These guys and more are holding some sort of press conference today. The rumor is they're doing some sort of union. I guess Rebney (the ex BellaTor CEO) is also involved.
They have a good fighter backing... they have BIG names.
Anyone think they get a UFC smacking?
There will be backlash.
Thoughts?
Very interesting. What do Dana and crew care. They about to be outy five-thousand!
"Hi, excuse me. Can you use your karate to open up this pickle jar?"
The hand over is done. I bet, and this is my opinion, that Dana has to play this cool. His job might be tied to his reaction. I don't think he can F bomb his way out of this one. They also can't "fire" or "suspend" these guys because they're all too big to go any other place. Top ranked, fan favourites...smart move fellas...smart move.
shareIf it is indeed for a fighters' union, it goes to show just how much of a bullying obstacle Zuffa has been for fighters' rights. The second Zuffa is out of the picture, negotiations begin immediately.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
IMO Just a horrible Decision...
I'm all for A Fighters Association...I just think its I terrible Idea to start another off the heal of Jeff Boris's MMAFA
I've listen and Read what Jeff Boris wants to do...Its literally perfect..He's A Massive Agent
IMO Its completely counter Productive for these knew fighters to start A NEW Union/Association...
A Union/Association Needs at least 30% of all UFC fighters to sign and agree they want Them to collectively bargain for them, thats going to be difficult for ANY 1 UNION...
But almost impossible if you HAVE 2 UNIONS trying to do it at The same time...
These Fighters(Cain,TJ,Cowboy,Kennedy and GSP) should have went all in With Jeff Boris's MMAFA instead of starting a new one, now you got 2 competing Unions BOTH trying to get 30% of fighters, which will make it impossible
Boris may get 20 % and The New one headlined by The fighters might get 15% and It would result in neither getting the amount they need, but had they just came together they would have easily got The 30%...
Now some may read this and immediately well, maybe The New Fighters association headlined by the figters is better or mybe they dont agree With what the MMAFA'a headlined by Boris is asking...and I have one simple answer to that...READ Boris's list of Goal's...there is a leaked report outlining what Boris is going to bargain for and Its Absolutely Fanatic...
I really dont see how any MMA fighter could read this list, read what he's trying to and NOT get behind it....
if you read it, You'll really start to question why These fighters started this new Association rather than to just support Boris's...
I get that they say they've been working on it for 2 years, So I'm sure they dont just wont to give it up, But once Boris announced The MMAFA 6 months ago and then once they read his list of goals, They should have scrapped the idea of starting A new Association and Immediately got on Board With Jeff.
I dont want to say they are doing it for "Fame or attention", I'm sure they deeply care, But I got to Question if they are looking for "History" here, If they want to go down as the people who "Started and changed" MMA and Created A Union, Instead of Joining A Union...
If you really understand how A collective Bargaining works, and These 5 fighters have to if they are serious about starting A Union, Then They Literally have to know they are actually hurting the chances of bringing the fighters together...They have to know its going to be difficult enough to get 30% of the fighters on board if there was ONLY 1 union, but Now with them starting A 2nd one, again Its going to be almost impossible...
Now The Fight for a ighters union is not only fighting the UFC(which is going to discourage fighters and Put fear in Fighters to join) but they are also fighting each other by competing to get 30% of fighters Signatures...
They have to know this, they have to know they are completing against Another Association and thats going to make it almost impossible to get the 30% needed thus killing any chance at an association...
and given that they have to know this, I find it extremely odd that they didn't get on board With Boris, again its like "They want the credit of changing MMA" rather than simply joining and being part of a group that changes MMA.
here are the list of goal's Boris wants to bargain for-
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/alleged-pfa-document-details-goals-for-fighter-organizing
Most are perfect, there are a few that wont work or would need to be tweaked
Anyone think they get a UFC smacking?
There will be backlash.
I can take absolutely nothing you say seriously because:
A: Your writing is terrible and is too wordy.
B: It is BORRIS not "Boris".
C: Everything you wrote is wrong. BORRIS did not start the MMAFA he started the PFA. MMAFA was started a few years ago. The new one is called MMAAA or something and apparently Borris is on board with them. Plus, PFA just lost a high profile lawyer.
I can take absolutely nothing you say seriously because:
A: Your writing is terrible and is too wordy.
dude nobody reads your posts. Their long and repetitive and every sentence for the most part repeats what the last sentence said. aand its long as f--k.
"Hi, excuse me. Can you use your karate to open up this pickle jar?"
He can't stop repeating himself, and he can't stop randomly capitalizing letters. Any mentally capable person would immediately recognize those flaws as they were happening and would fix them on the spot, but for whatever reason he can't, and his excuse is it's just the way he is. His posts and attitude scream out autism spectrum, though maybe just a mild case of Asperger's. No insult intended, just being honest here.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
-Lucas Middlebrook was the lawyer who represented Nick Diaz during the NSAC hearings. Until recently, Middlebrook and fighter Leslie Smith were involved with Professional Fighters Association (PFA).
-Robert Maysey founded Mixed Martial Arts Fighters Association (MMAFA) about 10 years ago. MMAFA is involved with the current lawsuit against Zuffa/UFC/WME-IMG.
It makes sense to me. A bunch of high-profile fighters have joined together to use their clout to spearhead an association of their own, rather than hop on board someone else's unknown association. If I was a pro fighter, that's how I'd do it.
Rebney is a bit of a concern, but I guess he's got rapport with a bunch of fighters. I don't know enough about Borris other than he's an agent for the Diaz brothers.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.