and it certainly is.
WHOA!
A 61% jump from Monday to Tuesday. Almost 5 million dollars. THIS is what LEGS look like, folks.
Get your popcorn guys...this Box office ride is going to be fun to watch.
Aquaman had a Winter release (kids and families) and Wonder Woman had a summer release (kids and families) don't you think Shazam!'s box office will be diminished by this slot when kids and families don't have that free time to get out to cinemas? I am referring to legs also.
I don't see Shazam! performing like Aquaman or Wonder Woman domestically.
It'll do decently. I think it'll get close to 200 mil domestically. It's going to stick around a while.
shareAaaaannnnd we get another nice pop on the second Tuesday with a stellar 53% Monday-to-Tuesday jump...and here's the most important number that has a lot of people in the industry smiling...a mere 35% decline from last Tuesday's surge.
Well over 3.2 million...which is more than the next two films on the chart combined.
source? Only because i want to see what numbers YOU think are "stellar".
Because you're kind of a tool and I suspect you're spin doctoring like a Fox News anchor.
So wait....$3.205 million was not the increase over Monday, but the TOTAL for Tuesday???
That's "stellar"? This movie was supposed to be "hot" and "have legs" and have an opening weekend "closer to 100M".....
Just a disclaimer: I have no horse in this race. I dont care about DC this or MC that. I think it's silly when these debating parties are clearly patrons of both.
I'm just showing Queen's likely source. And by stellar, Queen is referring to the % jump, and the lack of major % decline from last Tues, rather than the raw numbers. Those holds are better than many of the naysayers were predicting for its 2nd week after its modest 1st. And I'm sure Queen will bring up that Captain Marvel was cut in half in its 2nd Monday/Tueday, better BO, of course, but worse % decline.
Yeah, now that Snyder is out and WB seems to hagve lost the will to crap on iconic characters, I'm much happier.
I just love watching Queen flail and try to justify his idiotic claims.
I mean, I get your point...but if I put out a movie and it made 48.00 the first week and 48.00 the next week...that's a ZERO drop off but I wouldn't be crowing about it.
both sides go back and forth with exaggerations to cash in on a positive or negative moment before it changes. A week ago some anti Shazam people were claiming that it's a loser that will never break even. Queen's sparring partner goes as far as editing old posts so his sentiment or claims look better after the actual results come in
shareI beg to differ on the False Equivalency of the day: "Both sides go back and forth with exaggerations to cash in on a positive or negative moment before it changes." QueenFanUSA is the driver, the instigator and the provocateur in all of this. IN his own postings he is a dishonest broker of information in delivering his predictions, assessments and finally opinions. If you ask him to provide a link, a quote and or an article to back up some of his positions he will never return to the subject.
Queen's goal is to state, prove, project, suggest that Disney is a doomed company following a flawed movie business model. Disney = Bad, Warner or Universal = Good, Marvel about to fail = DC on the Cusp of financial greatness. Shazam is a Success and will OVER perform, any Marvel movie is going to fail and or underperform.
There is nary a person on these boards who is with, agrees or even supports QueenFanUSA. Whoops, I forgot, there is BubbatheGut, PresidentAckbar and AckbartheHut but that's all of ONE person wrapped into ONE sock-puppet and I don't even care which is which.
So just what or who is the other side and what is their agenda? The resistance, for lack of a better term, is to Queen's trolling that he doesn't think is trolling. This isn't about yin and yang or which came first. Queen will bounce from Disney film board to Disney film board unwaveringly predicting the "End is Near" for Disney. Queen's no Thanos, has no stones, no data and no conviction and is frustrated that he can't SNAP his fingers to spin Disney into a losing position on their financial balance-sheet.
If BillBrown did or didn't edit his old posts is a silly position for Queen to try and exploit. What difference does it make for the bounty of wrong positions that Queen takes and refuses to own up to? You don't think that is called "Deflection"?
Someone else posted that Queen doesn't know numbers very well and I might be inclinded to agree. Bubba created a thread soliciting the chances of CM hitting a $Billion. Queen of course couldn't wait to negatively chime in:
[–] QueenFanUSA (1601) 2 months agoWhen I asked Queen, "why less than %5"? Queen had no factual response. As a matter of fact he evaded the question but doubled down on another moved goal post that CM wouldn't do domestically as well as WW instead. WTH??!!! What happened to less than %5? He picked a %5 - %10 that it wouldn't match Wonder Woman's worldwide of ~$821 Million. That would mean that the chances of CM reaching $1 Billion would be %ZERO. I realize that zero is less than %5 but does Queen know that? It was all done to troll CM without thinking. But for what purpose? share
I agree...about 5-10% chance of beating WW.
Under 5% chance of hitting a billion.
Aside from Queen mentioning the editing, I saw it with my own eyes. What do you call a person who will take this so far as to airbrush history and hope no one notices? Queen is grandiose and wishing against hope. billbrown is dishonest enough to make himself appear right (thru editing) after realizing or worrying that his initial claim isnt panning out. The Grandiose Deflector who should think a little longer before predicting vs the Blowhard Airbrusher who thinks each sentence deserves to be a paragraph. Take your pick.
shareQueen is grandiose and wishing against hope. billbrown is dishonest enough to make himself appear right (thru editing) after realizing or worrying that his initial claim isnt panning out. The Grandiose Deflector who should think a little longer before predicting vs the Blowhard Airbrusher who thinks each sentence deserves to be a paragraph. Take your pick.I don't have to pick or side with either. BillBrown and Queen have their own "thing" with each other, against each other and apparently you've been sucked in to trying to figure out "Who shot john"?
Huh? You're the one who just jumped in to impugn Queen by giving me all this info about socks and other history, yet you say I'm sucked in? You did pick a side. The dishonest editor is ok with you. You made it clear from the start that Queen is worse. I was the one saying they both pounce before the opportunity vanishes -- after the other guy was picking a side. You're both Team Brown. I'm Team Neither.
and brown didnt edit in exchanges with me. I havent had any exchanges with him. I replied to Queen once to question how they were arriving at a breakeven BO number for Shazam. That's the extent of my interactions. I just happened to see a line, that I just read, in an old brown post, magically transform before my eyes, after a refresh. Just dumb luck to be there at the moment when he was making some adjustments to history. That's all. I knew Queen was telling the truth about the editing b/c I had just seen it myself.
And congrats on using quote tags. Tell billbrown how to use them b/c he doesnt seem to know despite Queen quotes being the cornerstone of his page long screeds.
" I just happened to see a line, that I just read, in an old brown post, magically transform before my eyes, after a refresh. Just dumb luck to be there at the moment when he was making some adjustments to history. That's all. I knew Queen was telling the truth about the editing b/c I had just seen it myself."
THANK YOU, dmac8!
Glad someone else has seen billbrown...ermmm…"in action". When he did it in my instance he invited me to reread his posts like I was too stupid to not know what I had read just a couple of days before.
And you're right...I don't "airbrush" my posts or threads. EVERYTHING is still on this board as the day I posted it...warts and all.
So you've got a beef with BillBrown too?
Impugn is a very nice word but it was the veracity of YOUR comments that I was challenging and I challenge you to dispute any of my comments about QueenFanUSA and you are free to search through my postings about, to or with Queen and you will easily see that I have no problem backing up any observations or statement that I have made about him or about what he posts.
I will say it again, Queen harping on edited posts is a deflection from his own failings and flailing to craft a response to his many, many fails. I don't care who is wrong or right as to what was or what was not edited. If you need to tell BillBrown how to use quotes you are free to tell him directly.
My pet peeve with BillBrown, besides the verbosity and length of his postings with Queen is, though highly entertaining, the non-stop use of "your" for "you're".
Because he is speaking about the actions of another individual it is used (or misused) a LOT!!
I've told him about that too. Knock yourself out on calling him out as a what, liar, hypocrite, prevaricator, con-man?
What comments? You mean my broad statement about both? I didnt dispute what you said, how could I? It's clear that you're stuck on Queen's chapter and verse so much more than I. So I took it on faith even though I probably should not have. I even used your words in my mock label. So I dont know why you're puffing out your chest and challenging me? But you gave brown a nearly complete pass. You couldnt be more one-sided in your 1st response. How does brown's blatant dishonesty inspire only a ho hum from you? Calling the editing a deflection doesnt make it less creepy. Your and You're is a pet peeve but editing after the fact doesnt bother you simply b/c Queen mentions it? It tells me you cant trust him either. All you say about Queen doesnt change the fact that brown practices his own fraudulent behavior. It seems it only bothers you when you think Queen is doing it. That's odd. If they're both dishonest trolls who tweak each other, they've both fallen below a line.
shareDMAC8 allow me to reset. I have no quarrel with you whatsoever.
I am not stuck on QueenFanUSA's position on anything. I took umbrage only with your comments as to both sides. I believe that NOT to be the case which is why I spoke up. I have no need to puff my chest or beat a dead horse which is QueenFanUSA's feelings on Disney. I don't care about BillBrown and the mystery of the edited posts. It is neither the end or the beginning of this long running beef between he and Queen. I stand by that it is nothing more than a distraction and not the "Gotcha" that QueenFanUSA makes it out to be! Most posters NOT named BillBrown will probably continue to call out QueenFanUSA for his many, many attempts to deride and troll Disney/Marvel for the one issue that he cherishes dearly, ROI in the film side only. He just articulates his position with bias.
If BillBrown edited his posts and you have proof I'm not sure what you want anyone to do about that. Ban him? Take away his posting privileges? Limit his postings to 10 words or less?
We both have the power to add them to our ignore list right now. In fact, I'm surprised, with this laundry list of bad antics, including dishonesty, you and this gaggle of other Queen haters wouldnt have him on ignore already. I think I will do just that -- but I'll include billbrown as well, since he's of the same ilk, imho. Never really that much of a problem, but solved now anyway, right? No need to take umbrage as I will dare not comment on this again.
shareIn fact, I'm surprised, with this laundry list of bad antics, including dishonesty, you and this gaggle of other Queen haters wouldnt have him on ignore already.Ohhhhhhhh, there is an Evil Cabal terrorizing QueenFanUSA? A gaggle of Haters? No DMAC8, Queen doesn't have that kind of presence or cache that would earn him "Haters". He just doesn't have that type of legitimacy that would warrant, "Haters". That's funny!
Evil Cabal? Very dramatic! Even saying he has haters is giving him too much credit? Wow! I guess it's just a bunch who keep congratulating each other for their latest dissections of a troll who they could've blocked long ago. What do they call that when people follow every minute of a show they dislike, so they can rip apart how bad it is online somewhere? Hate watching or something? Clearly, he's accumulated a loyal audience who follow his every word (much more than I ever have). So stay tuned, he might post another one. And if "your" really lucky, you'll get some brown posts too!
shareAre you advocating to be QueenFanUSA's consigliere?
Evil Cabal, Legion Of Doom, Gaggle of Haters, Illuminati, or maybe, just maybe some anonymous posters replying to QueenFanUSA.
Speaking for myself, as if I could speak for anyone else besides my kids at this point, I don't Hate Queen at all. If you feel posters are "Hating" on Queen that is very interesting.
I don't dislike QueenFanUSA either.
Being on a movie message board site you are going to come across a persistent poster that interjects a post on a board for a film that you might also be interested in. I don't comment on films, products, actors or celebrities that I have no interest in and neither do I rise, or lower the conversation to a level of commenting on things that I dislike. I don't Hate watch because you'd have to Hate follow I guess.
I guess you feel that posters are Hate following Queen around various boards? Queen interjects himself and decides to leave certain amounts of poop on boards. One person's Bon Mot is another person's Poop. When called to clean up his poop.....? Well that's another story.
Queen invites people to his party with such things as, Stay Tuned, Get your popcorn guys, etc and he cries out for attention. BillBrown is his most ardent exchanger and will methodically retrace Queen's misstatements small and large with tenacity followed by details, and more details, and did I mention details?
Can't speak for whomever you are referring to but I don't and I'm not sure anyone else follows Queen's every word (maybe except BillBrown), but Queen does put a lot of stuff out there that people do try to call him on and hold him accountable.
https://moviechat.org/tt4154664/Captain-Marvel/5c3408bbe58dd36c94b0f249/This-aint-no-Wonder-Woman-box-office-wise?reply=5c428ca66bb4fa483111cbea
Love many hate few always paddle your OWN canoe.
More rehashing Queen's behavior? You've made it clear over and over. I believe you. I never disputed your claims -- yet you cant help explaining all he does to me. I'm sorry I triggered you by making a seemingly innocuous generalization about these comic book studio wars people have here. What I said isnt false. It's just the matter of degree in what Queen does vs others is an obsession for you and the crew. As for inviting everyone, does he really have that power over y'all? If you put his poop on ignore, you dont have to smell it. I mean what's the pay off in holding him "accountable" aside from the kinda backslapping from ranmast and ultravioletx I see below?
And yea, BillBrown does that -- but also makes his own counterclaims and predictions in the process. But harder for anyone to methodically retrace those details and hold them to account when they strangely disappear or are altered to conform to the reality of what actually wound up happening. But I know, I know. That doesnt matter b/c... Queen this, Queen that, and Queen the other thing.
QueenFanUSA is the driver, the instigator and the provocateur in all of this. IN his own postings he is a dishonest broker of information in delivering his predictions, assessments and finally opinions. If you ask him to provide a link, a quote and or an article to back up some of his positions he will never return to the subject.
DMAC! My man! How you doing and how is the QueenFanUSA advocacy going? Does he need a support group to counterbalance the obsession of moi and the crew? You really triggered me with the triggering phrase of the seemingly innocuous generalization about these comic book studio wars!!. That was some good ferreting out and that sleuthing you did by finding out the secret handshaking and backslapping of Ultravioletx and ranmast? That was legendary, legendary! It reminded me of Elmer Fudd hunting for that wascally wabbit!!
By the by, the payoff is nothing more than a simple immersion in that layer of entertainment that emanates from the movie industry and discussing such with others. Box office discussion is just a small sliver of that. Open and factual discussion can be fun and informative. Take a position, back it up and own it.
I don't have a troll list and why do I need to Block or Ignore anyone? Save that arrow for your own bow. I don't require it.
If by advocacy you mean I dont display the level of condemnation you clearly demand for this poster who has set up shop in your mind, I guess I'm guilty in this kangaroo court. But I've kept this brief so as not to waste time that you could better spend monitoring for inconsistencies while writing off your own. Keep'em accountable! That'll show'em! You wont get any change in behavior from a troll, but hey, maybe you'll get some more high fives from the rest of the swarm? You must feel so much pride when that happens. I can tell from the gracious "thank you" replies you give in return. You did it!
shareAside from Queen mentioning the editing, I saw it with my own eyes.
^^^
could you please explain exactly what YOU saw with your own eyes....
again NOT what queen said, but could please specifically tell me what you read that I posted, and then what YOU SAW that you claim I changed it too?
NorrinRad, let me salute you, my friend... Words with more true have not been spoken (written) in this board.
There are no exaggerations in people calling Queen lies, half trues and skewed predictions. Just look this last post of Queenie, where we are discussing now, it is a complete misinterpretation of facts. There is nothing stellar in a 53% increase for a Tuesday when some college and school are out. And anyone can see this by seeing the jumps of every movie which are between the 45% - 55% expected for such discount Tuesday.
Stellar is what Captain Marvel did yesterday. It made more on this Monday than it did on the last. It was a minimal increase, but that was not expected. The expected behavior is to decrease, when comparing one day of the week with the same day the preceding week. But Queen keeps misinforming and trying to fool everyone, but everyone does not believe in his lies and knows Queen is a fraud...
Thank you. I truly consider that an extreme compliment and your response was a complement to my own words and on QueenFanUSA.
Box office of course is a tiny, tiny side part of the conversation audiences have about movies and it can be an invigorating discussion with information being exchanged about the movie industry. If QueenFanUSA would just drop the agenda and discuss his comparative box office performance objectively there could be some lively debate on this topic. I don't know what Disney did to him as a child but it must have been devastating.
He claims off and on that Disney is his favorite company. Go figure!
Excellent post. Just like Bubba and the rest of them Queen has no interest in real discussion or debate. Queen is here to lie, misconstrue, fabricate, whatever it takes to put WB/DC ahead of Disney/Marvel. It goes beyond trolling to the point of sickness of the head.
You can tell by billbrown's long-winded posts that he too is not all there in the head. But I see him as more of a victim. He'll go back and forth with Queen because Queen has him trapped without him ever realizing it. billbrown is feeding Queen exactly what he wants.
Thank you for the compliment and yes there is a odd degree of testy comradery between those two and they definitely feed off of each other.
I swear though that QueenFanUSA seems awfully a lot like an IMDB poster named AH_Fan or some such alias who had the exact same posting tactics as Queen.
Aaaaannnnd we get another nice pop on the second Tuesday with a stellar 53% Monday-to-Tuesday jump...and here's the most important number that has a lot of people in the industry smiling...a mere 35% decline from last Tuesday's surge.
Well over 3.2 million...which is more than the next two films on the chart combined.
I'm well aware that Universal has another red hot, low budget release on their hands in Little.
You would do well to check out the thread I started on the Little page.