after the finale? I'm guessing that they're changing pace and making him full-on evil from here on out?

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No idea but this nips in the bud any speculation about a redemption arc. Maybe Lucifer kills Mary? It won't be Sam or Dean, there's no tension in that since they're the leads.

I've always been of the mind that he would either fall in love with the nephilim or cannibalize him for his powers. He mentioned using him as a vessel, but then again, I don't see this making us hate Luci since not all fans aren't pro-nephilim. i'm thinking he kills Mary but it's probably wishful thinking on my part. Again, that wouldn't make me hate him. Now of he touches Jody!!!

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"i'm thinking he kills Mary but it's probably wishful thinking on my part. Again, that wouldn't make me hate him."

Yeah, I'm not thinking too many fans would hate him for killing Mary either . . . unless they do a massive amount of work on her character between now and the finale, but I'm not hopeful of that given how many episodes are left and how many of them feature Mary. To be honest, I'd much rather they do the hard thing and put the time in on fleshing out who Mary is next season than have her just die. For her to die now would be a waste of a season and her character, and some grand sacrifice on her part would ring hollow. Maybe he'll figure out a way to get out of his body and will coerce Mary into being his vessel. I wouldn't hate him, but it'd be interesting. I'm just not sure they're willing to give up Mark P. for something like that.

Maybe he kills somebody else? If he kills Kelly, I don't think that'd make me hate him. If he kills the baby . . . I'm not sure they'd do that on network TV, and I'm not entirely sure what his motivation in doing that would be. Maybe he could use the baby as a vessel and go home with some unwitting character that way, but I wouldn't hate him for that. I just wouldn't want to see it, because I find the idea boring, and again, I'm not sure how long they have Mark P., but if they can have him in season 13, I'm not sure they'd give him up for that. Cannibalizing the baby . . . maybe, but would they show that on network TV?

My guess is that he'll kill Rowena, Crowley, or Cas. Rowena - He's already killed her, and she came back, but if it were permanent . . . I'm not sure that this would make me hate him even though I like Rowena a lot. Crowley or Cas - if he kills either of them, then I could see that making fans hate him.

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He kills Eileen? That would make me hate him.

And yeah don't think network TV has the guts to murder a baby. Not the CW anyway.

They'll either have him kill Mary or have her become his vessel in some self sacrifice thing. Tho I don't think it will make me like her.

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By cannibalizing I didn't necessarily mean eating him. More like depleting him of his powers like a Shtriga would a child. It might leave the nephilim semi human, or weak and wasting away until it dies.

I would definitely hate his and the show's guts if he kills Rowena and would consider dropping the show if he kills Crowley lol. I have no illusion that Lucifer would kill Castiel, unfortunately. This is one character who's never going away.

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Ummm....I went to the Ibelieveinthelittletreetopper spoiler site and I have a pretty good idea who Lucifer might kill. Suffice it to say, I will hate it and Lucifer if they go there. I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it and it would be a major spoiler so go there if you are interested. Look at some of the guest cast for 12x22 and see if you think the same thing.

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May I suggest you making a thread about it? I'm sure many people would love to discuss it. I know I would :)

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I saw this site a few days ago hen I was googling spoilers and I browsed it quickly.
I'm looking now and they really have a nice page for spoilers. I'm reading lol.
Thanks for the recommendation.

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Okay I saw it.

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You can talk about it here if you want. Just maybe tag it with *SPOILER* at the top, so anyone reading knows to skip your post.

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J2 Gold Panel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxh3kzGBTU

Afternoon panel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3SeK1DAyLk

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Thanks so much :)

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J2 Main Panel SeaCon 2017
Source: J2 Main Panel

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Boys joke around with Rob and Rich.
Talking about their kids. Jensen jokes that three is the magic number apparently lol.
Jared talks about being daddy to a daughter. Jensen points and laughs :P
They wrap on Wednesday the 26th for s12. Some cool stuff coming up, they read the last couple episodes. Jared didn’t expect it to go where it went. “Writers are surprising me still.”
Fan to Jared: What conditioner do you use? Jensen gets up and acts like he’s paying the fan for asking that lol.
Jensen: Inquiring minds want to know. Jared laughs: I spent many years just kind of using whatever is available. Jensen mocks him. Jared: I see you on the TV! Jensen: Good!
Jared does bunny ears to Jensen so it appears on screen. Jared: Beanie conditioner. That’s my secret trick.
Jensen won’t let it go lol. Jensen: Answer her question. Do you use conditioner? Jared: Yeah if it’s there. Jensen: Every time you shampoo? Audience: Ohh! Jared: Ooh, shit just got real! Jensen: Do you shampoo then conditioner? Jared: I’m thinking! Says he used the hotel shampoo and conditioner. Jensen: Ahh there it is!!
Jared squeezes Jensen’s chest. After touching him: There’s Jensen on me.
Advice for people that constantly fuck up. Jensen jokes: Stop. Jared: You can’t stop. I mean it, y’all are gonna make a mistake. Jared talked with his psychiatrist about being concerned he’s gonna mess up his kids. The doctor told him he would. Jared: That’s not reassuring! The doctor said the point is you have a mindset that you’ll look at whatever the mistake was and figure out the why and where it came from and forgive yourself.
Jensen: However, don’t just forgive yourself and then continue, learn from your mistakes. Jared nods in agreement.
Favorite season finale to film? Jared says finale are very hard because they’re exhausting and then it’s the biggest ep of the year.
Jensen talks about the end of s1 when Baby gets hit with them inside. The three Winchester men and the car in peril.
At that time they didn’t know they were coming back, so it was weird saying goodbye to the crew and the characters, not knowing. Instead of recent seasons, where they know they are getting ready (thanks for s13).
Jensen asks Jared hardest finale to film for him. Jared says s8. Jensen: I’m gonna speak for both of us and say we haven’t filmed it yet. That’s gonna be a tough one.
Jared: Do any of y’all want to visit during the series finale?
Jared wants to raise money for charity and all watch it together somewhere.
(At some point): Fan: I’m a really big Jensen fan. Jared: I am, too.
A fan said they had heard that during a scene where Jared died in his arms, when they called cut Jensen continued holding Jared and crying; fan wants to know if that’s true? Jensen admits that it’s true, tries to say he just had something in his eye, though, lol

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---A fan said they had heard that during a scene where Jared died in his arms, when they called cut Jensen continued holding Jared and crying; fan wants to know if that’s true? Jensen admits that it’s true, tries to say he just had something in his eye, though, lol ---

Watching Sam and Dean always makes me want to hold them and wish they can be really happy someday, but now I want to hold J2 as well. I'm not even the motherly type.. :-/

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"now I want to hold J2 as well"

Yeah, it reminds me of when Jensen talked about the s10 finale without giving away too much and said his sleeve was soaked with Jared's tears. I think Jared said the cut that aired was one where he didn't cry all that much. They really go deep in their emotions.

"Jared died in his arms"

Grain of salt but that could mean Sam dies in the finale? He hasn't died in a while, what an awkward thing to say lol. Dean died in "Miracles", maybe it's Sam's turn? I remember writing in the first couple of reviews of s12 that I saw foreshadowing for Sam dying this season but since I haven't seen anything that led me to believe he would after a few episodes, I completely forgot about it. You know that would be a relief actually, because it would mean no one else dies (maybe), and we already know Sam is coming back in season 13.

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I reread the panel sum and I'm not sure the fan was talking about an upcoming episode. It seems they could have been talking about an episode we've already seen, so I take back what I said about Sam possibly dying this season.

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I'm not up to date anyway, still have some of S11 and all of S12 to watch.. :-)

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Oh! Well, enjoy :)

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I agree virile it's been worth catching up on. Season ten is way better than nine. Glad I gave it a chance.

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I also liked season 10 better than 9. Dean's slow progression toward madness was fascinating to watch. Among many other things.

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Jared to Jensen: When do you feel like in performing Dean’s lines it took over you the most? Jared says he has an idea which scene, but wants to know what Jensen’s answer is. Jensen says it was when Dean talks to Sam about hell and Jared says yeah, that’s what he was thinking. Jensen had to walk it off. Jared’s was Croatoan, when he couldn’t shut off the tears.
Jared gives an emotional fan some love, reminds her that everyone in the room is her family and has her back.
How do they feel about JDM as Negan on The Walking Dead? They are very proud. Jensen: We both know Jeff very well and he’s a sincerely kind and beautiful man. To play that much of a badass, I was proud because he killed it. He’s that talented. That made his two sons very proud. Jared: Yeah. Similar but slightly different reaction: Man, I am such a better hunter than dad. He’s having trouble with zombies??
The boys perform a scene from The Walking Dead, making fun of how easy it would be to deal with the walkers. Jared plays the zombie. Jensen plays “anyone take your pick” Jensen just walks away while zombie!Jared stumbles around.
Jared: Very proud of him, love Jeff!
Jensen talks about a scene where Negan is shooting at people. Jared teases him about spoilers. Jensen: Have you seen Titanic? It sinks. Jared: Three hours of my life. Jensen: Wish someone would have told me that.
Regarding the SPNFamily, they felt it was a family after doing some of the conventions. Jensen says years ago he realized it wasn’t just about the actors or people onstage, that there were people coming together because of a common theme or thing that they all had in common. Their love for this show and characters.
Jared agrees. Says it’s his favorite part about coming to cons. You’re here hanging out with your friend, it’s not just about us. When he sees people that met because of the show or conventions it warms his heart. He thinks about friends he’s made going to Pearl Jams concerts and music festivals. Loves to see those connections.
Even little, sweet moments, like earlier in Jared’s m&g when a mother and daughter were sitting three seats apart and one of the other fans moved just so they could sit together. Jared loves that: we’re all here ‘cause we love each other.
Jensen talks about fans meeting on the internet, “chatrooms and blog spaces…” The boys didn’t know about Richard Speight’s #DickChat he’s being doing on Creation Entertainments Snapchat all weekend. When the fans yell Dickchat at them, their faces are priceless. Jensen: I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing anymore. Jared: Oh, Richard!
Asked about favorite Disney movies? Jared says Jensen’s is The Little Mermaid. Jensen: Don’t knock Ariel.
Jared: I wrote a paper on this in high school. The Lion King. Says it was more than a guilty pleasure. Jensen is smiling and shaking his head. Jared wanted to be JTT (Jonathan Taylor Thomas). He wrote a paper how on Star Wars, The Lion King and the movie The Natural and the archetypes in all those stories. Jared: And now I get to play a character that gets to play similar archetypes.
Jared to Jensen: Sing? Or Elsa? Jensen: At this point it is whatever my daughter’s favorite movie is. The good thing is that it changes weekly. Right now it’s Sing. Out of all the songs she only wants to hear the rock song the character Ash sings. Jensen just has to tap his foot and JJ busts out into song.
Jensen: If I have to pick one of the classics, maybe Aladdin. You know why? ‘Cause I can show you the world. Jared facepalms. Jensen: In shining shimmery splendor. Jared: Tell me- Jensen: Princess, now when did you last let your heart decide? BOOM!
Jared says that if his three-year-old is having a tantrum, he plays the
Jared my three year old if he’s having a tantrum I’ll play the Pineapple Pen song and it calms him down lol.
Jensen: Don’t look it up. Save yourself. So disturbing.
Fan asks if they or Sam and Dean would consider giving up humanity for powers, like angel or demon? Jared: No. Jensen shakes head in agreement. Jared says one of the themes Jared really enjoys is what it’s like to be ultimately powerful or flawed. Loves the humanity on the show and struggling with what it is to be human. Wouldn’t trade imperfection for perfection.
Jared notices that Jensen is smiling to himself about something. Jared: What are you thinking about because you have a weird look on your face? Jensen was thinking about a reference to Young Frankenstein he made while Jared was answering the question.
They start whispering and laughing to each other.
Jensen says he wants to do the Young Frankenstein “Puttin’ on the Ritz” where Dr. Frankenstein and the Creature are singing together (YouTube clip from the movie). Jensen set its up impersonating Frankenstein and Jared finishes impersonating the Creature. Jensen: Yes!! Dear diary, it finally happened
Jared would bring Ruby back from the dead. Jensen: Dad.

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Asked about favorite dance moves. Jared does one and starts giggling. J2 start dancing on stage togehter!! Cracking up.
Fan: Best day of my life!
Jensen: Ahh cramp, cramp! Jared: Pulled a hammy!
Jared did “fancy feat” and Jensen did the Running Man into the Roger Rabbit.
Fan asks J2 about the s1 UK “Scary Just Got Sexy” promo they did. Jared holds up the fan’s iPad to the camera so everyone can watch it onscreen (link to promo).
J2 start dancing on stage again.
Jared: That was scary and sexy. Jensen I remember that ad. J2: together: Scary. Just. Got. Sexy.
For that ad they brought the woman in white back and it was shot in Vancouver. Jensen remembers because the budget was small and it wasn’t visual effects of the blood coming down the wall. It was real. When it comes down the wall Jensen didn’t move away quickly enough the first time and they had to clean up his leather jacket. He had to hurry away so it wouldn’t happen again lol. Jared: Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Jensen talks about how it’s not difficult for them to include changes in their characters because they have experienced what the characters have gone through from performing them on camera. Makes it easier to add those things into the character. Jensen says that the characters never really change; they grow in wisdom and experiences but their core has always been solid and the foundation of who they are and the show.
Jared agrees, says they aren’t method actors but, for example, in a couple hours they’re gonna head back to Vancouver so they can be up at 6 the next day and they will spend 12-14 hours filming maybe two minutes of screen time. So during shooting they are living in the moment. They also encourage each other while filming, like saying hey, do that again, etc. Says that most of the writers are new; a good, talented writer will look at Jensen and Jared and write the characters based on the sensibilities J2 bring to them.
Acting advice: Jared: Just act. Go to a local theater, do it with your buddies, put it on YouTube, do it to perform. You can tell a story, entertain, enlighten; don’t forget why you’re acting. Jensen brings up Steven Spielberg and how he started out with his dad’s 8mm camera just making stories he loved. We can do that with phones. Put stuff out there. Work begets work.
Jared: Whoever you are, you have a story to tell. Figure that out and tell it. Like with he and Jensen with Sam and Dean Winchester.
Favorite part about being parents? Jensen: Many things. One that comes to mind immediately, something as simple as taking my asleep three and a half year old and carrying her up the stairs to bed. That does it for me.
Jensen: Recently they were in Dallas visiting his family. Staying downtown went to the aquarium, and halfway through JJ fell asleep in his arms. It was about a mile back to the hotel. Uphill. Carried her the entire way. She’s like 40 pounds but dead weight and wrapped him. His dad asked if he wanted him to take over. Jensen said, Nope, I got this. Really cool moment.
Jared says he loves the little things, too. He and Jensen have had some really cool life experiences. Meet all sorts of people, lots of travelling. Jared says in his 34 years he’s been very blessed, and it’s human nature to get jaded and turn it into “well, that’s just life.” However, with his kids, he gets to re-experience things for the first time. Like a butterfly flying. The kids love it and it’s exciting again. Living life over again and re-experiencing how wonderful it really can be. The wonder that his kids have is infectious. He learns from them as much as he hopes they learn from him.
Jared mentions the weird crazy room and the ball lights. Jensen laughs. Jared grabs Jensen’s shoulder and shakes him a little while laughing.
During the last question, “Kmart” (aka Kreespa) offers to film the girl onstage. Jared asks Kmart if she knows her; she doesn’t. Jared brings back what he was saying about how the fandom has that connection with each other and offers to do things like that and how cool it is.
Last question: How does it feel to be a part of this the family? Jared: for me it’s humbling. To feel a connection to somebody and how it reminds him to see the best in people and in himself. Small random acts of kindness. It’s a neat blessing.
Jensen: Yeah, humbling is certainly a great word to describe it. Also, accountability. I could be selfish and live my life for me. I know that I can’t do that because I have children. My life just isn’t mine anymore. I get to share it with so many more people. He is fueled by that inspiration.
Richard tells them about Dickchat. Jensen: I thought we moved on from that. Rob: You never move on. Richard records them for Snapchat. Jared gives a thumbs up in front of the audience and cracks up when Jensen yells “Dickchat!” into Richard’s phone lol.

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Thanks for all of this!

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My pleasure :)

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