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One thing I didn't get... (Spoiler)

posted 17 years ago by koffje
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Hi everyone,

Watched the film last night, and really liked it. But one thing I quite didn't get was the picture that Tun was 'forced' to take after the rape. His friend tells him to take it so that she wouldn't talk. But to me it seems that taking the picture actually proves the rape, and is a menace to the group perpetuating it. If she goes to the police or something, she'll acknowledge the rape, and threatening her to reveal the pictures won't make a difference to her at that point, right? Or did I miss something?

OK, just saw that thread that does help clarifying:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440803/board/flat/99145263?p=1

[–] bitterbeerfart 17 years ago

maybye he thought it would be embarrasing for her

[–] thextramile 17 years ago

I'd imagine that after being raped, as much as a girl would want the baddies to be put to justice, she'd be devastated if images of her humiliation were preserved, hence the leverage the bastards gained by taking the photos.

[–] cozzie 17 years ago

I know that in a few foreign countries being raped can bring shame on the family of the victim. i don't know if this is the case in Thailand but it may have been to use as a barganing tool so she wouldn't tell anyone

[–] nedra66 17 years ago

I think you are actually right. Remember people, different cultures mean things are handled differently.

[–] xkrazydogx 17 years ago

Humiliation and shame, if a woman is discovered to have been raped when they arent married, they're considered valueless.
In asian cultures anyway.

[–] Kimberwyn 17 years ago

^So you're saying the majority of women in Asia are virgins when they get married? Lol, I highly doubt that and I think most people claiming that dont actually know much about the culture.

And I still dont buy that because how can they distribute the photos if they're in jail? Couldn't the police have just confiscated the photos? And would they really risk further incriminating themselves by doing that? Not necessarily, they may have been bluffing. They probably couldve gotten some sort of a libel/slander suit against them for that.

And lastly....why didnt she at least turn her head??

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[–] yuna_braska 16 years ago

I'm Asian and I've never heard of this...and I didn't get that scene either!!!

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[–] shimtel 16 years ago

I think the only leverage there was that she was shy, weird with no friends. I think a person, that likes to stay out of public attention. So the picture, in my opinion, is not necessary at all, as an only reaction of a lonely girl from a village in the big unfriendly city, after such, let put it, shocking events - is suicide. Raping some people is in fact killing them. ANd she was that kind. Taking her picture maybe just made the torture even bigger, but not affected so much her next step.

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[–] LongarmPrime25 15 years ago

I didn't get much either. I think they wanted to take photos to humiliate her. Maybe it would have bought shame on her famliy. Whatever the reason, they got their just deserts in the end.

[–] vicky_lc2001-1 15 years ago

Are you Asian American? Or raised with a Western mentality?

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[–] sadisticpumpkin 14 years ago

1. I think they were all drunk so they probably weren't thinking clearly.
2. They took the pictures to blackmail her. She was weird and it was her word against all of theirs. So I assume they planned on saying she was just a slut and that she had sex with all of them willingly. Guys like that wouldn't hesitate to lie and since she had no friends they might have thought they could get away with it.
3. I think you maybe underestimating the shame a woman can feel from being raped. It can cause all sorts of emotional problems and with the threat of pictures being shown around to everyone. I'm sure that didn't help her mental state.
4. A lot of women do not report sexual assault. It is said 60% are not reported in the U.S. I don't know but I imagine it would be the same if not more in Thailand.
5. They had to take the pictures so Jane could find them in the end and figure it all out. You couldn't depend on Tun to ever tell her if he didn't have to. Although he seemed pretty helpless he was a good liar. The pictures just tied the plot together.

[–] BirdCageLive 14 years ago

I think they took her picture so that if she did go to the police they could use it and say she wanted to have sex. Kind of like, "If she was raped then why did she stay around and take pictures?" I don't know.

[–] itsahoverboard 14 years ago

i came here to complain about the same thing. obviously he's a photographer so it makes for a nice twist that he shot his friends raping her, but it just doesn't make sense. if she was going to tell the police, taking the picture wouldn't do anything but incriminate them even further. it was just a twist the screenwriter tried to sneak in there without really justifying it very well.

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[–] danish_dynamite101 13 years ago

it is completely justified. you clearly have no idea about the culture in thailand/many countries in asia.

[–] itsahoverboard 13 years ago

not that it matters, but my mother is korean and i spent some years growing up in her homeland. but yes, the boys taking a picture was only there to service the plot. if shame was the issue, then they didn't need to do anything because she wouldn't have admitted it to the police in the first place.

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[–] Flabrezu 13 years ago

It's a cultural thing in Asia, which you can commonly come across in movies.

[–] MarleysForeheadHole 13 years ago

In Asian countries, there have been women committing suicide because their private sex tape leaked. It is highly embarrassing as well as degrading for some Asian women to have their naked pictures or videos exposed. Sex tapes are even more shameful. As some comments have mentioned, it's a cultural things. I'm thai and am a senior in college. 80 percent of the girls in my major, you can really tell that, are still virgins. You may find it's hard to believe if you are not accustomed with the culture, but it's true. I'm not saying all of Thai girls are like this, because there are some that are more open about these stuff. But lots of them are still conservative.

[–] peterleach797 12 years ago

Nah, to blame it on the 'cultural thing' is way off. Let's get this straight, regardless of who you are, and regardless of where you live, a photo like that is going to cause discomfort. This is not a sex tape or a naked picture. It is a photo of a rape being enacted. It has nothing to do with 'culture'. P.s I grew up in Khon Kaen and you gotta lower your 80% mark my friend.