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There really ought to be more movies about WW1


As we approach the 100th anniversary of the war to end all wars, I think there should be some more movie representations of said conflict. Peter Jackson is a WW1 nut, and he recently made a short film about military aviation in the Great War. What is the problem with someone making a WW1 movie about either the ground or aerial warfare? Lack of ability to secure funding?

Maybe the second world war had more identifiable 'bad guys'. Maybe the first world war is a bit more of a 'downer' and a non-victory. But I find the war of 1914-18 to be quite an interesting period of history.

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There are a myriad of incredible stories to be told, but here's the biggest problem, at least, as far as Hollywood is concerned:

Very, VERY few Americans.

Foreign film companies likely don't have the budgets to do a really good WWI action flick ala Saving Private Ryan or similar and American companies want American heroes. There are next to none in World War One.

When Flyboys (won't lie, still haven't seen it) came out, I thought the idea was laughable. I always thought an aerial-focused WWI film had tremendous potential with the German, French and British aces carving out a brand new kind of combat in the skies. To focus on the handful of American pilots is skipping over the best stories (the Red Baron's life and death begs a biopic) and goes straight to scraping the bottom of the barrel before the barrel is even empty.

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While it is true that America was a late entry into WWI, it did mobilize some 4,355,000 troops and suffered 322,398 total casualties, including 116,708 killed in action. Flyboys deals with American volunteer fliers, but there were volunteers serving in other capacities before the U.S. entered the war.

A number of Americans served in the trenches with the French and British armies. Still others served as ambulance drivers. In the German army, Karl Llewellyn was wounded at the First Battle of Ypres and received the Iron Cross before returning to the U.S. where he enrolled in Yale Law School and became editor-in-chief of the Yale Law Journal.

WWI movies were an early staple of Hollywood. The 1927 silent film Wings received the first Academy Award for Best Picture. Other notable WWI films include The Big Parade (1925); Hell's Angels (1930); The Lost Battalion (1919), which was remade in 2001; Paths of Glory (1958), which deals with the French Army Mutinies of 1917; and Sergeant York (1941). Yet another remake of All Quiet on the Western Front (1930, 1979) is expected to be released in 2013.

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Dawn Patrol (1938) should not be overlooked. It just might be the best WWI movie on the air war.
KS

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You'd think CGI would open up WW1 aviation movies as more viable. I think Flyboys looked fantastic. War movies tend to deal with the wars that live in the memory of the audience. Anyway, whatever war or whatever side you cover, the story's usually the same.

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I thought this movie would be more like the book "To the Last Man"... at least the flying portions. Raoul Lufburry and the Red Baron featured along with the rest of the Lafayette Escadrille. It was a great story, and flyboys felt like a weak retelling of it, with some of the characters like weak watered down versions of the real characters. I had just finished the book coincidentally, so the timing may have ruined the movie for me somewhat. I'll have to rewatch it at some point, but its not high on my list.

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Galipoli, Joyuse Noel, The Red Baron, Warhorse?
Seems like there are a fair number of recently made ones around, they just tend not to be made by the Hollywood machine.

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The Fighting 69th, The Blue Max, Von Richtofen and Brown, and Zeppelin. I think that covers most of the big ones.

I love the vintage airplanes, CGI renderings of vintage airplanes just aren't the same.

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I know this thread is old, but here we are only a few months away from the 100 year anniversary of the guns of August. I also would like to see more films about WWI, and I also think a film depicting the lead-up to the war would be fascinating if done right.

My understanding is that after the assassination of Ferdinand, the war could have been averted if not for various diplomatic mistakes and misunderstandings. Once the mobilizations began though, the powers were basically locked into a collision course, because whoever disrupted their own mobilation first would have made themselves too vulnerable to attack. So once mobilization began, it couldn't be stopped (almost like a slow-mo version of a modern day nuclear escalation).

That whole process would make a great historical film, although realistically it would probably be a box office flop as a lot of really good films are.



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