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Unfortunately, I'm underwhelmed


Everyone talks about this film. "Oh Pan's Labyrinth is so good!" "It's an awesome movie!".

I had such high hopes and expectations. And almost none of them were met. My fault? Probably.

Some of my thoughts:

1. The girl was not annoying or a brat, except when she ate from the Pale Man's table. I felt like it was much less believable than when say, Abu from Aladdin tried to steal the large Gem in the cave. Abu is a monkey, a pickpocket monkey, and I would expect him to completely forget rules. Not a 12 (?) year old girl. It felt so forced, her failing that challenge. You really, really couldn't have waited 15 minutes to get something from the kitchen? Really?

2. "Sadistic stepfather". Sadistic? No, I didn't think he was at all. I think he was appropriately commandeering for a, you know, military captain. Yeah, people will torture for information, that's par for the course. I've seen far, far worse out of people in his position with less power. Amon Goeth he is not. I expected him to beat the living *beep* out of the girl or to abuse the mother what with the word "sadistic" being applied to him, but he didn't do either, to my disappointment. He was just used to people following his orders. He didn't even verbally or emotionally abuse the mother or Ofelia except at the dinner party (paraphrasing "She forgets that people aren't interested in her stories"...well, that's a dickish thing to say but I wouldn't consider it to be overly abusive, just cold) and before the climax of the film when he sent her to her room (he slapped her once or twice and not even that hard). He's supposed to be a "bad force" in this film but despite his chauvinism and ruthlessness, I actually empathized with him. He was the most compelling and interesting character out of all of them.

3. The magic and fantasy elements. I wanted so much more. The faun was creepy as hell but in an entertaining way. I also conjured up this idea of how the film may have gone before seeing it (having heard so much about it). I really thought it was going to be an Alice in Wonderland type story, but instead it basically ended up like Bridge to Terabithia or the Spiderwick Chronicles or whatever.

I really wanted to like this film. I really wanted this film to be what I thought it was going to be, to be honest, and it wasn't, hence my 6/10 score. I was reminded of Jim Henson's "The Labyrinth" only because of, well, the word Labyrinth in the title and because it seems to be mashed a bit together...

That ending also felt very heavy, as well. Just...come on, dude.

So yeah, you could say I'm disappointed. If you love this film, that's great. These are just my problems with it.

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So you didnt found Vidal a sadistic prick... and you empathized with him... Ok. I think you need a psychologist.

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Don't worry, I have a psychiatrist and a counselor.

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I was also disappointed in the amount of fantasy in the film, not only because it's called "Pan's Labyrinth" and I expected there to be more about the labyrinth and this other world, but also just because of how I felt after watching the trailer and stills that I'd seen of the film. However, I think having that kind of an expectation of a film is unfair. Titles aren't always a literal description of the film, and trailers/stills usually tend to show the most beautiful scenes of the film. And seeing as it isnt a "traditional" sequel (i say that because del toro describes it as a spiritual sequel to another film of his), or a reboot, or an adaptation of anything, having expectations as far as plot elements isn't really realistic. That said, I was also expecting more and was disappointed because of that expectation. I wish I hadn't expected it, but I did. So I can sympathize with you there.

Where did you get sadistic from when describing him? I didn't read too much about it before watching, only recommendations from friends and I also have just always wanted to see it but never got around to it until now.

Though I can objectively say that it was quite a unique and well-done film and I'm glad I watched it.

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I got the word "sadistic" from the synopsis on this website, LOL

In the falangist Spain of 1944, the bookish young stepdaughter of a sadistic army officer escapes into an eerie but captivating fantasy world.


IMDB said "sadistic", I expected "sadistic". I did not get "sadistic" 🙍

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I completely agree with you. I made an eerily similar thread to this actually before you did...

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Sadistic? No, I didn't think he was at all


He caved in a man's face with a bottle. And then he confirmed he was innocent.

You are sin.

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I also got the impression Vidal just might have something to do with the death of Ofelia's father.

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3. The magic and fantasy elements. I wanted so much more. The faun was creepy as hell but in an entertaining way. I also conjured up this idea of how the film may have gone before seeing it (having heard so much about it). I really thought it was going to be an Alice in Wonderland type story, but instead it basically ended up like Bridge to Terabithia or the Spiderwick Chronicles or whatever.


A pivot point in this film is whether the magic is real or not. It's so little of it, you might think it is just poor Ofelia's imagination. Then, towards the end, when Vidal crumbles the magical chalk (showing that it's real), and the resistance enters Ofelia's empty prison (showing that it actually works, and that Ofelia is in Vidal's study on purpose, placing the chalk for Vidal to find it), then all that happened earlier in the film takes on a new hue (like in the Sixth Sense). The early scenes it isn't Ofelia resenting Vidal, it is Princess Moanna. Only that she doesn't yet know why she has to put up with him for a while.

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So, basically, this post can be summarized with "Boo Hoo, the movie wasn't what I wanted so it sucks."

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For #1, she was sent to bed without food. In wartime, the populace was under rations. Last but not least, she actually was under a spell when at the table. The shrieking of the fairies managed to snap her out of it.

For #2, I'd peg Vidal as sadistic as well. Yes, the things that people in the military do, even in modern and "more enlightened" times would be hard to deal with for civilians. However, there were many cases against Vidal's favor...
--Doctor recommended that his wife not travel in her state of pregnancy
He wouldn't have any of it. Father must be around when child is born
--He asked the doctor to prioritize the child over the mother's life
--when asked what if the baby is a girl, his response was "don't fuck with me", which seems to imply that if it were a daughter, he'd at best not raise her nor deal with her. At worst, I don't even want to know

--He shot the doctor for disobeying his orders
That's up to interpretation under the military code they're on, but still adding it in. Through the movie goers eyes, the doctor did refuse what he thought was an unlawful order
--He shot Ofelia (the girl) after he got his son back

--He bludgeoned a civilian
The old man did tell the truth
--The old man's son was also shot
Some say this was to spare him from losing his father, but that's still on Vidal.

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