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sammy sosa and mark mcgwire ruined this film for me

posted 12 years ago by fliphop
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im sorry, but baseball essentially destroyed itself in the 1990s. i just cant really ever see myself going back.

yes, it was a great game. but jackie robinson did not look like the incredible hulk, nor did he need to.

while this film was greatly inspirational, i couldn't help but think about how baseball is kind of a dying sport. kids play soccer now, they root for basketball heroes, and they watch hockey and volleyball at the olympics.

when i think about steroids, and having to explain the asterisk next to barry bonds name, i kind of have a hard time thinking about encouraging a kid to play baseball.

jackie was a hero for his time, but we need new heroes for our time. people who speak up against corruption, people who sacrifice their careers in order to stay clean, people who dont go with the flow while the system devolves into cheating.

[–] rcwells86 12 years ago

You do realize steroids are used in every sport right?

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[–] dodger84578 12 years ago

Yasiel puig is the reals though

[–] kevinyetter 12 years ago

I agree with poster. I am a die hard Cards Fan, but McGuire is an embarrassment to the game !

[–] ZevII 12 years ago

Sosa and McGwire ruined it for me, too. They were sitting right next to me and wouldn't shut up during the whole movie.

[–] nymichael2002 11 years ago

lol

[–] wunderdunder 11 years ago

Sosa and McGwire ruined it for me, too. They were sitting right next to me and wouldn't shut up during the whole movie.

Now that was funny!

[–] jgroub 11 years ago

Nice!

I want the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.

[–] Fungazi 11 years ago

I kinda thought the opposite. After seeing the movie and knowing he made the HOF I went to check how astronomical his numbers must be - since he started at age 27. To my surprise he had slightly over 100 dingers and around 300 avg for the time and not sure how that would quality to be honest. Not to discount what the film portrays he went through, but those are not good career numbers. These generally low numbers against inferior competition don't stand out.

Also - for one example, Joey Votto has already destroyed his career numbers and will be around for many more years.

[–] hachmom-1 11 years ago

Two things to bear in mind. One is that Hall of fame consideration includes charecter, of which Robinson had a great deal. Also allowance was made for lesser stats among many ballplayers of the period because of the time they lost to World War II. Many lost 4-5 years at the heights of their careers.

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[–] Fungazi 11 years ago

Good points. Just personally I had never looked into his actual stats and just assumed they would have been way up there.

[–] thepartydjz 9 years ago

You said it yourself "he started at age 27" he wasn't your typical home run hitter, and what exactly is wrong with a 300 average ?

To compare his or anyone else prior to the steroid era to the "users" of todays game is completely unfair.

I suppose you would say Barry Bonds was a better power hitter than Harmon Killebrew or a better pure hitter than Willie McCovey. Nonsense !!

[–] tempmail1974 9 years ago

Jackie numbers as a player would never make the HOF, regardless of era. Being 27 wouldn't change a thing, and most major-league players don't arrive until about 23-25 anyway.

His composure and historical significance assured his spot, however.