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final battle - who copped it?

posted 14 years ago by Scistorian
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Who did Beowulf kill in the final battle: Grendel's Mother or Grendel's Mother's Son?
I was convinced he was fighting Grendel's Mother until the scene on the beach where the dragon seemed to morph into a golden male figure - presumably the son.
If B did kill only the mother then the son is still around to cause the havoc that Grendel did in the first place - so back to square one, albeit minus the mother.
I must have got this wrong somewhere - doesn't make sense otherwise - so someone please tell me where.

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[–] Scistorian 14 years ago

thanks AD, that makes sense. Is that the consensus view everyone? It's just that I thought I saw Mowdor morph into the dragon immediately before battle commenced. It's quite likely that I got this wrong as I viewed this film through the fog of winter flu.
Unconnected: I guess "Mowdor" is where Tolkien's "Mordor" came from, T being into Anglo-Saxon stuff etc.

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[–] Scistorian 14 years ago

"Mowdor"? - I had the subtitles on. I find I pick up more this way than by just listening to the sound. A fair part of the dialogue was in Old English, which I'm not sure would be apparent from the audio alone. Also, a lot of the audio in the heat of battle can be indistinct, but subtitles show it all - give it a go and you'll see what I mean.
Not really on topic but this has reminded me of another Lord of the Rings character - Saruman (spelling?)- I've always wondered who that character was based on in Tolkien's life. Any ideas AD? You need to have read the book for this one.

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[–] KungFuVooDoo 14 years ago

I'm glad I'm not the ONLY one who watches most movies with the subtitles on....

She's gone from suck to blow!

[–] slafter21 14 years ago

Grendel and his mother spoke to each other in old english and when he addressed her he called her "mowdor". Basically just calling her mother.

[–] azayrahmad 14 years ago

no, I don't speak old English, but my instinct told me that it could mean of murder.

His mother asks what did you do? and he answers mordor (or mowdor I don't know) while showing her the dead bodies

[–] El_Sueco 14 years ago

modor/mothor means mother in O.E.

mordor/morthor means murder. (Think of the land of Mordor in LOTR).

Pojkar vill - killar kan.

[–] lorddeseiz 14 years ago

You people pay so no attention. The mother never got killed, or gets killed. Th dragon was the son of beowulf.
And i say gets killed, she doesnt, Wiglaf falls for her spell as well, continuing the story, thats what the end scene means and why it lasts quite a few seconds before endcredits roll, he failed to strike aswell.
Just like Hrotgar and beowulf made a son with the demon, so will Wiglaf, and then the next and then the next and then the next. That is one kingdom you do not want to be king of, even if it means you get to *beep* a demon that looks like Jolie.
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[–] Dream_Demon 13 years ago

If anyone paid attention to the scene where Beowulf sees his dragon son in the cave, you'd see that Beowulf sees the Mother first, sees her float up, and then the dragon son is revealed with the Mother floating right next to him right before the dragon breathes fire at Beowulf. This should make it obvious that the dragon and the Mother are not the same.

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