Just started watching UFC and MMA as a whole. I remember when one of the fighters I supported loss and I would be disapointed. That was over 10 years ago. Connor got chicken choked and his supporters keep me on their speed dial. Thats like the 4th thread Ive gotten dedicated to me after either a fighter I like lost or Conor won. Im trending
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I just wanna see Conor fight someone with some goddamn range. That's two titles he's won against smaller guys who prefer to strike and have a 69 inch reach.
I complained about Conor not defending his 145 belt, but in all honesty, there's nothing for him there. If he fights Aldo again, he uses his range to put Aldo in the corner. Edgar? Lamas? Stephens? All stuck in the corner. I just hope now that Conor has the 155 strap that we'll get to see him defend it against people that aren't cherry-picked for Conor's style. Now the question is, does Conor want to defend it against guys like Ferguson, Barboza or Cerrone? Is he up to the challenge of Khabib? I really hope a third fight with Nate isn't the best we can hope for. And if Conor does go up to 170, I feel like it's his retirement fight.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
I think you are overlooking Showtime did in fact drop down in weight to 145. Interesting that Bendo, Cerrone, El Nino, Masvidal and Showtime have either when up or down in weight class or out of the UFC all together.
As for Eddie well he had his shot. If he could have done better he would have. Still hat does not excuse the fact that Conor leap frogged some very stiff competition to get a title fight against another champion without defending his 145 title where he was active in that weight than in LW. He held off defending his 145 title by fighting Nate Diaz(a LW)2 times at 170 and so claims he fights at all weights. Quite deceiving but if UFC fans don't care then it no issue. It was a super fight(not so super)and Conor won. Now it sounds like he dosent want to get knocked off the mountain and may just go ahead and retire to keep his title run intact at this point.
Will he fight Khabib? Ferguson? Defend his FW title or try to fight at 170? Dana said TW vs WB 2 so a possible Cerrone match may still be in the stars.
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I would hope Khabib gets a shot, he has a great streak. Conor's ego should want to take that down.
I want to see Khabib beat him.
He sort of cleared out the 145lb division, even with the new challenges none of those guys have a streak. He needs to defend in 155 since he only fought Diaz and Eddie, way more competition. A champion defends the belt at least one time, winning it does not make a person the champ to me.
Yeah he fought Diaz but not at 155.
I did say something a while back about Conor at 155 might be the best Mcgregor version and the ace in the whole that no one has seen yet.
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Yeah I know the Diaz fight was at 170, so technically he only fought Eddie at 155. Diaz is a 155er so I counted him.
Maybe Conor fights Pettis at 145, but I'm not sold on it until he starts saying that's what he wants. Conor looks too good at 155, and I bet he's not crazy making that insane cut just for Pettis or even an Aldo rematch. Conor beats them all at 145 anyway. 155 is where the real challenges are, and might even be healthier since he doesn't have to turn himself into a skeleton to make that weight.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
New Video Tito
This is from 2 hardcore MMA Fans who's Been doing a podcast for at least 6 years(Basically they are NOT NEW to MMA, NOT Just "Band Riders" and are NOT Uneducated)
and They ask the question "Is Conor the greatest fighter in UFC history"
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd to Your Horror Tito...one says yes he the Greatest Fighter ever now after winning 2 belts in 2 different weight classes at the same time.
and the other says He's top 10, probably top 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbQDGroUTqY
^Part where they specifically going into detail discussing Conor's Place among the greatest UFC fighters of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3swr4jDsBE
^Full Podcast
lol Again Just Posting this NOT become I agree with Them, but ONLY to Obliterate Your Pathetic and DESPERATE attempt to categorize everyone who likes Conor or Thinks he's great as "New to MMA band riders and Uneducated" ...yet Again I post another video, where LIFELONG MMA Fans,fighters,coaches and Analysts Praise Conor....
PS for anyone who reads, I highly recommend these guys podcasts, I've been watching them for years, Their quite funny, Both Massive MMA fans, BOTH have been training MMA for awhile now and even train at a major Gym where they interview UFC fighters and Trainers.
here is their Main Page - http://mmanuts.com/category/podcast/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crvnCa9B1pA-New Sig
lol so were back to "Calling everyone who likes Conor Idiots or uneducated fans"
lol desperate times calls for desperate measures...
but I got to tell you, at this Point the joke is on you, tito...
Its now turned, now the majority makes fun on YOU...Now The majority looks at people like you as IDIOTS for refusing to except Conor's greatness...
Yes there was a time when, Conor was just all talk, when people questioned him...But that is gone now, now its undeniable and people just feel sorry for people like you who refuse to admit...
lol here, here are 2 videos where MMA Analysts and Fighters talk about how SAD you have to be not to acknowledge what Conor is doing, They specifically go into to detail how you have to Literally be Crazy,Blind and fueled by hatred not to except what Conor is doing now..
here is video #1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzKcMYQzbhE
I would suggest watching from 1:30 To 15:00-Its where he's discussing Conor's greatness and The fight- but I know that Will kill you and you wont want to listen to that.
so here are the parts where he specifically talk about How PATHETIC YOU ARE Tito-
starting at 4:25 To 5:00, He goes into detail how SAD YOU are tito, goes into detail how pathetic you have to be to continue to be One of those people who still holds out and wont except what Conor is doing, lol in fact he specifically says "You need to stop watching MMA, The sport is NOT for you if you can't except and at least acknowledge what Conor is doing"
and then again from 7:45 To 8:45- He talk about about "how Its time to give up and except it, who does Conor have to beat before you admit he's good"
and here is video 2-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38dzqpbR2ww
Starting at 4:05 To 5:05...Kenny and Jon talk about You and Your "Small Vocal Minority" who refuse to except Conor Greatness, They talk about how "Mind Numbing" it is that You are this dumb and SAD
This ^ is You now...You are now in this Weird, Hated fueled Minority that refuse to except what Conors doing...You now are being laughed at and made fun...lol Its completely flipped...
before The Majority thought Conor was all talk, thought he wasn't going to do anything he said, Before The Majority was on your side Doubting Conor...Now Its completely flipped...Now Conor has done every single thing He said he was going to do, and The Majority now laughs, makes fun of and Literally feels sorry for people like you Tito who are "Bitter Enders" who just refuse to except it...
lol so again I say, The Joke is on you...lol the days of claiming Conor's fans are delusional and uneducated are over, The days of making excuses for every fight and win he has is over...Because NOW It ONLY makes you look bad ...It only makes you look like a desperate "Bitter Ender" who refuses to except what the majority NOW EXCEPTS...
thats no exaggeration TITO...The Majority now feels PITY for you...they literally feel sorry for you that you continue to hate to the bitter end...and I just find that hilarious, that Conor by backing up every single thing he's ever said has actually now pushed you to a point where YOU LOOK LIKE An IDIOT...
The Majority now just looks at you, and thinks "Dear god what does Conor have to do?"...Your really this delusional that you still wont except it? ...I mean you talk about Conor's fans being dumb and Uneducated, But thats now Been flipped on you...You now have MMA Analysts and fighters saying "If you can't recognize and except what Conor is doing, Maybe this Sport isn't for you"
I find that Poetic...especially toward you Tito...because you truly have been on a kick where you say "Conor's fans are dumb and uneducated"...and in the end Conor has now been so successful that He now makes you look Dumb,biased and uneducated for continue to hold out
anywho I just wanted to point out, You are now the JOKE...You are now part of a Small "Vocal Minority"(named by Jon Anik) called "Bitter Enders" that are now laughed and mocked by The Majority for not excepting the truth
PS, Please dont come back with, I didn't watch the videos, I know you'll at least watch the Moments I marked...
If you do come back with I didn't watch the video, Then I'll just Quote exactly what was said in the videos in the marked moments So you can then read them and feel SHAME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
EDIT:
another video of An MMA Analysts, saying they feel sorry for people like you Tito that can't except whats happening...
your literally Now seen as SAD, Pathetic "Bitter Enders" who can't see reality due to Your hatred for Conor Mcgregor...
lol instead want to say "Nope , Conor and his fans are uneducated, Nothing he's done is impressive, I have an excuse for every win of his"
but luckily that has changed, now your opinions about Conor are seen as Uneducated, Hate Fueled, and people actually feel sorry for you that you could be this dumb and this biased...
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/11/14/13618640/the-mma-hour-with-john-kavanagh-in-studio-demian-maia-in-studio-tyron
Listen at 13:25 to 14:00-lol Ariel literally say he feels SORRY FOR YOU!
Listen from 9:00 to 14:00- lol , I'm sorry but its over For You and your kind...The Majority now gives him the credit he deserves...
If you want to continue to live in a fantasy world where nothing Conor does is impressive and Its only uneducated Fans that likes Conor and thinks he's great, fine that you right...
but Just know, for The Majority, Its done, Last night Set his legacy in stone...The Majority now completely disagrees with your "Hate fueled opinions", The Majority no longer looks for any excuse for every Conor win, The Majority no longer sees Conor's fans as uneducated,...The Majority see YOU as UNEDUCATED, They see you and feel sorry for you that Your hatred is so deep you can't except whats right in front on you...
and again let me be specific...You dont have to like Conor, you can root against him and hate him...you can hate his fans...
But you just can't lie anymore...You can't Say Your Opinion's about Conor like they are fact.
I know it doesnt matter what Conor does, You'll never change or except what he's doing...
You will always have an excuse for why your not impressed, You'll always move the goal post once he accomplishes things that bother you, You'll always try to make it sound like ONLY Conor's fans think he's great and its because they are "Brand wagon riders and uneducated"
But all of those things are now LIES...They are not what The Majority believes...
You now are part of a Small Minority...who can't except the truth because you hate Conor...
So you've got to at least admit that...
when you talk about Conor now, when you know your about to lie, when you know your about to say something that the majority clearly doesn't agree with, you need to say "IN MY OPINION"...
lol in the coming weeks when you try to discredit Conor's win over Eddie, whatever excuse you think of, You need to say IN MY OPINION before you say that excuse and the reason is, The Majority will not agree with you or your excuse, The Majority now gives Conor the credit he deserves...whatever excuse you come up with for why You dont think its impressive that Conor beat Eddie, The Majority will laugh at you and feel sorry for you for having to stoop so low so you dont have to except the truth...
lol Your hatred for Conor now comes with a price, now because Conor has been so successful and has backed up everything he's said, now that he's made history...you know look like an idiot for CONTINUES to hold out to the bitter end...before it was 50/50, you could say Hate fueled things and get away with it because The Majority wasn't sold or convinced yet, Conor hadn't backed it up yet...Now Its over, He's done it, The Majority now excepts and sees what is in front of them and now YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT for holding out and refusing to acknowledge it, Now you look pathetic for always having an excuse and always moving the goal posts
Conor literally OWNED by being so successful ...You now look like A Hate fueled, Bitter Ender that simply refuses to except the truth...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
Hey Bill it's kinda funny at first, but honestly you've gone too far man.
I mean what's more weird...
Tito's hate of Conor
or
your hate and obsession of Tito's, a normal guy on a messages board, hate of Conor?
Your starting to put your yourself in a "Buffalo Bill" area. I'm sort of nervous you might try to make a TVJ suit or something.
See this is all back lash from Conor talking so much sh!t his fans think they can do it to. I see Conor imitating the Diaz bros. And I laugh. Youre nothing. You have no insite or personal opinion, it shows in your long winded boring repetetive posts.
I cant help but notice that Conor shut his yapity trap after Diaz chicken choked him. Its been nice and peaceful and humble since Diaz represented. And now that conor is running his mouth again it tells me one thing. Hes done. He wont be defend the titles.
See youre a Conor fan. Im an MMMA fan. Big difference. You couldnt wait to start a thread about me cuz I dont like McGregor and it threatens you. Youre scared of me. Youre prolly shaking in you boots right now. So you team up with your butt buddy and try to diss me but you two are so busy blowing Conor you 2 missed the whole card.
See as I dont like McGregor that fight wasent entertaining to me. It wasent. Am I heartbroken cuz Alvarez lost? Hardly. Ive been a dedicated MMA fan going on 20 years now. You think I havent seen my share of fighters dominate qnd get dominated? Win everything and lose it all? Tell me how could Conor winning 2 belts ever be bigger to me than Minotauro becoming the first HW to hold a title in both Pride and the UFC? How can I ever be more devastated then when Mir broke Minotauros arm?
I can tell youre a newbie cuz youre still but hurt from Diaz putting a whoopin on your love muffin and youre still trying to take it out on me. Its only fair Conor fans step up and fund the UFC. The rest of have been keeping the UFC and MMA alive since the Lions Den. Since Jeremy Horn. Back when Hendo, Lindland and Couture ran Team Quest. Since Sakuraba fought in the UFC. Since Bang beat Genki Sudo. Since head kicks were illegal. Since STank was losing at the finals. Since Harold Howard! What makes you think a guy beating smaller guys then hanging on to the belt and never defending it so he can say he has 2 belts is gona impress me? Really. Only ppl impressed by that are Mcnugget fans and ppl who just started watching last week. History....lol.
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I keep seeing people mention Cerrone, he doesn't have a reach either, 69inches despite being an even 6ft tall. I honestly would favor a Bendo over Conor, but only if Henderson kept his hands up for a change, he has this terrible habit of keeping his hands low to draw in his opponents or he's pulling his hair back.
Barboza would be interesting, his own striking is formidable, has a small advantage in reach and relies on his kicks more than Conor. It would also be contested almost entirely on the feet as neither would want the fight to go to the ground unless some desperate takedown attempt occurs.
I'd even favor Michael Johnson over Conor, assuming he'd mixed his attack up more and not try to trade with Conor.
Khabib is a gigantic lightweight, ridiculous grappler, but he has no stand up and I don't know how many clean shots he would be able to take from Conor trying to close the distance.
I think Khabib can take a shot. Johnson clicked him...it hurt but he took it. RDA was also destroyed by Khabib. I think that if Khabib cuts off the cage and forces Conor to work it will be a long day for Conor.
I think Conor's kicks will be stupid to use against Khabib and I think if Khabib pressures Conor that Conor will gas in the 3rd. Khabib can continue his pressure for days and Conor can't run forever.
I'll give the fact that Conor is fast and that Khabib hasn't gone 5 rounds...I just don't think Conor can handle the wrestling and power of Khabib.
I think people also tend to forget that Khabib is a Combat SAMBO champion. That's basically MMA with a gi jacket on...it is a rough sport and my guess is the training in Russia is no joke. I've rolled with a SAMBO guy...they don't understand the term "flow roll".
I think Conor destroys Johnson.
Fact is the LW division was staked and still is and Conor fought none of them. I have to think since Conor is so buddy buddy with Dana that they had inside information. He did the same thing in that back woods org he used to fight in before the UFC. Won the FW title then won the LW title then bounced out. I don't see him fighting anymore and if he does I don't see him picking a formidable opponent. His sh!t obviously backfired when he chose Nate to move up in weight. He chose a guy that won and lost about even, was out of shape and not on Danas good side. Dana thought he was gonna kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Remember all that talk about Nate training for a triathlon then go find out he was on the couch when he got the call?
Remember how Nick used to disrespect his opponents have a real deep hatred going on against him? Nick can say everything Conor says and more and they BURIED Nick the first and second time around for the same thing Conor says now. I understand Conor has a following but the cost has always been bury everyone else. They took away sponsorship and replaced it with the reebok deal, they hired Lesnar and CM Punk and paid them out the ass while other fighters got underpaid and shelved and buried only to find out rude and disrespectful has come full circle and is now the in thing?
If Conor fans can keep the industry going then great but it dosent seem to be the case. As soon as Conor feels hes done enough hes out like Rousey and so are his fans then the true MMA fans have to fit the bill again. Really! Were still the ones watching the new talent. Were till the ones watching the "GREAT" fights. The interesting fights. Supporting the fighters that are the life blood of the industry. The money grabbers fleece the sport then run.
Show of hands which fight this weekend had you more interested? Which fight were you more amaze by? Were you more entertained by? Weidman/Romero, Woodly/Thompson, Edgar/Stephens, Kabib/Jhonson or McGregor Alvarez?
If I made at least more than 3 points in this post then I know the real fans want to get back to MMA on this board. I know the real fans want something more to post about than "Conor is so Great" then if anyone has a contradicting opinion gets harassed by a bunch of guys who don't know who Jeremy Stephens is. I don't want MMA to turn into boxing where its Mexicans against Filipinos and Black guys against White guys. "Oh he just wants to wrestle and hug, how boring." I'm done with all that and that's not what makes this sport great. Not what attracted me. Conor McGregor yelling dosent do it for me. Sorry. His best fight so far was Nate/McGregor 2 for me. Only time he showed some depth. And I know its not his fault his opponents don't match up to him but he obviously picks his opponents. He even said if they are smaller they stand no chance.
What I got out of UFC 205 is Romero is a beast at wrestling. Did you see him tool Weidman? Tripped then took his back like nothing. I was like WOW! And Khabib was just as impressive if not more. That guy is terrifying. He was pining down Johnsons limbs then beating in his face. That sub was so sick I thought he was gona Minotauro that guy. And the best part was he showed his respect to his opponent. He brought it back to a sport, not a trend. Not a dog fight or a cock fight. And McGregor fans, well you can see what attracts them. That aint for me.
Can We bring the board back now?
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I tried...to talk about the GSP stuff etc...no on bit...
I wanted to see how Khabib handled his fight last and I was even more impressed than I thought I'd be. He took a hard hit and kept it coming and then just put a beating on Johnson. If anyone missed that fight all I can say is Johnson has heart and Khabib took out rage on him and just beat the holy crap out of him...jesus.
I wish Cerrone and Brown were not fighting...as great as it actually is...I really like both fighters. So for this one I will be happy and sad at the end. I think if Brown loses he's about to retire.
I know I get that way about a lot of great fights and fighters but you gotta keep the doors open. These fighters have to constantly test themselves against great opponents hey have mutual respect for. Whats sad is Conors not on this card so no one will know how great either of these guys are. One of the greatest fights ever was Matt Brown vs Eric Silva. Real barn burner.For Cerrone was his match against Guiliard. another classic.
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New video TITO...
lol
In This one, its Joe Warren and Ben Askren's Podcast, They are talking to Big John McCarthy...
and Joe Warren says "Conor Mcgregor Definitely Showed me he's one the best fighters I've ever Seen in My Life"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiplhyKge7Q
Starts at 3:20^
Big John also goes on to say some Pretty great things about Conor
http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/conor-mcgregor/big-john-mccarthy-conor-mcgregor-man-can-fight/
“I know what the guy’s got. Everyone always wants to sit there and doubt someone as far as, ‘well…but, but, but,’ look. Conor McGregor has proved…the guy has got talent. He’s got power. His left hand hurts people all the time. The only guy that’s stayed up with that left hand, but was knocked down multiple times, was Nate Diaz. And who knocks Nate Diaz out? The only guy I’ve ever seen do it was Josh Thomson with a head kick, and that didn’t even put him out, it was the series after that. Look, Conor McGregor, whether you like him or you don’t like him, doesn’t matter. The man can fight.”
and Joe Warren says "Conor Mcgregor Definitely Showed me he's one the best fighters I've ever Seen in My Life"
New Video Tito
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-HXq4iSEsI
This one is from Ray Longo, Aljamain Sterling & Al Iaquinta....Of curse this important because, Ray Longo Is one of the best Coaches in all of MMA and Then You have 2 damn good fighters in Aljamain Sterling & Al Iaquinta , lol Basically Tito all 3 are the exact opposite of "NEW TO MMA and UNEDUCATED"...which again obliterates your SAD and DESPERATE attempt to categorize everyone who likes Conor or think he's great as "NEW TO MMA and UNEDUCATED Band Riders"
anyways they all 3 praise Conor and talk about how Great is he
It has to really kill you thats I've KILLED your Favorite Excuse doesn't tito...
I mean, This has to truly anger you, You have to sit back and think "fVck Billbrown, I had the perfect Excuse, I didn't have to except anything good about Conor, anytime someone said anything good about him, I could just claim "Nope, I'm smarter than you,I've watched MMA Longer than you, ONLY Conor Mcgregor Band Riders who are New to MMA and Uneducated think he's great...But God Damn!t Billbrown freaking ruined it...He's posted so many videos from The MMA Community, I'll now look like a Complete idiot If I use the same excuse and say I'm smarter than these LIFELONG MMA Fans,fighters,coaches and analysts, I'll look crazy if I claim all of these LIFELONG MMA Fans,fighters,coaches and analysts are ALL Conor Mcgregor Band Riders...and Daminit I certainly can't claim they are Uneducated....I HATE BILLBROWN, He Took My favorite excuse from me"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crvnCa9B1pA-New Sig
Lols you really seem to dislike this Tito guy
shareHave you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
Have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?
While I admit mma fans are probably the worst fans ever randomly hating crying and mocking fighters "fluke win!, ducking fighters! Fixed fight!! Only beat midgets!! Crap fighter!" Etc
or others just fanboying the *beep* out of fighters "goat, best ever, the king" etc
Why even bother entertaining someone who you think is just a crybaby hater or silly fanboy.
There are still lots of normal fans out there who don't live inside a fighters ass or randomly insult them and their abilities. The fans who like fighters because of their skills, don't just cheer for a dude because of the country he was born in and just enjoy watching every fighter go in there and Showcasing their awesome skills
Fact is the LW division was staked and still is and Conor fought none of them. I have to think since Conor is so buddy buddy with Dana that they had inside information. He did the same thing in that back woods org he used to fight in before the UFC. Won the FW title then won the LW title then bounced out.
H
e chose a guy that won and lost about even, was out of shape and not on Danas good side. Dana thought he was gonna kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Remember all that talk about Nate training for a triathlon then go find out he was on the couch when he got the call?
And I know its not his fault his opponents don't match up to him but he obviously picks his opponents. He even said if they are smaller they stand no chance.
Nate didn't ask the UFC to fight Conor after RDA pulled out. UFC and Conor asked Nate to take the fight on short notice. If they just kept their mouths shut and waited for RDA to heal up, nobody would've criticized Conor for not fighting. I still kinda wish it went down that way because we would've seen Conor vs RDA possibly followed by Conor vs Edgar.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
Technically, Nate asked for the fight in his post-fight after Johnson. He jumped in the I Want A Conor Fight line with everyone else, and he got it because the UFC knows he can move needles on short notice, despite what Dana says.
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Sex with animals? There's no time, man!
When RDA pulled out, Nate wasn't even prepared to make 155. He asked for a fight in the future, but not right then, and that's where Billbrown is saying Conor would've been criticized had he not fought anyone.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
Does he get the call had he not made that post-fight speech after the Johnson win, though? That's all I'm saying.
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Sex with animals? There's no time, man!
And 'despite what dana says' is just an admisson that Dana is willing to lie to get his results. Thats why they lied about Nate being in shape. They knew mma fans would back Nate but they had to have a reason why he was 170lbs. They had to have a reason Conor wasent fighting at 155 or 145. They neede a reason why they were justifying a super fight with all these fights in 155 lined up.
As it was RDA was the LWT champ, Eddie was #1 contender, Conor was 145 champ and Nate was on the couch in Cabo Wabo. They figured knock off Nate and justify a super fight without ever stepping in the 155 division but Nate ruined their plans.
To think Conors team dosent pick and chose who he will fight is ridiculous but Conor still needs to win the fights he is spotlighted in. Being favored does not mean you will hit the game winning shot at the championships but you can get a lot of turns and call can go your way if you are favored by the company.
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For the first (UFC 196) and second fight it was CONOR who asked for 170, not Nate. Nate wanted the first at 165. Conor wanted BOTH at 170.
Any idea that Nate was out of shape and that is why the fight was at 170 are all wrong.
Also, don't forget that Edgar And Aldo were asked 1st and turned down the UFC 196 fight (I think a couple others also).
But Nate was not in fighting shape but was ready to fight. Make that perfectly clear. He was not in training for a Triathlon but regularly trained for one in between fights. The claim that he was in training for one wen he got the call was an out n out lie propagated by the UFC hype machine to give the appearance that an out of shape fighter at short notice was not asked to step in then they tried to flip it and say Conor took the Nate fight at short notice at 170 cuz Nate couldn't make 155.
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I'm confused...
Isn't it common knowledge that Nate was on vacation and having drinks and wanted 165 as the fight weight? Conor wanted 170.
I'm lost.
I dont know about common knowledge, but the first reports were that Nate was training for a triathalon. I heard that from Joe. Then the wbole weight thing, Nate wanted 165 at short notice and Conor said 170 I dont care, then they spun it to Nate is a WW and Conor is fighting in all weight classes.
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Yeah sorta went like this
Conor was coming off a staph infection so he picked Nate as he thought it would be a easier fight and sell more.
Nate lied and said he was training for a triathlon so he would get the fight (according to Nate in a interview)
Nate wanted 165 Conor said f it 170
BAM fight is made Conor loses. All the video interviews and news articles are all online
But Nate was not in fighting shape but was ready to fight. Make that perfectly clear. He was not in training for a Triathlon but regularly trained for one in between fights. The claim that he was in training for one wen he got the call was an out n out lie propagated by the UFC hype machine to give the appearance that an out of shape fighter at short notice was not asked to step in then they tried to flip it and say Conor took the Nate fight at short notice at 170 cuz Nate couldn't make 155.
I'm confused...
Isn't it common knowledge that Nate was on vacation and having drinks and wanted 165 as the fight weight? Conor wanted 170.
I'm lost.
Michael Mardones @LayzieTheSavage
The offer isn't even in the ballpark of what it would take to get Nate to make 155lbs on two weeks.
lol It was Nates fault the fight took place at 170...Well, 165 was Nate's fault. The extra five pounds leeway that Conor gave him was all on Conor.
Nate needed the fight to be at 165 at the least because, like I said, he wasn't prepared to fight Conor (or anybody) at 155. Even though Conor trained to fight a different style fighter, he still had a full fight camp. Nate didn't, and beat him.
Now, there is a chance Nate could've made 155 if the UFC demanded it, assuming he pushed himself to the limit. For that much money, I could see him doing it, but I could also see him missing by four pounds. However, seeing as the UFC was out of options, Nate realized he had leverage, and used it to bring it up to 165.
The claim that he was in training for one wen he got the call was an out n out lie propagated by the UFC hype machine to give the appearance that an out of shape fighter at short notice was not asked to step in then they tried to flip it and say Conor took the Nate fight at short notice at 170 cuz Nate couldn't make 155.
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The offer isn't even in the ballpark of what it would take to get Nate to make 155lbs on two weeks.
They knew mma fans would back Nate but they had to have a reason why he was 170lbs. They had to have a reason Conor wasent fighting at 155 or 145. They neede a reason why they were justifying a super fight with all these fights in 155 lined up.
jesus tito, this is getting embarrassing, just do a little research...
thats all you had to do was just do a little research before making this statement and you would have seen its well documented why the fight was at 170.
Nate WAS 1000% the reason why The fight took place 170 NOT Conor.
when The UFC called Nate and offered him the fight with Conor, The offer was for the fight to take place at 155(Conor was already fighting RDA at 155, Conor was on point to fight at 155)...Nate was the one that REFUSED to fight at 155...
Nate first pushed for a catch weight at 160, Dana White Hated it, did not want to do it, Conor immediately agreed, But Dana didn't like it, finally Dana agreed and then Nate changed it AGAIN to 165, Dana was furious Did NOT want to do it, But Conor insisted and finally said "Tell him its at 170, just get it done"
like there is literally not even 1 thing remotely true about your statement, You completed made a lie in an attempt to make Conor look bad...
They knew mma fans would back Nate but they had to have a reason why he was 170lbs. They had to have a reason Conor wasent fighting at 155 or 145. They neede a reason why they were justifying a super fight with all these fights in 155 lined up.
Tito , Nothing about this ^is true, Literally ZERO....
Nate was 100% the cause of the fight NOT taking place at 155...Period, again It is well documented, If you took the time to do any research, you would have seen DOZENS of article all specifically reporting and detailing exactly how and why The fight took place at 170 and they all say It was Nate Diaz fault, He refused to fight at 155, asked for 160, Conor agreed, then Nate Changed it again to 165 and Conor finally said "make it 170, just get it done"
now to your other COMPLETELY MADE UP statement-
They neede a reason why they were justifying a super fight with all these fights in 155 lined up.
"Nate WAS 1000% the reason why The fight took place 170 NOT Conor."
Bill...no it was 1000% Conor for 170 on both fights. Nate did want 165, but Conor said 170. I also get why Conor said that. With the GSP rumors floating Conor wanted or may still wants that fight. Even if he said it out of being angry or frustration it does not matter.
This is easily searchable. The 1St fight would habe been a 165 pound catch weight BUT CONOR SAID 170. So that puts it on Conor NOT NATE. A 25 page badly worded word puke doesn't change that.
Possibly he was thinking of GSP, but I think he definitely had Robbie Lawler in mind back then as well.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
Nate didn't ask the UFC to fight Conor after RDA pulled out. UFC and Conor asked Nate to take the fight on short notice. If they just kept their mouths shut and waited for RDA to heal up, nobody would've criticized Conor for not fighting. I still kinda wish it went down that way because we would've seen Conor vs RDA possibly followed by Conor vs Edgar.
lol so I get where you were going, You thought you'd just throw out "Hey Conor picked Nate" in an attempt to try and suggest Conor picked an easy fight...
Fact is the LW division was staked and still is and Conor fought none of them. I have to think since Conor is so buddy buddy with Dana that they had inside information. He did the same thing in that back woods org he used to fight in before the UFC. Won the FW title then won the LW title then bounced out. I don't see him fighting anymore and if he does I don't see him picking a formidable opponent. His sh!t obviously backfired when he chose Nate to move up in weight. He chose a guy that won and lost about even, was out of shape and not on Danas good side. Dana thought he was gonna kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Remember all that talk about Nate training for a triathlon then go find out he was on the couch when he got the call?
Remember how Nick used to disrespect his opponents have a real deep hatred going on against him? Nick can say everything Conor says and more and they BURIED Nick the first and second time around for the same thing Conor says now. I understand Conor has a following but the cost has always been bury everyone else. They took away sponsorship and replaced it with the reebok deal, they hired Lesnar and CM Punk and paid them out the ass while other fighters got underpaid and shelved and buried only to find out rude and disrespectful has come full circle and is now the in thing?
If Conor fans can keep the industry going then great but it dosent seem to be the case. As soon as Conor feels hes done enough hes out like Rousey and so are his fans then the true MMA fans have to fit the bill again. Really! Were still the ones watching the new talent. Were till the ones watching the "GREAT" fights. The interesting fights. Supporting the fighters that are the life blood of the industry. The money grabbers fleece the sport then run.
Show of hands which fight this weekend had you more interested? Which fight were you more amaze by? Were you more entertained by? Weidman/Romero, Woodly/Thompson, Edgar/Stephens, Kabib/Jhonson or McGregor Alvarez?
If I made at least more than 3 points in this post then I know the real fans want to get back to MMA on this board. I know the real fans want something more to post about than "Conor is so Great" then if anyone has a contradicting opinion gets harassed by a bunch of guys who don't know who Jeremy Stephens is. I don't want MMA to turn into boxing where its Mexicans against Filipinos and Black guys against White guys. "Oh he just wants to wrestle and hug, how boring." I'm done with all that and that's not what makes this sport great. Not what attracted me. Conor McGregor yelling dosent do it for me. Sorry. His best fight so far was Nate/McGregor 2 for me. Only time he showed some depth. And I know its not his fault his opponents don't match up to him but he obviously picks his opponents. He even said if they are smaller they stand no chance.
What I got out of UFC 205 is Romero is a beast at wrestling. Did you see him tool Weidman? Tripped then took his back like nothing. I was like WOW! And Khabib was just as impressive if not more. That guy is terrifying. He was pining down Johnsons limbs then beating in his face. That sub was so sick I thought he was gona Minotauro that guy. And the best part was he showed his respect to his opponent. He brought it back to a sport, not a trend. Not a dog fight or a cock fight. And McGregor fans, well you can see what attracts them. That aint for me.
Tell me how could Conor winning 2 belts ever be bigger to me than Minotauro becoming the first HW to hold a title in both Pride and the UFC? How can I ever be more devastated then when Mir broke Minotauros arm?
He gets recognized but you have to do something respectable to get respect. Don't get it twisted. I still hold by the best fight he had was Nate/McGregor 2. His best opponent so far has been Nate. His good qualities so far have been making weight and a quick recovery between fights. What would you critique the greatest by?
How many titles? How many fights? How many wins, difficulty in opponents, overall dominance, real championship moments, was he ever even champion? Longevity, historic moments, what that fighter contributed to the sport. I don't know what Schaubs criteria for "Greatest" is. Sonnen..I think hes a little reluctant to name another guy who took away his win in the 5th round that he dominated 4 in then smashed him into a never was in the rematch. That's a name that isent mentioned but probably should if youre talking bout the Greatest. And then the Greatest on the era? What happened to that guy that was doing spinning elbows and face shattering elbow smashes? Submitting ex Champions left and right. That's the kinda guy you gotta say his name 3 times and he plows through a division legends then false on his own sword. Where would Schaub rank a guy like that in the greatest list?
Hers a funny one. If Rankings don't matter then why does pound for pound rankings matter? Who exactly gives a crap about hypothetical ranking if you don't even care about the real rankings. Lets see...Contender rankings not important pound for pound rankings important......uh Pound for pound rankings not important contenders ranking important... Somebodies heading for a disappointment. Somebody must have it backwards. Could it be....everybody?
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He gets recognized but you have to do something respectable to get respect. Don't get it twisted. I still hold by the best fight he had was Nate/McGregor 2. His best opponent so far has been Nate. His good qualities so far have been making weight and a quick recovery between fights. What would you critique the greatest by?
It's not the belt itself that matters, but what it represents. Remember, Big Nog got cheated out of a title fight when he fought a second interim fight. Couture had the belt, but because of all that legal bullshyt going on with him and trying to breach his contract to fight Fedor in Affliction, they put up the interim fight between Nog and Sylvia, and Nog won it. Was Nog's next fight for the real title like it should have been? Nope, it was an interim title defense against Mir with no hope of turning into the real title. A year later and Nog beat Couture but Couture had already lost the belt to Lesnar. So in that sense, the belt doesn't mean a damn thing. Couture straight-up dodged Nog because Couture and only wanted to lose his title against a high-profile opponent like Fedor or Lesnar.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
Talk about heart breaking loss. He had that fight. Mir dropped him good. Then hes kicking ass I the rematch all of a sudden his arm is broke. I still hate Mir till today. Oh and theres a guy Schaub might be reluctant to name the greatest. Came back from the broken arm and KOed Schaub in Brazil, down the street from his gym.
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just thought I'd post this to see if you had it to Your list of excuses in the future Tito...
http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/conor-mcgregor/conor-mcgregor-staph-infection-weeks-nate-diaz-fight/
lol You have no problem listing Excuses for Conor's wins like The Mendez fight...
but you conveniently leave out anything Conor related, With Mendez you like to claim "Its not impressive because Mendez took the fight on 2 weeks notice", but you intentionally leave out "Conor also took the fight on 2 weeks notice With A TORN ACL"
lol now I'm sure in the future you'll have plenty of excuses for Conor wins, but I bet you wont ever once mention This ^
anywho again, just wanted to point out your BIASED..in the future, when you make excuses, I'm gonna get great joy in the fact that You'll go to extreme lengths to think of and mention Any and all Excuses for all of Conor Wins...But You wont dare even whisper "There may actually have been A excuse/contributing factor for Conor's one loss"
its going to be quite funny seeing you constantly post excuses for Conor's wins and then Intentionally not mentioning this...
I can see it now....
Tito saying "Conor clearly 100% would have lost to Mendez had Mendez had a full camp, Chad taking the fight on ONLY 2 weeks is 100% responsible for why he lost"
different poster says "Ok but if you feel that way, dont you think Conor having Staph then might have played in to his loss in the Diaz fight"
Tito "Nope, thats just an excuse, Conor lost fair and square how dare you suggest anything differently"
Different Poster "but didn't you just do the same thing, didn't you just make an excuse for Mendez"
Tito "ya but my excuse makes sense, Mendez not having a full training camp badly effected his cardio"
Different Poster "But thats exactly what Staph does, It badly effects and trains your cardio, I'm sorry but if your going to use your excuse for Mendez and you also have to except The excuse for The Diaz fight"
Tito(silently thinks to himself, Sh!t he's right, GOD DAMNIT) tito then comes back with his only option "Nope your just A Uneducated Band Rider who's NEW to MMA"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
Damn, that's crazy. That said, I do remember him saying he could have pulled out because of some reason, but he never made the excuse, just fought anyway, took the loss, and never blamed the major cause. And add to the staph infection fighting at 170, the extra weight causing him to gas even quicker. What a stud. He fights with torn ligaments in his thumb, he fights with a torn ACL, he fights right after a staph infection. Even the Alvarez fight, he said he was having to ice his right hand in camp because of swelling. Nothing but respect for this guy...
shareHe gets recognized but you have to do something respectable to get respect. Don't get it twisted. I still hold by the best fight he had was Nate/McGregor 2. His best opponent so far has been Nate
I still hold by the best fight he had was Nate/McGregor 2. His best opponent so far has been Nate
I believe you misunderstood Tito's point, Nate isn't the best fighter Conor has faced, but that was the best fight, the most competitive fight he's had at this point. I could be wrong though.
shareNo Nate is not the best fighter but hes the best Conors ever faced in the UFC. Dont see how anyone can dispute that when Nates has submitted him, Rocked him, took him to tbe distance for a narrow win, the only fighter Conor has cared to rematch. How is this a false statement? Billabrown and his 5 paragraph essays of blowing smoke up peoples ass.
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Tell me how could Conor winning 2 belts ever be bigger to me than Minotauro becoming the first HW to hold a title in both Pride and the UFC? How can I ever be more devastated then when Mir broke Minotauros arm?
Tell me how could Conor winning 2 belts ever be bigger to me than Minotauro becoming the first HW to hold a title in both Pride and the UFC
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2 more videos for you Tito...
lol
Video1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41-mmLnchSw here Brain Stann says if Conor retired now and never fought Again, In his opinion Conor would go down as the 2nd greatest fighter of all time...
lol right after that, Kenny Florian suggest's Conor may be the best Martial Art's we've ever seen...
lol Video 2- http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/conor-mcgregor/video-chael-sonnen-conor-mcgregor-needs-recognized-greatest-fighter-ever-done/
Chael Sonnen says Conor is right now the greatest fighter of all time.
lol of course I'm only posting these for 2 reasons...
Reason 1, due to your deep hatred for Conor, I know it will kill you to hear/read/watch these great things being said about Conor...
reason 2- It kills your "The only people who think Conor is great are his uneducated fans" theory...You go to great lengths to suggest, Conor's fans are "New Band riders or are uneducated", You do this so you can "Put everyone who likes Conor and thinks he great into 1 group" and say they dont count because They are just fanboys...
well Thats over, lol you can't make that claim anymore, because You now have The Majority of MMA Analysts and fighters all universally recognizing Conor's greatness...Now YOU are The Uneducated, Biased "Bitter Ender" that refuses to except the truth due to your hatred
Sh!t--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAq3VDho1V8Another video just popped up , Here in this video, You have Matt Serra(who's been A Very Known Conor Hater for awhile) saying He'll have a hard time ever picking against Conor again, he then goes into detail how impressive Conor's win was, and how impressive his striking and timing is...
Let me guess? All 6 video's I've posted from MMA fighters and Analyst's dont matter right?
They are clearly all just "Uneducated Brand Riders" that are new to MMA and You clearly no more than them and are right about Conor and they are wrong right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
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Even if that were true, it shouldn't be seen as a negative. If you enjoy the sport, you should welcome new fans, not criticize them for getting on board. Lose the fans and we go back to that time 10 years ago when we weren't spoiled with numerous free cards, live prelims and MMA action available nearly every weekend.
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Sex with animals? There's no time, man!
Even if that were true, it shouldn't be seen as a negative. If you enjoy the sport, you should welcome new fans, not criticize them for getting on board. Lose the fans and we go back to that time 10 years ago when we weren't spoiled with numerous free cards, live prelims and MMA action available nearly every weekend.
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Yet another video Tito...
This ones bad, Its going to really bother you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2sQTswQIAY
In this video, Starting At 48:45 To 49:17, MMA Fighter Brendan Schaub(Well retired MMA fighter) says when describing Conor McGregor "What are we witnessing here?, Greatness, We're Witnessing Greatness, people need to recognize, for the first time ever, we are witnessing "Our" Micheal Jordan, "Our" Bruce Lee, "Our" Hank Aaron, your witnessing the pure greatness of a once in a lifetime Fighter"
lol and then it gets EVEN WORSE tito...
Next at 54:05 to 54:20 - Schaub then goes on to say "Conor is the best Fighter to ever step into the octagon" He says for him its always been Jon Jones, But thats now changed, "Conor is now the best ever"(In His Opinion)
lol again let me make this perfectly clear, I'm only posting this videos and comments to kill your Hate fueled Theory that everyone who likes Conor or thinks he's great are "New to MMA Band Riders who are Uneducated"...
I'm now posting these videos and statements to show you that as on right now, The Majority of LIFELONG MMA Fighters and analysts Also think Conor is great...
Basically Its over Tito, You can no longer use the excuse and Bunch everyone into one group, you can no longer claim, "Oh you like Conor, Oh you think Conor is great"..."Well your clearly new to MMA and Stupid"
lol of course I'm also posting these videos and comments for another reason....loloolol I know they kill you...The hatred you have for Conor, My god it most be killing to see all these videos where EVERYONE is Universally praising him...
PS again you deserve this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
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New Video Tito
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiUA3vs1koc
In this video Luke Thomas once again Makes fun on YOU by saying dont be "That Guy" who always has an excuse...
Then goes on to talk about how Conor is A "Next Level Talent and if you haven't already excepted it, now's the time to just except it"
and then questions how anyone couldn't be amazed by him, and praises him for Constantly getting better and better and better
and worst of all(for you), He then says "I just want to start off Marveling at Arguably The Great of our time"
and finally he says when talking about Conor "were talking about one of guys in our era of the sport who was one of the best to Do it"
Let me Guess?
just another "Band Rider who's new to MMA and Uneducated right?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
Brendan Schaub comes off as an idiot saying that. I understand being impressed by Conor, but declaring him the greatest for beating Aldo, splitting with Nate and beating Alverez is hyperbole to the 5th power. Seriously, the greatest ever for an impressive 12 months, going 3-1 is call for the GOAT now?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWBe_WlwA1k
lol New Video Tito...
lol this ones going to be awful for you...
In This video,from 0:10 to 1:30 you've got Chael Sonnen's podcast partner(who's Been A HUGE Conor McGregor HATER forever)...Literally now saying "It makes me sick in My Stomach to say this but Conor McGregor is The Greatest UFC Champion of all time"
Now you probably dont know this, but Both Chael Sonnen and His Partner are DIE HARDCORE Dan Henderson and Randy Couture fans because they are BOTH Best friends with them, Chael has trained with Team Quest and ExtremeCouture is whole career...
basically for them to say "Conor Is greater than Randy and Dan" is straight shocking Giving Their level of respect and friendship they have for Dan and Randy
anywho, I just wanted to Post this video to ruin your day even more...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
Hey Bill you think he actually watches this?
Also Hendo only was a "champion" in the UFC in terms of winning a tourney. He was a double PRIDE champion. So you can't really lump Dan in with a "UFC Champions" group.
Greatest UFC champ of all time. Wow! Good thing I dont listen to Chael Sonnen. And good for you youre brushing up on the sport and getting more insight. Maybe soon youll be able to form your own opinion by analyzing fights and getting to know more fighters. Baby steps, I know.
snif sniff....Im proud of you boy!
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It's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how legacies work. The label of 'greatest' comes from an entire career, not just a couple wins. If a new fighter comes along and beats an established fighter with a legacy, that new fighter does not obtain the original fighter's legacy automatically. The new fighter has to achieve what the previous fighter achieved.
I can't recall a time when a fighter was called the greatest before he defended a title. Right now Conor is in Matt Serra 2007 territory. We have a ways to go before we can call him the greatest.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
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New Video Tito
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtpYwj0L_ug
Wow, this one Just Literally Firebombed your "everyone who thinks Conor is great are New to MMA Band Riders who are uneducated" Theory Tito
lol Here in This video from 0:32 To 0:54... you have 2 LIFELONG MMA Analysts and 1 being a former fighter saying "All The Naysayers Shut up, We All know Conors the man, the game has changed, everybody's got to get on board, and from I've seen in Social Media Martial Arts and Trainers alike, all the people that were NON believers in the past finally have to except the fact that this guy is a special athlete"
lolololol
Just DEAD Tito...lol Your Theory just died...
Of course it was already dead, I've posted almost a dozen videos now proving The Majority of the MMA Community(NOT Just Conor fans) are now giving Conor the credit he deserves...
but man if those Dozens videos didn't convince you...here's this one to straight up force it on you!
lol here you have An MMA Analyst Literally telling, "I'm watching Social Media, I was at the event,I saw The Media after the event, saw the fighters and trainers after the event, I Know MMA Fighters and trainers and I'm telling you, The Naysayers are gone, Everybody now realizes and except what Conor is doing"
lol and then theres you tito, off to side still in your small anger group of "bitter enders" thinking..
"Nope, not impressed, I have an excuse for every win, Conor only beat Chad because Chad took the fight on 2 weeks(lol your conveniently leaving out Conor also took the fight on 2 weeks and HAD A TORN ACL)
Not impressed with The Aldo win, according to you Conor probably just got lucky(even though He Predicted the exact way he was going to beat Aldo and even warned Aldo and the media how he was going to do it and then was caught on tape warming up in his dressing room throwing the exact same punch)
and shockingly your not impressed with The Diaz win which is quite odd considering you said "Conor can only beat Midgets", after The first Diaz fight, you took great joy in bragging about about how Conor couldn't beat Fighters his own size, So its quite odd your not impressed with his win in the rematch considering Conor did EXACTLY what you claimed he couldn't do and BEAT A BIGGER OPPONENT...
I haven't heard your Excuse for Eddie yet, what is it? what have you came up with for why your not impressed with Conor beating Eddie(lol and this should be good, because remember You claimed Eddie would kill Conor in less than 5 minutes) lol I'm curious to hear how you'll spin Conor beating A fighter that You Predicted would beat Conor in less than 5 minutes into "Not Impressive"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
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New Video Tito
and OMG this is the worst of them all(at least for you)
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/11/16/13659364/ufc-mma-boxing-news-interview-eddie-alvarez-conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather
This video is Mark Henry....You know Eddie Alveras's coach...The same coach that has HATED Conor for 2 years now and has constantly talked sh!t about him(basically He is the absolute fartherest thing from A New Conor Mcgregor Fan and He is definitely not UNEDUCATED)
lol guess what Mark Henry said...."Conor is a one in a life time fighter, Compared Conor and His Left Hand to Babe Ruth, says Conor Literally has the Perfect Swing"
then goes on to talk about Conor's masterful timing and head movement.
and Finally, He says "Conor would beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match, He says Conor Would Knock him out"
first let me say, I dont not agree with everything In these videos that I'm posting, I love Conor, think he's great, but even my opinion of him isn't as high as some of these, But I'm Posting them ONLY to bother you tito and to show you, Your theory about "ONLY New uneducated Band riders think Conor is great" is DEAD...
I'm posting these video to show you, no, Its gone way past FANS , Now the Majority of The MMA community thinks Conor is great...
and this video especially makes me laugh because MY GOD there just isn't a better example to prove you wrong...
You claim "ONLY New uneducated Conor fans think Conor is great"
and here you have Literally The exact Opposite, You couldn't get any farther away from "New, Band Riders/Conor Fans that are uneducated" than Mark Henry...
Mark Henry who is A LIFELONG MMA Coach, who Hates Conor Mcgregor and has for 2 years game planned against him...lol and now even he is telling you Conor is great...
lol anyways just thought it was hilarious, I usually end these posts with
"Let Me guess just another New Conor fan who's uneducated"...But the hilarious part is NOT EVEN YOU can claim that about Mark Henry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siA6_s8k4RU
Why is it so difficult for you to see the forest for the trees? Nate described it all perfectly. For a couple years now, the UFC has been giving Conor a push unlike any other fighter. He went from fighting Siver to a title shot even though Edgar, Mendes and Lamas were all ranked above him. Then they gave him a title shot at 155 even though that entire division was ranked above him. Conor only has a 50/50 shot at beating Nate, and Conor is the greatest? The only thing Conor is greatest at that I've seen (not counting the endless push he gets from the UFC) is his ability to cut weight, and the ability to use his range. If that size and reach advantage is removed, a matchup the UFC has only given him one time, his record so far is 50/50. Conor is good, but he's only the greatest if you disregard the fact the organization has been pulling the strings to give him perfect matchups, except on two occasions where Mendes and Nate had to fill in on short notice... and the longer ranged opponent still beat him.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
The only thing Conor is greatest at that I've seen (not counting the endless push he gets from the UFC) is his ability to cut weight, and the ability to use his range.
It's a fair point. Conor is definitely good with his combinations. The thing with that though is similar combos are duplicated by other strikers like Nate and Cerrone. They've had fights where they put them together, and they've had fights where they didn't, same for Conor. So it's difficult for me to say Conor is the greatest at it. Another thing is all striking attributes are amplified when you have a significant reach advantage. In my honest opinion, Anderson still has them all beat by a mile.
If you can read this then you are trying too hard.
Conor is great there is no denying that.
I do think khabib beats him.
I think Ferg beats khabib.
Anyone saying Eddie isn't good needs to brush up on the guy, he is very good and Conor completely shut him down.
The most annoying fans are the hypocritical haters randomly hating for no real reason or the huge dick riding ones.
I am also very shocked to hear about Conor's staph infection, since the antibiotics would have *beep* up his body big time 2weela before the fight, but respect to him and his coaches not using it as a excuse. That's pretty cool
It's a fair point. Conor is definitely good with his combinations. The thing with that though is similar combos are duplicated by other strikers like Nate and Cerrone. They've had fights where they put them together, and they've had fights where they didn't, same for Conor. So it's difficult for me to say Conor is the greatest at it. Another thing is all striking attributes are amplified when you have a significant reach advantage. In my honest opinion, Anderson still has them all beat by a mile.
Yeah but would you say Conors striking is better than Wonderboys? Than Chucks?
Your analogy only works if you use the Conor/Diaz 2 fight. In the first fight not only did Nate out strike Conor by a slim margin he rocked Conor and sent him into a panic. Even in the second fight that was more of Conor staying alive in the later rounds than the amazing stuff he does against fightrs he has the size advantage over. Noticed he abandoned the spining kicks and a lot of the flash in the second you against Siver. Not trying to throw shade im just illustrating how hard it is to just throw a GOAT tag on a fighter an expect a fan thats follwing the sport a lot longer not to raise an eyebrow. You feel me? One of the greats is still up for debate right now when you realize his all around game isent so complete and he hasent really taken all challengers. Lets keep it real.
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Hey Tito...
Just read an interesting Topic over on The MMAshare forum...
Respect McGregor - Ive reached a point where I cant deny his talent
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Respect McGregor - Ive reached a point where I cant deny his talent
New postby deadon » Nov 15. 2016, 19:54
As a lot of you already know Im not a fan of Conor. That said Ive reached a point where I cant deny his talent. The man has the speed and power, confidence to give anyone issues. I can only hope he defends his belt, either one, in a timely fashion as I want to see MORE.
I dont like the way he was advanced to the top without climbing the ranks. We all know anything can happen in that 155lb division along the way. That said props to the man! Hes marketed himself awesome and backed up his words. Congrats to the true MMA fans of his. Cant wait for more action!
Even in the second fight that was more of Conor staying alive in the later rounds than the amazing stuff he does against fightrs he has the size advantage over. Noticed he abandoned the spining kicks and a lot of the flash in the second you against Siver.
Yeah but would you say Conors striking is better than Wonderboys?
Not trying to throw shade im just illustrating how hard it is to just throw a GOAT tag on a fighter an expect a fan thats follwing the sport a lot longer not to raise an eyebrow. You feel me?
Yeah but would you say Conors striking is better than Wonderboys?Exactly. Wonderboy has the hand combinations and the ability to take full advantage of his reach similar to Conor, but Wonderboy's kicks are leaps and bounds ahead of anything Conor can do with his legs.
Yeah but would you say Conors striking is better than Wonderboys? Than Chucks?
Your analogy only works if you use the Conor/Diaz 2 fight. In the first fight not only did Nate out strike Conor by a slim margin he rocked Conor and sent him into a panic.
Noticed he abandoned the spining kicks and a lot of the flash in the second you against Siver. Not trying to throw shade im just illustrating how hard it is to just throw a GOAT tag on a fighter an expect a fan thats follwing the sport a lot longer not to raise an eyebrow. You feel me? One of the greats is still up for debate right now when you realize his all around game isent so complete and he hasent really taken all challengers. Lets keep it real.
I'm going to go out on a limb here...
Conor has taken advantage of each and every opportunity given to him, like he should. He's the skill to take advantage of these opportunities. He's got power and skill.
BUT
Styles make fights...no MMAth just the knowledge that styles make fights. He's been steering clear of some fighters. I'm not sure it'll make a difference at 145, but at 155 it will. I see some grapplers giving him fits. Sorry but his comments on Khabib strike me as odd. A true champion (Woodley is also guilty and Bisping) takes on all comers and the best. Well the next best ranked guy at LW who has a big skill at something everyone says Conor is weak at is calling for him...so I think Conor should step up. Talk smack, but take the fight. Don't say he has earned the right tof fight me...say what you always say...I'm gonna kill you...
Who has he been steering clear of? Only answer I can possibly think of is Edgar, and that argument is moot since he didn't get past Aldo. Again.
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I think he's personally steering clear ofrom Khabib.
I think the UFC also steered him clear of people, but this wouldn't be Conor's fault. As I said he took advantage, like he should have, of what was given to him.
I don't think that's fair to say just yet. It's certainly the fight I want to see after Khabib's performance, but he's just got too many options to please everyone. Something's gotta be done with the FW belt, a LW defense against Nate would draw like crazy, he could do something extra crazy like leap to WW, or even crazier, maybe the 1 in a billion chance that he fights Mayweather comes to fruition.
It's insane, and I imagine he's not doing any of those until mid 2017 with the kid expected in May.
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Who has he been steering clear of? Only answer I can possibly think of is Edgar, and that argument is moot since he didn't get past Aldo. Again
Well, I certainly agree it's bad for the division. Hell, it's bad for both if they don't make him drop a belt since he'll be inactive for a bit, here.
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hey tito...
Just wanted to get your opinion, on a scale from 1 to 10...how much does this article bother you
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/11/19/13682582/fightweets-conor-mcgregors-place-in-mma-history
If Conor McGregor retired right now, he'd do so as a legend of the sport and an all-time great.
So, in and of itself, McGregor's accomplishments are pretty much cause for immediate induction into the UFC Hall of Fame.
From here? If McGregor were somehow to stumble, and if he never has another year quite like 2016, he's still gone on an unmatched run in the history of the sport. He's one of the all-time greats.
But if he continues this run for a couple more years? If he keeps knocking off one challenger after another, keeps taking on opponents who look like bad style matchups on paper and throwing them off their gameplans, keeps building his fights bigger and bigger? Then yes, he could end up being regarded as the greatest MMA fighter of all-time when it's all said and done.
He's not there yet, mind you, and has a way to go. But even two years ago, who besides McGregor
Yeah but if you remember there was a time after Aldo lost the title that Conor could have defended against Edgar who was the clear #1 contender. Aldo did beat him again decisively for the interim but thats not to say Edgar could have had a diffeent outcome if he had fought Conor. We would never know because Conor shose to not defend the title. Its to the point where he dosent care about the 145 title. It really degraded the division. If Conor dosent care about the FW divizion then neither do his fans so where does that leave the division? Trying to get interest in matches in a division no one cares for since Conor took the title and wont even bother to defend the title.
but if you remember there was a time after Aldo lost the title that Conor could have defended against Edgar who was the clear #1 contender.
Why is it so difficult for you to see the forest for the trees? Nate described it all perfectly. For a couple years now, the UFC has been giving Conor a push unlike any other fighter. He went from fighting Siver to a title shot even though Edgar, Mendes and Lamas were all ranked above him. Then they gave him a title shot at 155 even though that entire division was ranked above him. Conor only has a 50/50 shot at beating Nate, and Conor is the greatest? The only thing Conor is greatest at that I've seen (not counting the endless push he gets from the UFC) is his ability to cut weight, and the ability to use his range. If that size and reach advantage is removed, a matchup the UFC has only given him one time, his record so far is 50/50. Conor is good, but he's only the greatest if you disregard the fact the organization has been pulling the strings to give him perfect matchups, except on two occasions where Mendes and Nate had to fill in on short notice... and the longer ranged opponent still beat him.
For a couple years now, the UFC has been giving Conor a push unlike any other fighter.
Then they gave him a title shot at 155 even though that entire division was ranked above him.
Conor only has a 50/50 shot at beating Nate, and Conor is the greatest?
The only thing Conor is greatest at that I've seen (not counting the endless push he gets from the UFC) is his ability to cut weight, and the ability to use his range. If that size and reach advantage is removed, a matchup the UFC has only given him one time, his record so far is 50/50.
Conor is good, but he's only the greatest if you disregard the fact the organization has been pulling the strings to give him perfect matchups, except on two occasions where Mendes and Nate had to fill in on short notice...
and the longer ranged opponent still beat him.
All internet arguments aside, I don't see how people can't give Conor credit at this point. What he's done is amazing, and I don't mean winning 2 belts. I think Aldo could've done the same had he been given that opportunity. To that point, yes, he's gotten a hell of a push. But...
I mean taking on whoever. I mean ALWAYS delivering a show. And I mean TKOing a wrestler who fights above the weight class he had a belt in and making it look fcckin easy.
Not liking Conor? Yeah, I can totally get that. He obviously isn't gonna rub everyone the right way. But I'm thankful for what he's done for the sport, and I respect what he's been able to do in his fights. I think he deserves that, and then when he doesn't get it and ends up doing the same to Nurmy, there will just be more excuses. That's not toward you, Tito... Just seemed to be the appropriate place to post that.
And if it makes anyone feel better, no one is reading Bill's giant, terribly structured posts. I like to rub in Tito's favorite/least fighter's losses/wins, too, but Jesus Christ.
And full disclosure: I'm not on the fan or non-fan side here. There's only 2 fighters I've ever "homer'd" for, and one is retired and the other is a shell of his former self eatin' up tainted dick pills.
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I think Aldo could've done the same had he been given that opportunity. To that point, yes, he's gotten a hell of a push. But...
Conor's legacy is already set in stone no matter what happens next, only hardcore haters will argue the fact.
I do agree Aldo was given a raw deal, he could have been lw champ if given the shot. I'm still annoyed we never saw pettis vs aldo