Wow, I really liked Event Horizon 2
Or Sunshine, whatever it was called
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I thought the same thing.
Event Horizon: Released 1997, takes place in 2047.
Sunshine: Released 2007, takes place in 2057.
Event Horizon crew: Seven. Five men and two women. Plus one "passenger".
Icarus II crew: Seven. Five men and two women. Plus one "passenger".
Both crews have blacks, whites, and Asian crewmembers.
Pinbacker = Dr. Weir. Both have disfigured bodies and are overhumanly strong.
Both make contact to a ship that disappeared seven (yes, both 7) years before.
Both crews witness the brutal deaths of the original ship's crews on the video log.
In EH, Justin attempts suicide by letting himself out of an airlock. In Sunshine, Searle commits suicide.
Two crew members survive in both movies, one of which in both movies (Justin/Cassie) is mortally wounded.
And these were only from the top of my head. I have probably forgot many more similarities.
The two films are really nothing alike plot-wise.
Event Horizon is about an attempted rescue of a ship that had crossed into a hell-like dimension and was infected by it. The ship then forced the crew to face their own personal hells/nightmares. It's more like a haunted house in space. In fact, it has more in common with books like Hell House than movies like Sunshine.
Sunshine is about an attempted mission that hits a series of snags because one crewmember made the ill-advised decision to divert their course to try to rendezvous with another ship.
Sure, there are some superficial similarities, but that's totally irrelevant. If having someone with a disfigured body who is super strong makes a movie similar - then these are both like Goonies and The Fly and Star Wars (since underneath his armor, Darth looked like a boiled egg). And if having a character attempt or commit suicide makes movies similar, then these are like The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
And some of your alleged similarities are actually incorrect. 1. No crew members survive in Sunshine and 2. the videos in Sunshine didn't show the deaths of the crew on Icarus I - the crew on Icarus I died in the observation room and there wasn't video of it. The video showed Pinbaker going crazy.
The "feeling" of Sunshine and Event Horizon are somewhat similar, in that the tone and visuals combine to make the films unsettling. But many movies based in space have that unsettling vibe - I think it's the vulnerabilities people face in those situations.
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Sunshine featured a supernaturally strong antagonist who guarded the entrance to a fiery place of doom at the center of the known world, whereas Earth was depicted as a white, serene place in higher orbit. Event Horizon was about the discovery of a black hole that turned out to be the biblical Hell, and the demon that lived there.
The main difference is that Event Horizon didn't feature any references to Heaven.
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The main difference is that Event Horizon didn't feature any references to Heaven.
The main difference between the films is that the plots are totally dissimilar.
In Event Horizon, the crew attempts to rescue a ship which had slipped into an alternative hell-like universe and had been infected by it. The ship then forced the crew to live through their own personal hells/nightmares. Event Horizon is more like a haunted house in space than anything else.
In Sunshine, a mission to save Earth hits a bunch of snags after the crew diverts from their original path to try to rendezvous with another ship.
Sunshine featured a supernaturally strong antagonist who guarded the entrance to a fiery place of doom at the center of the known world, whereas Earth was depicted as a white, serene place in higher orbit. Event Horizon was about the discovery of a black hole that turned out to be the biblical Hell, and the demon that lived there.
Um, no.
In Sunshine, Earth was NOT depicted as serene. It was DYING. It was white because it was freezing. And the antagonist didn't guard the entrance to the "fiery place of doom" (also known as the sun) - he was attempting to thwart their mission to save the Earth.
The main obstacle in Sunshine (Pinbaker) was a religious nutjob. The movie wasn't intended as a religious allegory.
Event Horizon wasn't definitely dealing with Biblical Hell - it was an alternative universe that was hell-like.
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Of course there are differences in plot (otherwise it would be the exact same film). However, both plots are about a team on a rescue mission in space, which goes awry because the team members start behaving erratically for some reason. Whether the McGuffin is the Sun or a black hole is really besides the point.
In Sunshine, Earth was NOT depicted as serene. It was DYING. It was white because it was freezing.Yeah, I know it was ice and snow. You're missing my point. It doesn't matter why the Earth was white; the movie director was contrasting imagery of a fiery, hostile place where everyone died, with imagery of a white, dreamlike place where the protagonist kept on living in the memory of his loved ones.
The main obstacle in Sunshine (Pinbaker) was a religious nutjob. The movie wasn't intended as a religious allegory.That's merely your interpretation. Fact is that the first Icarus team (the team that failed) had a group photo where they were posing in Hawaii shirts, while the second Icarus team (the team that ultimately succeeded) had a group photo where they were celebrating Christmas.
Event Horizon wasn't definitely dealing with Biblical Hell - it was an alternative universe that was hell-like.It was indeed an alternate universe/dimension and it didn't have to be The One Biblical Hell. But an allusion to (Biblical) Hell was definitely implied throughout the movie by the filmmaker.
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Fact is that the first Icarus team (the team that failed) had a group photo where they were posing in Hawaii shirts, while the second Icarus team (the team that ultimately succeeded) had a group photo where they were celebrating Christmas.
So what are you suggesting? That the "Christian" ones made it? That God doesn't like ugly shirts?
Given the team on the Icarus II, it's far from a certainty that all of them were Christian. And no one on that mission showed any indications that they were religious at all. Not a single person, even when they knew they were about to die, showed any signs of being religious.
It doesn't matter why the Earth was white; the movie director was contrasting imagery of a fiery, hostile place where everyone died, with imagery of a white, dreamlike place where the protagonist kept on living in the memory of his loved ones.
1. Of course it matters why Earth was white. It wasn't a utopia - it was desolate. And yes, Cappa lives on in his family's memories, but that is the case for everyone, religious or not. Living on in the memories of loved ones isn't a religious trait - that's a human trait.
2. I really don't think the "fiery place" (aka the sun) works as an analogy to hell. The sun was actually their end goal. And while the sun killed Cappa and Cassie - hell isn't a means of killing - it's generally considered a place one ends up.
If anything, this movie's message is not a religious one. The one religious character was a lunatic who nearly destroyed the Earth because he believed that's what God wanted. That's not really a positive depiction of religion.
I think the allegory to hell works much better in Event Horizon. With respect to Sunshine, I think you're trying to wedge a religious allegory into a place where it doesn't fit. share
it had very noticeable similarities to Event Horizon
you're a fool if you deny it
The main difference between the films is that the plots are totally dissimilar.They are not. The antagonist in Sunshine is, as you say, 'a religious nutjob', who wants to what? Stop the Icarus II crew and then let the Earth's population burn up. Isn't that what Hell is all about?
So yes, it can easily pass as a religious allegory. share
1. Actually Earth's population would FREEZE, not burn. So I don't think your religious allegory is working - at least not the literal one you're going for.
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I just did a sci-fi double-feature of Event Horizon and Sunshine and I noticed some striking similarities between the two films:
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Event Horizon was released in 1997
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Sunshine was released ten years later in 2007
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Event Horizon takes place in 2047
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Sunshine takes place ten years later in 2057
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(Both films take place exactly 50 years into the future from their respective release dates)
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Event Horizon mission: The ship Lewis and Clark responds to a distress call from the ship Event Horizon that disappeared seven years prior for reasons unknown.
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Sunshine mission: Icarus II's second and last attempt to reignite the sun after the ship the Icarus I mission failed seven years prior for reasons unknown.
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The crew of Lewis and Clark locates and boards the once lost ship Event Horizon and find its crew is all dead
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The crew of Icarus II locates and boards the once lost ship Icarus I and find its crew is all dead.
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Once on board the Event Horizon an ominous video log is found left by the ship's captain.
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Once on board Icarus I, an ominous video log is found left by the ship's captain.
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Some crazy bald dude starts killing people on the Event Horizon
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Some crazy bald dude starts killing people on the Icarus II
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Crew on board the Event Horizon has to perform a ship separation in order to complete the mission/survive.
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Crew on board Icarus II has to perform ship a separation in order to complete the mission/human race survive.
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By the end of the film, the protagonist's ship Lewis & Clark gets destoroyed while the once lost ship Event Horizon remains intact.
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By the end of the film, the protagonist's ship Icarus II gets destroyed while the once lost ship Icarus I remains intact.
Those who deny the similarities and claim the two films are "totally different" are deluding themselves.
There are notable similarities - which was my thought upon viewing Sunshine the first time after Event Horizon (and having read nothing about the connection).
Both films are good: Event Horizon 8/10; Sunshine 7/10.