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Drug users are ugly monsters


Well, at least, if you look at this show, that's the impression one gets.

Just look at those awful skins, crazy or death-like faces, that neurotic behaviour.

This show shows 'human beings' that are the bottom of the barrel. It can't get lower than this. There are hobos that look better than the individuals on this show.

Though the family members aren't winning any beauty pageants, either, usually.

I just wonder how low can humanity go.. watching this show, it certainly looks like aside from murderers and thieves/robbers, nothing can be lower than these ugly monstrosities.

In this kind of a world, it's certainly understandable that people want to escape, and after living in the wonderful astral world, then incarnating on this painful, heavy, physical level where even a simple thing like 'boredom' can drive you out of your mind, it's easy to see how one would easily pick up a bottle, a pill box or a cigarette (of some kind).

But there's something pathetic about these addicts, besides their repulsive looks and how their whole being 'feels' (I guess, 'aura' and all that is broken or dysfunctional).

I mean, I can understand someone getting addicted to something (The Creator knows, I have been addicted myself) - and how sometimes it's very hard to get out of the addiction.

Still, in the end, I can't completely understand or feel sympathy for individuals, who can't (or won't) just rip themselves off of a dangerous substance. Enough is enough, and with just ordinary willpower, you should be able to quit pretty much anything. They say that cigarettes are even more addictive than heroin, and I have been able to put a stop to that (years ago), so there's really no excuse.

I didn't even need any 'intervention' for it. I just decided, "no more right now, no matter how much my body wants it". The point where I couldn't stand the 'craving' never came. I could always wait for it to go away, and it always did, until it just stopped coming.

I guess the trick is to just make the decision separately every time the craving attacks you - "not right now, my lungs still hurt", or "not right now, I want to keep this lighter feeling a bit longer". No one can quit for 'years' or for 'the rest of their life' - but everyone can quit for 'just this moment'.

I never really made a decision to quit completely or anything - I never changed my psychological status from "smoker" to "non-smoker" - so technically, I still 'smoke', but I just haven't HAPPENED to smoke for years as of now. Keeping it nice and open like that, keeping the possibility and having the permission from yourself to do it any time I want to, makes it easier to just say: "I also have freedom to enjoy NOT doing it right now".

Some people enjoy smoking, some people enjoy not smoking. The latter feels better to me.

Another trick is to find all kinds of other things, and dive deeply into them and enjoying them - for example, you can play computer / video games as much as you want, to replace the habit of smoking. Things like that work very well. Also, breathing exercises create life in the lungs, so they feel like they have really received a 'fix' of some kind. Once the worst cravings go away, with all these other things, it's easy.

I guess you could say you can 'channel' the "craving of cigarettes" to other things, by recognizing that it's just "craving", and you can sort of 'fool' your body and mind to think it is craving something else. Like, satisfying some -other- artificial 'need'. Even a simple, brisk walk can make a difference.

Let's say you have a craving, and then you start doing something extremely interesting that occupies your focus - the craving won't go away, but you focusing away from it allows you to just put it in the background and in a 'waiting mode', where it will then simply vanish, while you are doing something better. For example, a creative project.

And recognizing that a craving isn't a constant, but comes in waves, you can easier just go through the wave, that comes at a specificic time, completely predictable. After a meal, when drinking coffee, and so on.

In any case, I digressed a bit, but my point is, that it sometimes looks pretty pathetic, how these ugly monsters can't lift up themselves from the self-created mess that costs lives, causes crimes to happen, keeps money flowing to evil people (drugdealers etc.), and is dangerous to their surroundings, other people and the environment - not to mention the monetary costs that someone has to pay.

Why give yourselves so completely to a lowly addiction, that gives you just short, violent 'fixes' that won't last (and a lot of pain), when you could live a healthy, fresh life and do creative and interesting things?

Are human beings this pathetic? That they will give up everything, their humanity, their money, possessions, abilities, possibilities etc. just for a small, quick 'fix' of slight euphoria?

If there was a side-effect-free, five-minute "euphoria fix", and everyone could have as many of those as they want, would everyone be an 'addict'? Would people forget to eat, paint, compose music, program video games and demos for fun, make plans for travelling and seeing the world, etc.?

Would they forget to walk in forests, meditate, practice spirituality and evolve spiritually?

Would they stop evaluating their lives, their choices, thinking about their possibilities, trying to expand their tiny existence into something greater?

Would they just sit on a couch and pop those 'fixes' until their bodies stop functioning?










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No one cares.

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Are you actually comparing your self-bartering working for your nicotine addiction with any hardcore addict who "can't just stop"? Did I understand this correctly?

Nicotine being more addictive than heroin is a known fallacy that swirls around. There are many out there; like the one where humans only use 10% of their brain; it's just not true. Studies that have suggested anything close to nicotine addiction being "equal to or more difficult than heroin" are taking into account many different factors that are skewing yours or anyone else's beliefs that the two drugs are in any way "equal."

Nicotine is legal, very available, cheaper, and people are more functional on it and also are less likely to seek treatment for it. That may make it look like "golly gee, nicotine users just can't help themselves, just like heroin addicts!" FALSE. These factors make nicotine appear "easier" to keep doing; it does not mean nicotine addiction is anything comparable to heroin as far as both drugs being "equally addictive." Also, while nicotine kills, people tend to smoke longer than addicts using heroin, who have less time to quit it--their mortality is higher. Therefore, one could say, "people smoke cigarettes longer than people use heroin--nicotine must be more addictive!" FALSE AGAIN.

Yes, nicotine is genuinely difficult to quit for biochemical reasons; it does work on the brain in a way that makes many smokers keep itching for more. However, it is really like comparing apples to oranges with heroin addiction because of all the legal and environmental issues that keep smokers smoking compared to people using heroin. Not to mention, the way the brain and body respond to heroin is much more powerful. Comparing nicotine addiction to heroin addiction is just not wise, and you should not even try.

By the way, replacing an addiction with another potentially unhealthy habit is the antitheses of well-being, so you need to be careful when you promote that. Yes, video-gaming can potentially be a harmful addiction. Thanks for playing arm-chair psychologist with your verbose diatribe though. Your title says it all. You don't understand the disease of addiction at all. While your personal story of employing your own treatment does work for many, it is painfully pretentious to assume it will work with all. And will power? Did you truly type that with a straight face?

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Are you actually comparing your self-bartering working for your nicotine addiction with any hardcore addict who "can't just stop"? Did I understand this correctly?
Thank you. I was going to ask the same thing lol.

The beauty is I'm learning how to face my beast ~ Blue October

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Omg thank you, that was absurd

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I stopped reading this stupid, idiotic, self-righteous blabbering halfway through, and I truly don't even know what to say. I do agree with the above posts for sure. "They say" cigarettes are more addicting that HEROIN??? You try using heroin, going through opiate withdrawal (which is hell on earth), and then get back to me. People can die from withdrawal from certain drugs and alcohol, there is absolutely no comparison to nicotene.

Go away. You are extremely annoying.


Go away

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If it is as easy as you say it is, then why do we have so many people with addictions? I don't think you realize what drug (or alcohol, which is usually referred to as a drug in subject of addiction) addiction truly is. Once you have taken that pain pill, stuck the needle in your arm, or smoked meth (or heroin), you have turned on a part of your brain that should not be turned on. Have you ever wondered why some people enjoy opiate pain pills so much that they abuse them while others can't stand how they make them feel?

No one wakes up one day and decides to become an addict. Usually it starts with experimentation or something as innocent as a broken bone. When it comes to addiction, it's a slow descent into hell. You may take that substance once in awhile, then every other day, then every day. ... then you realize you "need" it more often. Before you know it, your body and brain relies on that substance for you to "feel normal." You are no longer abusing to achieve a high. You are abusing to feel "normal."

Most usually, by the time addicts are deep into their addiction, they're using the substance because their brain and body have become completely dependent on that substance for you to actually get out of bed. When you're high, all you can think about is how to get your next fix. When you come down off that substance, your body is hurting so badly for that next fix. Your brain won't leave you alone. Your next fix is all you can think about.

Many (if not most) addicts have underlying issues (mental illness, clinical depression, eating disorders, poor coping skills, trauma, bad childhood, etc), which is usually why they begin to self-medicate in the first place. If these underlying issues are not treated, the addict will usually continue to self-medicate. There is also a genetic component in which addiction can partially be hereditary. (I'm not even getting into that.)

Anyways, a certain amount of willpower comes into play after the addict has received help (medication to treat an underlying mental illness and/or talk therapy), but you can't expect someone who is deep into the addiction to rely on good ole willpower. Btw nicotine is addictive (I know, I smoke cigarettes), but nicotine addiction is not even on the same level as drug (or alcohol) addiction. Also, Katie is correct - an addict (even recovering) can easily switch addictions without realizing it.

The beauty is I'm learning how to face my beast ~ Blue October

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Did "The Creator" teach you to be so judgemental?! You don't know what these people have been through so stop judging them. You sound so full of yourself! Please, tell us what is so perfect about you and your life! Actually, on second thought...please don't...I really don't care.

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YES! ^
I second that! Way to put it!

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You're an idiot. Go do some research on how various addictions actually work, you clearly do not know or understand what you're trying to speak on.

Nicotine is not as or more addictive than heroin, or any other opioid. This, like someone in this thread already stated, is a fallacy, widely believed by people who are only capable of using 10% of their brains, such as yourself apparently. However, anyone who's capable of critical thought should find out after a minimal amount of research that it doesn't make sense and isn't true.

Go do some research, if your capable of such a thing.

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I wish I could have read your OP but it was waaaay to long. I'm not attacking you at all, and you probably had interesting things to say, but just so you know that incredibly long posts get skipped over ALOT. If you want more people to read your stuff, you have to pick the Jena out of your statement, and get rid of over used description and opinion.
If you could shorten down your post to 2 or 3 short paragraphs it would help, or use bullet points to get your idea out.
Not attacking you, just helping you get read in a sea of ppl with short attention spans.

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I guess you could say you can 'channel' the "craving of cigarettes" to other things, by recognizing that it's just "craving", and you can sort of 'fool' your body and mind to think it is craving something else. Like, satisfying some -other- artificial 'need'. Even a simple, brisk walk can make a difference.


Just so you know, you can't "quit" a habit or an addiction, you can only "change" the habit or addiction.

Yes, in a perfect world, people should choose water over pop or alcohol, they should choose exercise over heroin, alcohol and the like, but it just doesn't happen. You should maybe take a course on addiction.

You're very judgmental for someone who only knows about smoking.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog

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