Floyd Mayweather has a good point - The Ultimate Fighter (2005) Discussion

[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

The fight dosent interest me if not for its freak factors. Old vs new, boxing vs MMA, irish vs american, white vs black. I habe no interest in seeing Floyd in an MMA fight and even less for Conor in a boxing match. That said this wpuld be Conors biggest ticket. If he can properly negotiate it he could see up to 100 mil himself and stay relevant in MMA or take the money and run. If they can gwt it to the table this year Ill be impressed but right now this fight is still a fantasy fight. Its the closest Ive seen come to reality so far but still, til they get it on paper its just talk and if Dana poors money and time into it then hes trying to get his paper too and cash out like the Fertittas. Can Conor beat Mayweather? Who cares? Its not gona be in MMA soits just a celebrity death maych to me.

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[–] legendkillinpeopleschamp 8 years ago

It is such a pointless fight that proves nothing. Most that are truly into it are people that have nothing better and love social media.

MMA rules Conor wins even with meh ground game.
Boxing Floyd wins, different gloves and he is the best.

Conor needs it way more than Floyd too. Floyd has the money, streak, legacy, non sports fame.

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

Yeah I get that it's not important for either sport, but it shows how ignorant Dana White can be sometimes even when it comes to promotion. Dana is okay with Conor making more than twice what he usually makes, but wants Floyd to get a fraction of what he is used to earning? And wants Floyd to come out of retirement for that fraction? It's just plain stupid.

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[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

Well its not stupid if thats his objective. To make the most he can from a bunk deal. Its what Ive been bitching about Dana for years how he would put together dumb fights and sell them to the public for as much as he can get. And hes got another audiance to tap into now.

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

I mean, it's a stupid deal if Dana actually wants the fight to happen. Maybe he has no interest in it, and just put up some insignificant number so he can pretend later on that he tried.

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[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

Let's be real here...why in the hell would the UFC allow Mayweather to promote and make the $$$$? Why would Mayweather allow the UFC to promote and leave himself out????

It's all about saving face, getting attention and growing the brand from either side. This fight, due to the reasons of contracts and rights and money will not happen. Conor would have to make his purse, Mayweather his purse AND both Mayweather as the promotor would have to co-promote with the UFC. All sides involved, minus Conor have too much to lose to co-promote. This is nothing more than click bait, fodder and BS to try to keep names in the media while Conor takes time off and Mayweather stays retired.

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[–] My_Pot_Drank_My_Granny 8 years ago

I think you're underestimating Dana... It's a negotiation tactic. Floyd goes high, Dana goes low, etc...

Neither thinks the fight will ever happen, but all the talk about it keeps Floyd's brand in the news and Dana's offer makes it look like he's willing and able to make the fight happen while also taking a shot at Floyd and promoting Conor even more.

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

Floyd didn't go high though. That's what Floyd has been making even when his PPV numbers weren't so good. He made twice that with the Pacquiao fight.

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[–] BettOnThat 8 years ago

Speaking of Pacquiao, since he's thrown his name in it as well, would there be enough interest to keep the asking price as high?

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[–] My_Pot_Drank_My_Granny 8 years ago

Sorry, I meant high by UFC standards. Floyd might not be book smart... or even literate... but he's business smart enough to know that 100M is waaaay out of the UFC's price range.

Or maybe he's just throwing out numbers, who knows? It all ends up back where it started, which is just getting his name and his brand in the news while the UFC does the same.

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

Actually, Floyd didn't ask for 100 mil. He offered 100 mil/15 mil under his own promotion. Dana said no because Conor is signed with him. If Floyd can make 100 mil with his own promotion, 25 mil is either Dana being ignorant or shows he's not interested. There's no way Floyd is coming out of retirement to make 1/4 of what he normally makes. I don't think he'd even do it for 80 million. The problem for Dana is Conor only wants huge fights. That's why Khabib versus Ferguson is for an interim title.

But who knows, maybe Dana can get Pacquiao to fight him.

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[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

I agree with your overall point

but

Conor hasn't cracked the $15 million mark for a single fight yet, and there's no fight other than Mayweather that can do it for him.

This isn't true...

Conor made extremely close to 15 Million for The Diaz Rematch...

and Could make close to 20 Million + for The Trilogy

Now to your point, its not close to anything he could make with Floyd...

But There is a fight out there that could Net Conor 15-20 Million + and that's exactly why The Diaz Trilogy will be his next fight.

Its Literally The ONLY Move business wise, any fight Conor could take EXCEPT Diaz III would cost him 5-10 Million.

If Conor Fights Aldo,Khabib,Tony or Wooodley next...Those fights Literally do 5-10 Million Dollars less for Conor.

UFC 205 ended up doing close to 1.3 Million PPV's Buys....

UFC 196 and 202 both did 1.6 Million +....

A Diaz Trilogy Fight is going to do between 300-500 K more PPV Buys than any other Conor fight and With Conor getting a Large Cut of PPV's(something like 5 to 10 dollars a Buys) that's between 2.5 and 5 Million dollars right there just in PPV's buys.

The ONLY other fight that could throw a wrench in this is....GSP...

If Conor fought GSP in his next fight, that could also do Diaz III type numbers or maybe even more...

So Yes I agree With your overall point, but disagree that Conor doesn't have any other fight where he could make 15 Million...

BOTH The Trilogy fight with Diaz and A fight with GSP Would easily net Conor 15 to 20 Million +

but No other fight would....any other fight with Aldo,Khabib,Tony or ,Woodley, Conor would make SIGNIFCENTLY less....IMO he would make between 10-15 Million for those fight instead of 15 to 20 Million + for Diaz and GSP(at Based on His Pay on previsions fights)

Conor made 3 Million in disclosed Salary at UFC 202, Then 3.5 Million at UFC 205...

His disclosed Salary isn't going to go down until he loses, So regardless who he fights in his next fight, He'll Probably 4 Million in Disclosed Salary (If it goes up similar to how it went up fro 202 to 205)...

So looking at a absolute minimum here...Lets say he fight either Aldo,Khabib,Tony or Woodley next(Lets throws out the 2 big money fights in Diaz and GSP)

at a Minimum Conor's gonna make at least 3.5 Million in Disclosed Salary , But Probably 4 Million, He'll probably get a similar 500 K Bump that he got from 202 to 205

Then absolute any PPV, with any of the 4 possible opponents/Fights is going to do between 1 and 1.3 Million in PPV's buys and With Conor getting a $5 to 10 cut of PPV buys, that's between $6.5 and 13 Million In PPV's Points/Buys

so at an absolute minimum, Conor in his next fight against either Aldo,Khabiib,Tony or Woodley is going to make at least 10 Million dollars in his next fight(3.5 in Disclosed Salary and 6.5 Million In PPV Buys), and Possibly as much as 17 Million(4 Million In disclosed Salary and 13 Million in PPV Buys)....and that's not counting Reebox money, Sponsorship and money he makes from appearances.

So if Conor's making between $10 to 17 Million just in Disclosed Salary and PPV's to fight NON Money fights in Aldo,Khahbib,Tony and Woodley...

we got to assume MONEY Fights against Diaz and GSP would net him at least 15 Million and maybe as high as 25 Million

No MMA fight could make Conor anything close to what he'd make against Floyd....

But Shockingly....Somehow Conor has actually put himself in a position where he making money in MMA fights that were truly IMPOSSIBLE and straight fantasy just a short time ago...

I mean to honestly even think about an MMA fighter making "Boxing Type" Money Per Fight was and has always been Absurd....

But Conor is now doing just that...He's Literally making a minimum of 10 Million a fight, and has ways to make as much as 25 Million in at least 2 MMA Fights.

its incredible, Before, GSP and Brock were the absolute best you could hope for...making 400 K to Show in salary and 3-5 Million from PPV's Buys...

somehow Conor is now Making "Boxing Type" money for MMA fights(well excluding Mayweather) Mayweather "Boxing Type" money is absurd, But the usual 5,10,15 25 Million dollar Purses we've heard from The Huge Boxing Fights that have always been Laughable for MMA....

Conor is actually achieving it!

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

Like I said, he never got $15 mil for a fight. He got somewhere around $11.5 million for Diaz 2, and most of that was on the back end for his PPV cut. He didn't get $15 million for Alvarez either. Floyd is offering $15 million on the front end before a cut of the PPV which he said they would negotiate later. Only way McGregor gets that kind of money is by ditching Dana White and fighting Floyd. $20 million for Diaz 3? That's just plain ignorance. The PPV buys would have to nearly double from last time, and if UFC thought they would, they'd have that fight next week at whatever weight Diaz wants.

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[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

Yeah they cant juice another Conor/Diaz fight cuz it will be overkill and they cant risk Conor losing again to keep him relevant unless its the big cash out already.
No they will be picking their next opponent very carefully.

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[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Yeah they cant juice another Conor/Diaz fight cuz it will be overkill and they cant risk Conor losing again to keep him relevant unless its the big cash out already.
No they will be picking their next opponent very carefully.

lol I love how you 100% credit Conor being Scared for why he's fighting Diaz next instead of Maybe considering the fact that He's going to fight Diaz next because Its The Smart Business Decision...

lol Conor Literally loses between 5 to 10 million dollars if he fights anyone but Diaz Next....Any fight he takes besides Diaz will cost him as much as 10 Million dollars.

A Trilogy fight with Diaz guarantees Conor A Minimum of 15 Million Dollars and as Much as 25 Million, PPV buys would be guaranteed to be between 1.5 and 1.8 Million...

any other fight, Conor would be making between 10 and 15 Million Tops, and PPV's buys would be between 1 and 1.3 Million

at this Point Conor is a 2 Weight Champ, the number 2 ranked P4P fighter on earth and his legacy is set in stone, He did exactly what he said from the day he walked into The UFC...lol For Conor its no longer about Proving himself , He's at the Point now where he's going to take Money fights and the absolute biggest fights.

Now for The very small minority who hate Conor and Will always find a way to hate on him, that will bother you and you'll constantly talk about how he hasn't defended the titles and that he's ducking fighters...

but thats just you....when you literally go 9-1 in the UFC, go 6-0 at FW, Beat 4 top 10 ranked FW's, Beat The Number 1 ranked P4P fighter on earth to win The Undisputed FW championship, Then go up and beat an all time great LW in Eddie Alvare to win The LW championship in an absolute dominating and masterful performance to become the first ever simultaneous 2 weight UFC champ, when you literally Win 3 fights in 3 different weight classes in a calendar year again and show the same skill set and abilities in all 3 weights, when You Literally Score 8 Knockdowns in the 3 fights IN 3 DIFFERENT WEIGHTS....You've proved yourself...

you no longer have to even entertain the thought that "Your scared or ducking fights", You no longer have to entertain the thought that "but Ummm you haven't defended the titles"....when you've accomplished that ^....

Its no longer about Proving yourself, If Conor want to take Money fights now, If he picks a fight that is clearly going to make him 10 million dollars more than another fight, at this point its fine and its fine because of what he's accomplished

If Conor hadn't done all these things...if he had a record of 6-4 in the UFC, and got a title shot, won and then started picking easy fights instead of fighting the number contenders, fine thats bullsh!t...

Or for example look at Tyron Woodley...The Guy has a 6-2-1 record in the UFC...he got a title shot on a 2 fight winning steak where neither guy he beat was in the top 5, and He Literally had NOT FOUGHT in 18 MONTHS before getting the title shot.

lol thats not exactly "Proving Himself" or earning a title shot, In fact the only fighters he had fought that were top 5 He Lost too, BOTH Shields and Rory beat him and His fight against Condit was stopped due to injury and Woodley was gassing.

lol but Woodley gets the title shot and Wins....lol and what does he do...Immediately starts calling out Nick Diaz(A MONEY FIGHT), keep in mind that mean Woodley got a title shot based on a 2 fight winning streak where neither on his 2 wins were against top 5 opponents and He had not fought in 18 months, Basically Woodley Proved NOTHING and in no way earned a title shot, did not fight strong competition and The first thing he does after winning the title is call a fighter whom is on a 3 fight losing streak and hasn't fought in 2 years....lol oh and There was clearly 2 fighters that were Clear cut Number one contenders in Wonder boy and Maia...

That is A situation where Its not okay to take money fights...that is a situation where A fighter Literally hasn't proved a thing, didnt fight any strong competition, didnt earn a title shot, and then tried to duck the True number 1 contenders for Money fights.

in that case given the fact that Woodley didn't beat a top 5 fighter, hadn't fought in 18 months, Its absurd to ask or take a Money fight, In that case YOU NEED to PROVE YOURSELF, In that case you need to immediately start fighting number 1 contenders to PROVE your fighting strong competition...

Conor's situation is the complete opposite, He's been fighting Elite Competition, He's fought bad style matchups, He's beat Elite fighters in 3 different weight Classes, He Literally Destroyed BOTH CHAMPIONS in Both Divisions he's champion in, He fought 4 top 10 FW's and a future champion in Max Hollaway before getting His Title shot against Aldo, He Literally achieved something no other fighter in history has in being a 2 weight simultaneous UFC champion...he accomplished every single thing he said he would from the time he walked into the UFC, He said he would Obliterate the FW Division, He said he would beat and KO Aldo, he said he would then move up to LW and Win the LW belt, He said he was coming into the UFC as a 2 weight champ and he would replicate that success....Lol I dont remember anyone at that time he was saying this saying "ummm ya but I want to see you defend them after you do it"

No instead everyone thought he was crazy and doubted he would achieve anyone of it

He accomplished every single thing he said and accomplished every single thing people doubted....and now after he's done it....Now It "Nope Not impressive, now you got to defend them"

lol

The facts are Conor Proved himself, If he now wants to take Money fights, fine...

Would I like to see him fight The Number one contenders and defend the belt against the true number 1 contender, yes, If he did could it add on to his achievements, Yes...

But at this point its Just that...ADDING ON, what ever he does now is JUST ADDING on To his incredible achievements...

unfortunately for you tito and the small minority, You are trying to make it seem like Conor still isn't proven, that he needs to do this and that to prove himself and secure his legacy....and thats simply just Delusional and the thoughts of A Hate Fueled Angry HATER

PS....again I do find it hilarious that You seem to be outraged that Conor is "Ducking or scared" to fight Khabib and is instead going to fight Diaz...

Yet I'm sure you have no Problem with that fact that Woodley desperately tried to Avoid BOTH Wonderboy and Maia(Both of whom are bad Matchup for Woodley simlar to how Khabib is a bad match up for Conor) and Instead Woodley tried to Fight NICK DIAZ whom is on a 3 fight losing streak.

so to recap....Conor is probably going to ask to fight Diaz instead of The true number 1 contender Khahbib whom is on a 6 fight winning streak and who is a nightmare matchup for Conor....and this bothers you and You clearly are suggesting Conor's doing it because he scared and ducking Khahbib

Yet Woodley Asked both Privately and publicly to fight Nick Diaz instead of The True number 1 contenders Wonder boy or Maia who ironically is The Mirror image to Khabib, an outstanding grappler, who's on a 6 fight winning streak whom is a night mare matchup for Woodley...

Also worth noting again Nick Diaz is a 3 fight losing streak and hasn't fought in 2 years, so Woodley Literally had not beat 1 top 5 opponent before fighting for the belt, Then wins the belt and immediately tries to fight a fighter who is not even ranked instead Of fighting The Number 1 or 2 ranked contenders, both of which are bad match ups and are on 6 fight winning streaks(7 in Wonder boys case)

This ^ doesn't bother you

yet you bitch about Conor, fighting Diaz instead of Khahbib...Conors who's actually fought Elite Competition and who's fought top 10 opponents in each of is last 7 fights...

You are sick....you are biased....You should feel deep SHAME tito

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[–] My_Pot_Drank_My_Granny 8 years ago

Is the general public even interested in completing the trilogy? I guess I'd be intrigued at Diaz going for a belt, but I'm kinda over those 2 fighting each other, personally.

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

It certainly wouldn't be my first choice.

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[–] legendkillinpeopleschamp 8 years ago

Is the general public even interested in completing the trilogy? I guess I'd be intrigued at Diaz going for a belt, but I'm kinda over those 2 fighting each other, personally.

I wouldn't care for it, more of the same trash talking...boring.

Also they need to have a build up. I don't want instant rematches, Diaz needs to fight before getting that match.

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[–] BigDDD 8 years ago

Doesn't Diaz want millions to fight again?

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[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Like I said, he never got $15 mil for a fight.

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/nate-diaz/conor-mcgregor-nate-diaz-earn-estimated-15-million-13-million-respectively-ufc-202/

and as I said...Conor made Extremely close to 15 Million at UFC 202!

in fact probably more

$15 million for Alvarez either

again yes he MAY Have

UFC 205 did 1.3 Million PPV Buys...Conor gets between 5 and 10 Dollar Per PPV Buy(and this point its way closer to 10 than 5) I think Conor got 5 dollars Per Buy at UFC 189 and UFC 194, But He signed a new deal that kicked in after UFC 194 which almost certainly put his take closer to 10 dollars Per buy...and Conor may very well be at the Point where he's getting 10 dollars per buy now

So If Conor does in fact get 10 dollars PPV buys....that means at UFC 205, He made at least 13 Million from the 1.3 Million PPV's sold and another 3.5 Million in Disclosed Salary, 50 K Performance bonus, at least 250 in reebox sponsorship and at least 250 K for His after party at a NY nightclub.

that WELL OVER 15 million...

I don't know what your trying to prove here, why are you fighting so hard that Conor hasn't made 15 Million...it doesn't matter, Your point is still right, it doesn't matter if Conors made 15 million or not, your right that Conor couldn't make anything close to what he would make with Floyd with any other fight...

I could understand you arguing about Conor not making 15 Million in a fight, if your Point rested on that fact, But it doesn't...your right rather Conor made 15 Million or not...

and that's why its odd your reusing to except or admit Conor made 15 Million, lol The facts are clearly there stating Conor made 15 Million on the Diaz fight.

The Facts clearly state Conor almost certainly made 15 Million or more at UC 205.

It all comes down to his PPV Points...If Conor gets anything over 8 dollars Per Pay View Buy, then Its over, He made 15 Million in both The Diaz and Eddie fights

and its not hard to figure out how much his PPV's Points were, the site says Conor made 11.5 Million from PPV Buys from UFC 202...

So that's equals a little over 7 dollars a Buy...1.6 Million X 7 equals 11.2(that proves Conor made a little over 7 Dollars per buy at UFC 202)

We have to assume that went up for The Eddie fight, Conor's PPV Points were a little over 7 dollars per buy at UFC 202, His Salary was 3 Million.

It certainly went up at UFC 205, Conor's salary went up 500K to 3.5 Million, I'm sure His PPV Points went up from 7.3 to 8 or 8.5 dollars per buy ...

lol its literally UNDENIBLE....Conor made 15 Million on the Diaz fight and between 14 and 17 Million on The Eddie fight.

If Conor's PPV Point went up slightly from 7.2 to 8 dollars Per Buy...that Means at UFC 205 Conor made 10.4 Million from The 1.3 Million PPV's Sold + his 3.5 Million in Salary, that's 14 Million(Plus 250 K from reebox, 250 K from his after party and 50 K from the Bonus)

If Conor's PPV Points went up even more which is extremely possible considering Conor signed for the fight at the last possible moment and the fact that the UFC was bent over a chair given it was The First New York Card and Conor was the only possible STAR available to headline the card...Conor could have easily got a Big BUMP in Points given the leverage he had for this one card and he could have got maybe 9 or 10 dollars Per Buy...

and if he did, if Conor did get 10 Dollars per buy, that's 13 Million In PPV buys and 3.5 in Disclosed salary Plus 500 K for reebox and the after party which equals 17 Million

at this point after reading this, if you still argue Conor didn't make 15 Million...You only doing it because for some reason it must bother you.

it does nothing to further your point...If you continue to deny he didn't make 15 Million your only Denying it because for some ODD reason you just don't want to admit Conor made 15 Million

lol which is quite weird

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

The most he got that was reported was around $11.5 mil, but that ain't even the point. Floyd isn't offering him just $15 mil. He's offering $15 mil up front, and then a cut of the PPV on the back end. He'd probably see somewhere between $20 mil and $25 mil.... twice what he makes in the UFC. Floyd is offering twice what Notorious makes, and Dana is offering Pretty Boy just one quarter what he normally makes.

I guess this is where you start fudging invisible numbers around to say Lucky the Leprechaun has made $20 mil in a single fight before.

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[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

I guess this is where you start fudging invisible numbers around to say Lucky the Leprechaun has made $20 mil in a single fight before.

ummm no...

you specifically said Conor hasn't made 15 Million in a UFC fight...

I then provided undeniable proof that he has made 15 Million....

The most he got that was reported was around $11.5 mil

right that was his Estimated PPV's revenue...

He also made 3 Million Upfront in Disclosed Salary and 550 K in Bonuses and Sponsorship...

thats over 15 Million.

you were wrong, except it...no need to now change it to 20 million...

You specifically said Conor hasn't made 15 million in a UFC fight and Can't make 15 Million in any upcoming UFC fight...and I unequivocally proved you wrong

and I Proved you wrong NOT by "fudging invisible numbers" but By posting Proof of EXACTLY what Conor made in PPV revenue,Reebox Pay and Bonuses...

lol thats literally the exact opposite of "fudging invisible numbers"....lol I literally Provided "Visible Numbers" that exactly accounted for how Much BOTH Conor and Nate made at UFC 202.

and I then took the exact numbers and estimated what Conor would have made at UFC 205 based on The same "Visible numbers" that Conor made at UFC 202.

lol and its worth noting if anything, I'm Low in my estimate of what Conor made at UFC 205, because again I'm estimating Conor's pay based on the same PPV points he got at UFC 202, and thats almost certainly going to be on the low end...

Conor Won at UFC 202, His PPV's points like his salary would have went slightly up at UFC 205, not stayed the same....

So I can unequivocally say Conor made 15 Million at UFC 202....(Theres literally nothing you can say to argue or dispute UFC 202 and the fact that Conor made 15 Million)

and I can also say if Conor had the exact same contract that he had at UFC 202 for UFC 205, Conor made 14 Million at UFC 205....but again we know thats not true, because We know based on Conors disclosed Salary his pay went up from 3 Million at UFC 202 to 3.5 Million at UFC 205, So Its clear Conor got a new contract for UFC 205 where he clearly got a bump in salary and PPV points...annnnnnnnnd you guessed it, even a small Bump, would take Conor over the 15 Million dollar mark for UFC 205.

so, no need to change the subject and move the goal posts to 20 million...

I'm only arguing 15 Million, and "arguing" is the wrong word, at this point, Theres nothing to argue about, I've literally proved Conor made 15 Million at UFC 202.

so thats it, just take it like a man, You were wrong, You specifically said "Conor hasn't made 15 Million in a UFC fight and couldn't make 15 Million in any upcoming UFC fight"

I disagreed with that, and I disagreed because I 100% knew I could prove Conor had in fact made 15 Million in at least 1 UFC and almost certainly 2.

I then provided undeniable proof by a website that posted BOTH Conor and Nates Estimated pay for UFC 205...

you then stunningly replied with "The most he got that was reported was around $11.5 mil"....which is just hilarious considering I Just Provide proof and a website reporting Conor made 15 million at UFC 202...

Your shame didn't stop there though, You then decided to move the goal posts to 20 million once you realized you were wrong about 15 Million.

but there will be no arguing to 20 Million because I never said Conor made 20 million and in fact all proof and facts suggest he HAS NOT made 20 million in a fight.

again this was only about 15 Million, and it was about 15 Million because you specifically said 15 Million, You only moved to 20 million after you realized you were wrong about 15 Million.

also I still dont know why your arguing, Your overall point is still right...

it doesn't matter if Conor is making 15 Million or not, He still can't make anything close to what he'll make in The Mayweather fight in the UFC...

Conor has made 15 Million in his last 2 UFC fights and clearly could easily make 15 million dollars in his next UFC fight....But that still is nowhere close to what he could make against floyd.

So your point is right, But your just arguing and refusing to admit that Conor made 15 million, which again is odd because it doesn't matter if Conor made 15 million.

its clear at this point 1 of 2 things are happening here.

either you hate me and simply dont want to admit Conor made 15 Million and then have to except you wrong and I beat you

Or You Hate Conor and It bothers you to admit he has in fact made 15 Million in a fight.

either way its quite SAD.

when you are literally faced with Unequivocal proof that you are wrong(The kind of proof Like the website I posted that Estimated BOTH Conor and Nates Pay for UFC 202) and then you literally refuse to except that proof....well thats simply hatred and spite, You either Hate Me or Conor and it really bothers you to be wrong.

Floyd isn't offering him just $15 mil. He's offering $15 mil up front, and then a cut of the PPV on the back end. He'd probably see somewhere between $20 mil and $25 mil.... twice what he makes in the UFC. Floyd is offering twice what Notorious makes, and Dana is offering Pretty Boy just one quarter what he normally makes.

lol I agree...

but thats not what were fighting about and thats not what you said.

You shot your big mouth off and SPECIFICALLY said "Conor has not made 15 Million in a UFC fight"

thats all I'm arguing, Conor Unequivocally has made 15 Million, I provided Proof.

I've said from the beginning, Your right about Conor making more in a Floyd fight than he could in any UFC fight..

I 1000% agree with "He's not just Offering 15 Million, He's offering $15 mil up front, and then a cut of the PPV on the back end. He'd probably see somewhere between $20 mil and $25 mil"

Conor could not make anything close to this ^ in the UFC...

But Conor has and can make 15 Million in a UFC fight....and YOU SPECIFICALLY said he has NOT and COULD NOT...

You were wrong...Period..

Your right about your overall point but Wrong about Conor not making 15 Million...

Deal with it

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[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

What do you want? A cookie? That still don't give him the upper hand in negotiations against Floyd. Floyds offering(mock offer)15not even the ppvs. How is this even an argument. Youre a weirdo. that's why I cant take you serious. You wste time trying to prove youre right over anon-sequitur. Man youre such a waste of space.

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[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

"I then provided undeniable proof that he has made 15 Million...."

Actually you did not. You proved crappy journalism from BJPenn.com and from Yahoo sports, but that is about it. The "source" for your numbers was a men's fashion blog that is basically a cover for some person or persons obsession for Conor. Maybe you should go look at it...terrible.

Sorry, but if you turned this into me as an editor or as a paper, and had that as a source, I would ask you to rewrite it, trash it or lower your grade. The "blog" in question just throws the numbers out and gives no reason or source. They are able to do this because they are not a legit or reputable news source. I think you should take the time to look into sources from given statements and facts before you consider them to be facts. Sorry, but you have proven nothing other than "fake news" is now being used as a source and that you are happy enough to fall for it.

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

Yeah, not sure how much weight I put on that estimation. That same article says Nate earned $13 million.

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[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

What do you want? A cookie? That still don't give him the upper hand in negotiations against Floyd. Floyds offering(mock offer)15not even the ppvs. How is this even an argument. Youre a weirdo. that's why I cant take you serious. You wste time trying to prove youre right over anon-sequitur. Man youre such a waste of space.

no not a cookie, but at this point its time for Dlancer to just admit he was wrong about Conor not making 15 million....

hell he doesn't even have to admit he wrong, just stop arguing that I'm wrong.

I mean I literally provided proof Conor made 15 million at UFC 202....and he responded with "No he's only made 11.5 Million"

Floyds offering(mock offer)15not even the ppvs. How is this even an argument. Youre a weirdo. that's why I cant take you serious. You wste time trying to prove youre right over anon-sequitur. Man youre such a waste of space.

Its not an argument...I've said from the very beginning Dlancer is right....Floyd offers is better than anything Conor could make in the UFC...

I said from the beginning I'm ONLY arguing one point...this-

Like I said, he never got $15 mil for a fight. He got somewhere around $11.5 million for Diaz 2, and most of that was on the back end for his PPV cut. He didn't get $15 million for Alvarez either.

Dlancer said this^, he shot his big mouth off and said something that is clearly not true.

when I first replied I specifically said, "I agree with your overall point but I disagree that Conor hasn't made 15 Million in a UFC fight"

I then provided undeniable proof that Conor did in fact make 15 Million at UFC 202 and made between 14-17 Million at UFC 205

but for some ODD reason Dlancer keep refusing to except it and is sticking with Conor only made 11.5 Million

I 1000% agree with every single thing Dlancer says in this post about Floyds offer...I'm ONLY disagreeing with this- "Like I said, he never got $15 mil for a fight. He got somewhere around $11.5 million for Diaz 2, and most of that was on the back end for his PPV cut. He didn't get $15 million for Alvarez either."

^ I disagreed with this, then proved Dlancer wrong....No Cookie is needed but at this point maybe an "Ok so I was wrong about Conor making 15 Million, My Bad" would be nice

or at the very least maybe him stop saying Conor's only made 11.5 Million despite undeniable proof Conors made 15 Million

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crvnCa9B1pA-New Sig

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[–] BigDDD 8 years ago

Conor doesn't want a boxing match with Floyd, he knows it will end very badly!

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

He'd do it for $15 mil and a cut of the PPV, for sure.

If you can read this then you are trying too hard.

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[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

He'd do it for $15 mil and a cut of the PPV, for sure.

Hed do it naked on a pony fo sho!!

"Hi, excuse me. Can you use your karate to open up this pickle jar?"

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[–] dlancer 8 years ago

Would he do it on a boat? Would he do it with a goat?

If you can read this then you are trying too hard.

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[–] BigDDD 8 years ago

The way UFC is looking at the moment with their biggest stars gone or not fighting for ages they should pay Nate

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

So they did it and everyone made huge amounts of money for a shitty fight that never had any hope of being competitive. Yay. 🙄

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[–] dlancer (2036) 7 years ago

True, but Floyd didn't make nowhere near $25 mil. He probably got upwards of around $200 million.

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

I've read it's $300 million. Easiest money he ever made, good for him. I can see why Pacquiao wants a fight McGregor.

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[–] dlancer (2036) 7 years ago

It's certainly possible. Pac-man and Malignaggi are tripping over each other trying to be the next guy in line. I'd probably go with Paulie because Conor knows he can actually beat him. But who knows, Conor may end up going back to MMA, though he may wait until someone figures out how to beat Khabib ;)

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

Pac is a much bigger fight. I think even Paulie would beat him. Floyd’s strategy was perfect but it had the effect of making McGregor look way better than he was.

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[–] dlancer (2036) 7 years ago

Perhaps, but Conor doesn't have to sacrifice his status as a supreme pugilist for cash any more. He can take a winnable fight while his whiskey pays dividends. You may be right about Paulie, but Paulie is not guaranteed to win by any means. He's probably closer to around 50-50, and oddsmakers will probably have a tough time siding with him.

Pacquiao would offer a lot more money, but he's death on a stick for Conor's image as a top pugilist, and Conor needs that image so his whiskey can continue making diddy bread as he so eloquently put it.

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