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Wow, Garbrandt just won some fans tonight.


Very impressive. Expected the exact opposite, but didn't really know much about Cody. Call me a band-wagoner, but I'm a fan of Cody now...

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That's what I don't get. PPl should have been paying attention when Cody beat Brimage. When he beat Almeida ppl really should have took notice! Fair weather fans just listen to what the media says, all the talking, Goldie and Rogan and that's it. They end up missing the good fighters and good fights just following the trenders. Cody schooled Dominick. Cruz has always been robotic and predictable and he showed it last night following that same pattern and saying hes unpredictable and flowing. hes not.

"Hi, excuse me. Can you use your karate to open up this pickle jar?"

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Kind of hard to be impressed with his third-round win over Brimage when Conor starched him in one minute. But anyway, yeah, I watch MMA about the same amount as a fair-weather fan, but that's because I was never a big fan of UFC 2.0. The less rules, the better, in my opinion. Other than weight-classes, I don't like any of the changes from the old-school format. Can't knee an opponent to the head when he's down, LOL, yeah, like that's realistic in an actual fight. That just favors lay-n-pray wrestlers and other lame fighters. Never really followed Cruz, mainly because he's in a division where less than half a dozen fighters have KO power (No Love being one of them), which kind of ruins it for me, because if a perfect punch right on the button can't knock a guy out because he weighs so little, then it's harder for me to get into the fight, personally...

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This fight should have been the main event. Way better than that 48 seconds of Nunes attempting to get some decent exercise.

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This fight should have been the main event. Way better than that 48 seconds of Nunes attempting to get some decent exercise.


Sorry, but I think the UFC is trying to cater primarily to fight fans, as opposed to teenage boys who masturbate to anime...

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This is true, so I would recommend that you save your fantasies about teenage boys for therapy.

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So not only can you not muster up a single counterpoint, now you can't even make an insult that makes sense?

[Rhetorical]

Try again, Corky. And if I don't reply, it's because your pathetic cry for attention wasn't worth dignifying with a response. Sorry...

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Hey man, you're the one randomly bringing up sex acts involving teenage boys on a forum catered to fight fans. I'm afforded at least a little skepticism.

Now if you wanna talk about the actual topic, see my initial comment. This fight was by far better than the joke fight we got for the main event.

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Your initial comment had no point. Sorry. And why deny you are pathetic anime fan? Just look at your infantile avatar pic, for F's sake!!! I mean, seriously, if you are over twenty, you should jump in front of a train... So why don't you go back to the Naruto boards already and leave the fight-talk to actual fight-fans, champion.

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If you don't know enough about this sport to have a conversation on the merits of Garbrandt's fight in comparison to Nune's fight, nobody is going to judge you for it. Only pissants make an issue out of how much one knows about this sport.

As for the "pathetic anime fan" charges, I don't take them too seriously in light of you being an avid fan of a show that runs on the Kid Disney channel. Star Wars Rebels I believe. If anything, it makes these fantasies you have about "teenage boys" a bit more . . . enlightening, which is why I advised sharing them in therapy.

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If you don't know enough about this sport to have a conversation on the merits of Garbrandt's fight in comparison to Nune's fight, nobody is going to judge you for it. Only pissants make an issue out of how much one knows about this sport.


My point still stands: Your initial post had NO POINT! Just like the pointless (literally) post above. I mean, seriously, if you have something to say about MMA, then say it already. Or STFU.

As for the "pathetic anime fan" charges, I don't talk it too seriously in light of you being an avid of a show that runs on the Kid Disney channel. Star Wars Rebels I believe


Wow, I didn't know it was possible to be butt-hurt for over a year... But regardless, I think pretty much every die-hard Star Wars fan is a big fan of Filoni's Clone Wars (not Rebels, FYI), and I hope he gets a shot at directing one of the new films... Nice job trying to change the subject, BTW, since, you know, you have exactly nothing to say about MMA here. Other than to gloat about Ronda's loss apparently because you blame her for your unwanted virginity or something, right champion?

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My point still stands: Your initial post had NO POINT!

But regardless, I think pretty much every die-hard Star Wars fan is a big fan of Filoni's Clone Wars, hope he gets a shot at directing one of the new ones.
Lol. Excuses excuses. It's a kid show on the kid disney channel. And you watch it. And you not only watch it, but seem to watch other such shows as well. And yet YOU wanna say something to ME about having an anime avatar? LMFAO! Get outta here.

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Lol. Excuses excuses.


Uhhh, sorry, like I already told you, pretty much all die-hard Star Wars fans like the Clone Wars, both adults and kids. Despite that fact, unlike you, I don't have a retarded anime avatar, nor do I post on the anime boards, nor do I watch and/or make posts about comic-book movies. Also unlike you, I don't masturbate to anime.

And again, if you have ANYTHING to say about MMA, please feel free to do so when you muster up the courage. (Don't worry, I won't hold my breath.)

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Lemme see if I have this down correctly. As long as you're a die hard fan, it's okay to watch shows on the kid disney channel and constantly talk and fantasize about sex acts involving teenage boys. If you're not a die hard fan (and you commit the grievous act of slamming Ronda Rousey), then all bets are off and you're a retard and a teenage boy (can't be anything that ruins the fantasy ) ? That sound about right?

And again, if you have ANYTHING to say about MMA
I did. And you don't wanna talk about it. Maybe you don't know enough about MMA to talk about it. Who knows.

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Lemme see if I have this down correctly [blah-blah-blah]


Sorry, retard, nobody cares.

That being said, obviously someone with such an embarrassing anime avatar pic AND pathetic enough to have a separate user account to hide all their Naruto message board posts would certainly feel the need to salvage some scrap of dignity by attempting to have the last word, so feel free. Nothing you said is worth dignifying with a response anyway, so go ahead, give me your best (aka pathetic) insult, I'll play along and pretend you "won" here, and you can go back to furiously masturbating to Ronda getting beat up by Nunes and I'll go back to talking about the fights with real MMA fans who can actually discuss martial arts...

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Well that's mighty gracious of you, but I don't really have a "last word" so much as I do a "last question." Why do you constantly fixate upon the thought of teenage boys "furiously masturbating?" Is there something you'd like to tell me? 

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Well that's mighty gracious of you, but I don't really have a "last word" so much as I do a "last question." Why do you constantly fixate upon the thought of teenage boys "furiously masturbating?" Is there something you'd like to tell me?


Sure, I'll tell you something. For starters, most people know that anime fans are pretty pathetic, hence, the reason why they are stereotyped as being morbidly obese, pimply teenage virgins who like fapping to anime. Second, anime fans who also magically transform into Ronda-hating MMA "experts" after she loses are generally stereotyped as being twice as pathetic as the generic, run-of-the-mill anime fans, and these guys frequently brag online about masturbating to Rousey fight videos where she loses, as evidenced in the comments sections. And the fact that you've never denied this accusation, but instead tried to twist it into something else, confirms to everyone else what they already suspected. And the more times you failed to deny it, the more everyone had another good hearty laugh at your expense.

Thanks for asking, though. So I guess just maybe stick to the inane insults and then I'll pretend you "won" by ignoring your pathetic cries for attention and that will be that...

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Oh yeah, whereas if you watch shows on Kid Disney, you're a rugged studly six-packed bodybuilding alpha male. I understand completely! 

My concern though, is these constant allusions to teenage males engaging in sexual acts. The vivid imagery you use . . . why I fear there's something you're not telling us. Something you're projections only give us a slight glimpse towards. Something dark and troublesome. Perhaps these Star Wars Rebels marathon parties you host down in the cellar alongside small groups of "teenage boys" is not as innocent as you would like us to believe.

And the fact that you've never denied this accusation
If you insist . . . I deny these teenage-boy focused sexual fantasies of me "furiously masturbating", I deny being a Ronda "hater" (whatever that means), I deny being an obese pimply teenage virgin, I deny being a werewolf, I deny being the second-coming of Hitler and I deny any other unhinged nonsense you have soaking in your nubile teenage-boy obsessed brain. We good now?

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That Rousey fight was worth every penny. Youre nuts!

"Hi, excuse me. Can you use your karate to open up this pickle jar?"

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That Rousey fight was worth every penny. Youre nuts!


He's definitely nuts. I mean, seriously, just look at that avatar pic, LOL!

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Literally blown way by Cody...


Just beat Cruz in everyway...

Also I don't know if Cody intentionally did this or not, he probably did, But Man Cody fooled everyone...

going into this fight the overwhelming Consensus was, Cody had one shot at winning...A KO...

everyone thought based on the way Cody acted, how he fights, how angry he's been, He was going to be a wild man and one trick pony and would look to take Cruz's head off and Cruz would eventually out point him and out class him..

but Damn Cody was a stone cold killer...patient, made Cruz Come to him, Showed Shockingly Elite head movement and foot work, incredible counter punching and absolutely 100% got into Cruz's head with constant taunting, and the best thing about the taunting was, he only did it when he completely owned Cruz's, Cody wasn't just taunting, he taunted after getting the best of Cruz's in exchanges and when making Cruz miss..

it was just amazing how, going into this fight, everyone seemed sold on Cody being a one trick pony and having only one shot, and Cruz was a major part of that, Cruz 1000% thought Cody's only shot was a KO, he repeatedly said it, believed it and sold people on it, Cruz thought Cody would come out Wild and try for the KO....but man it was the exact opposite, Cody beat him in everyway, in every position, even out Cruzing Cruz's...Cody literally beat Cruz at what he does best.

I literally can not wait to see Cody fight again...

PS, there are no words to describe I much I like Cruz and respect his game,style and skills...IMO Cruz was the P4P best fighter on the planet....

and I say this because I just want people to understand how impressed I was with Cody to beat Cruz they way he did...



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Literally blown way by Cody...


Just beat Cruz in everyway...

Also I don't know if Cody intentionally did this or not, he probably did, But Man Cody fooled everyone...


Completely agree. I also wondered if he tricked everyone too, and if so, damn, that was an impressive con-job. Almost as impressive as his hands and ring generalship.

I literally can not wait to see Cody fight again...


Just curious, would you rather see Cody vs Dillashaw or a rematch with Cruz?

PS, there are no words to describe I much I like Cruz and respect his game,style and skills...IMO Cruz was the P4P best fighter on the planet....

and I say this because I just want people to understand how impressed I was with Cody to beat Cruz they way he did...


Yeah, half-way through the fight, I'm already totally won over with No Love, and then afterwards he's SUPER respectful and then how cool was it to put his belt on that cancer-survivor kid? Honestly, I was just starting to get annoyed with Conor's ego again and now I'm like, THIS, this is how I wish Conor would carry himself...

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Just curious, would you rather see Cody vs Dillashaw or a rematch with Cruz?


I would Literlly Love to see either one...either one would be one of my most nticipated fights of 2017

but I'd probably favor Cruz/Cody II and the only reason is because of the level of respect I have for Cruz...

I would love to see the adjustments Cruz would make in a rematch...

I really think Cruz got stumped during the fight, I think by the end of the first round Cruz knew he was in trouble and knew the fight wasn't going like he thought...and I'm sure he tried making adjustments during The fight and Desperately tried to figure Cody out, but he simply couldn't, it finally got to the point where he realized he had to take chances, and try to win the fight with volume which led to Awful 3rd and 4th rounds where he was hurt many times..

I'm not sure exactly what Cruz could do differently except to go in with a Wrestling heavy gameplan in the rematch....but I'm not sure thats doable, Cody wrestling Is damn good and his takedown defense looked great...

I'm not sure Cruz's can beat Cody, but that's why I want to see it, IMO Cruz's Fight IQ is either the best In MMA or one of the best, If anyone could figure it out and make the adjustments its Cruz's

for example if TJ fought Cody and Cody beat him the same exact way he beat Cruz's...I wouldn't be excited for a rematch, there wouldn't be anything there that would give me confidence a rematch would look any different, But Cruz's Mind, fight IQ, and ability to breakdown fighters, makes me want to see a rematch, 90 % of the time when something like this happens its a changing of the guard...

when TJ beat Baroa, It was clear TJ was just better, they had the rematch but TJ way better and Baroa made no adjustments and probably wasn't capable of making the adjustents

Cody vs Cruz looked similar...It looks like Cody is just better....But IMO Cruz's is special, and if anyone could make the adjustments, and come back and shock people, IMO its Cruz's

3 of the 5 rounds were close...Rounds 1,2 and 5...kind of could have gone either way....Cody clearly won, I had him winning 3-2...but it wasn't a blowout, 2 rounds were a blowout, rounds 3 and 4 were HUGE for Cody, but the other 3 rounds were damn close...I could see Cruz's making adjustments and coming back in the rematch and giving Cody problems

Yeah, half-way through the fight, I'm already totally won over with No Love, and then afterwards he's SUPER respectful and then how cool was it to put his belt on that cancer-survivor kid? Honestly, I was just starting to get annoyed with Conor's ego again and now I'm like, THIS, this is how I wish Conor would carry himself...


ya Cody did everything right..

I disagree about Conor....I get sick of the Money talk and him bragging about his numbers...

But Conor amazes most after his fights...He's shockingly respectful to his opponents...The interview he gave at the post fight presser at UFC 194 after beating Aldo was incredible, He literally gave Aldo nothing but respect...

after UFC 205, He gave Eddie nothing but respect

and My GOD, the way he handled the Diaz lose was Legendary, from the second it was over, he never said every wrong, Immediately gave Nate Credit, never made a single accuse, immediately dissected what went wrong and it was 100% his fault for being inefficient with his energy and misjudging how to fight a bigger opponent, just masterful in defeat, lol Nate on the other Literally couldn't even get out of the cage with making excuses, Literally in The cage during the Rogan interview, the first thing he said was, "I was injured, I came into the fight with Injuries, and I got the Injuries on tape so you know I'm not lying"...lololololololol

IMO you couldn't ask for better sportsmanship form a fighter than Conor AFTER FIGHTS...win or lose he's all class and shockingly respectful toward the fighter he just fought....Before the fight, completely different, He's in a tornado of trying to sell the fight and trying to mentally break his opponent, so he says and does things that can get extremely annoying, some of it is literally Genius, some of it is Painfully annoying...



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Cruz felt off to me. Maybe Cody was just that good, but Cruz looked slower. I couldn't tell how bad that headbutt was, but that might have contributed.

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That was just Joe making excuses. Even in the replay they barely rubbed heads and Cody had a cut on his eye too. The head butt couldn't have made Cody faster. Cruz was off cuz he under estimated Codys abilities. Cody hit harder than Cruz in the exchanges, Cruz is notorious for the pillow punches. Codys head movement was phenomenal. Cruz looked exactly how he always fought. Cody just showed him how it was really done. All that extra movement was unnecessary. Cody just stood there and watched him do his dance pattern til he was close enough to hit the he bombed on Cruz every time he threw a punch close enough. Cody was more than wiling to exchange punches cuz he knew he hit harder. Cruz was wearing his self out with those extra dance moves and Cody was faster avoiding punches, moving his head and even dancing. Cruz thought he could fight Cody with his hands down and avoid punches but was wrong.Cruz was so so wrong in his game plan for this fight.

"Hi, excuse me. Can you use your karate to open up this pickle jar?"

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I guess that is my point. When have you ever seen Cruz hit that much? I thought he looked slower than usual.

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More like Cody showed divercity and ruz drank his own kool aid really. Yeah he does bang but hee from Alpha Male so its to be expected his wrestling should be on point. Maybe not even par with his colleages but you know theres a pedigree. Turns out his wheels are way beter than Cruz and his head movement is on point in synch with his counters(if you watch some of his fights this is showcased in bow he dodges the first shot then counters hard, head movement). Cody had no respect for Cruz punching power and practically dared him to punch straight up either slipping the punch or making Cruz hit him on the top of the head. Cruz did his same robotic moves then when he tried to shoot Cody out classed him there too. You saw that crazy scrambble where Cody reversed, took Cruz back, rolled with him to counter Cruz reversal then kneed him going out? That was clean. Pretty slick. If I didnt know any better I say that looked like a catch and release. If he anounces it was I wont argue. That was some slick sh!t.

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That was just Joe making excuses. Even in the replay they barely rubbed heads and Cody had a cut on his eye too. The head butt couldn't have made Cody faster. Cruz was off cuz he under estimated Codys abilities



could not agree more with this...

going into this fight, It was 1000% clear Cruz thought Cody was a one trick pony and did not have the overall game to beat him...Cruz Literally said in every interview, and if you listened to him, He believed it and even sold people on it, Most everyone thought Cody ONLY had a punchers chance against Cruz and Cruz had a lot to do with that with his interviews...

the other thing that had a HUGE Effect on this fight and Cruz was...

Cody simply fooled Cruz and Everyone else, Cody acted extremely anger and Wild during the build up for the fight...He made everyone including Cruz think he was going to come out and go wild looking for the Knock out....and My God Cody just did the exact opposite, He was incredibly patient, He was Counter Striking almost the entire fight and he MADE Cruz come to him...it was just A masterful CON JOB by Cody....somewhere in the 2nd round, Reality must have been hitting Cruz and I'm sure he was shocked That Cody tricked it, I think thats even why Cruz was doing some of the talking during the fight, he realized Cody wasn't Wild or over aggressive like he thought and was trying to get him angry so he would start getting sloppy and aggressive...

Cruz did try to make adjustments after round 1, but nothing was working, eventually it got to the point were Cruz knew he was losing and things weren't working and thats when he finally tried to win With Volume....which lead to him getting beat badly in the 3rd and 4th round, Cruz was forced to try and get in the pocket and land strikes in volume and it resulted in him getting caught and hurt multiple times...

Cody was just Special, he beat Cruz in everyway and showed ALOT of different Skills that Most and especially Cruz didn't know or think he had.

I am curious though why Cruz didn't try to wrestle more...he only had like 1 takedown attempt the entire fight....I'm not entirely sure Cruz could have got Cody down, but it does seem odd to me that he didn't even try, I'm thinking something might have been wrong, maybe an injury and Cruz didn't have confidence in his wrestling...

IMO that is the ONLY adjustment Cruz could makes in a rematch that would chance the outcome, of course Cruz could make a lot of adjustments, but I'm not sure any would work well enough to to change the outcome except Wrestling...Cruz would have to come into the rematch with a Wrestling heavy gameplan and perfectly execute it to win the rematch IMO
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Did you see this fight? Did you see Codys take down? That was out of a video game lightning quick. He like jumped back fodged a punch(I think Id have to look at it avain)pou ced forward and vot like the cleanest takedown Ive seen on a high level opponent. Perfectly times yet a reaction to Cruz action. I dont think Cruz wana wrestle tbat guy. Did tou see bim catch Cruz kicks and tbrow bim around? Eaisly.
No I dont think Cody was playing a role. It seemed more like Cody was genuinely insulted that Cruz thought so little of his game. He couldnt wait to prove him wrong. Cody was fighting emotionaly. You can see it in his little break dance moves he didnt just wana beat him, he wanted to humiliate him every way he could. He had Cruz plotted out so bad he had all the time in the world. He kept it in check to not make mistakes but you can tell. That guys a rager.

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Cruz had an equally impressive takedown in the first round I think.

I think Cruz thought he was so much better on the feet so he didn't bother with the wrestling which might have been equal or not much of an advantage.

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You mean that takedown that Cody easily reversed then rolled with Cruz while keeping his bac then kneed Cruz clean on the break?

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Poor Cruz
Tj will beat Cody
Then Cruz vs tj title

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