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The scene where the queen's land rover breaks down


Does anyone else think that it was a bit ridiculous? I mean where were the Met Police Royalty Protection Branch officers? I highly doubt they would allow the head of state of the United Kingdom to roam about without any protection. I realize she was on a huge royal estate at the time but still. Suppose the IRA or Al Qaeda were able to sneak past the perimeter security?

Dont you Brits have any concept of VIP protection? For starters go to Google and type in US Secret Service - you might learn a few tips.

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I don't know about the practices of the Royal Protection Officers, but if the Queen hadn't been alone, there would not have been the brief emotional scene of reflection or the wonderful encounter with the stag.

As they say, "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story." :)

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First you decry this scene as "a bit ridiculous" because there were no police officers around, as though you think the filmmakers were showing an unrealistic scenario, that the Queen would always have security at hand. (She did, you notice, have a mobile phone which allowed her to summon help quickly.)

Then you turn around and decry the British for not having "any concept of VIP protection", clearly implying that you believe the scene to be accurate. (The suggestion that "you Brits" are amateurs in the area of security is quite insulting, by the way; the UK has been dealing with terrorism for decades now, and no member of the immediate royal family has ever been injured on British soil, either by the IRA or by Al Queda. It's certainly a record the USA can't match; over the past 150 years no fewer than four American presidents have been assassinated, and a fifth (Reagan) very nearly joined the list.)

So which is it? Either you accept the premise that the Queen moves about freely on her private estates without security (something for which there is ample evidence), or you do not. You can't have it both ways.

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From what I've heard and read, the royal family is free to roam about their own estates without security, and I remember reading that her car did, indeed, break down at one point. However, she didn't have to wait long for assistance.

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What got me is that she damages the vehicle crossing an ordinary looking stream. Being that is what Land Rovers are built for, it doesn't say much about the make, does it?

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She should have driven a Jeep! (chuckle)

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clearly this scene was scripted for the Land Rover to break an axle. Not really fair to criticize Land Rover for poor quality over a fictional breakdown, if you think about it.

The scene was scripted to create a situation in which the Queen could be alone to reflect on the events of the ongoing week alone, in a beautiful setting, and see the stag. The Land Rover breaking down is just a plot device to get her there. We as viewers shouldn't read more into than that, I think.

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Earlier in the movie, Prince Philip riles his spouse for still driving in that clapped-out Rover.

So, Jeeps, LandCruisers and Pajeros never break down?

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Earlier in the movie, Prince Philip riles his spouse for still driving in that clapped-out Rover.

So, Jeeps, LandCruisers and Pajeros never break down?


It was her son, Prince Charles, who made this comment as he got in the car with her, but you are right: the statement was made, setting up the later scene in which she gets stuck in the river.

A flood's not the answer, people just float.

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Well said, Lynettecon.


"Who put the pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?"

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thanks, asoloway.

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It was the one scene in the film where I th,ought "there is no way they would let the Queen of England drive out on her own without at least one member of security."

But who knows, as some people have said on this thread, maybe they are permitted to drive alone on their estate and maybe she did do that

Are there any message boards that don't have a post by Premmie?

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Dont you Brits have any concept of VIP protection? For starters go to Google and type in US Secret Service - you might learn a few tips.


You believe everything you see on TV?

Many US army units were founded on British ones and we had intelligence and highly effective army units long before the US was even founded (which based it's Rangers and Delta on British models).

How many US Presidents have been assassinated? Google that, moron.

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What you DIDN'T see was the 14 security helicopters hovering behind the trees, 27 hidden security snipers in the hills & 47 security frogmen in the stream/river (there were 50, but 3 got flattened when she drove over them) ...

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But luckily the three crushed corpses in the river were really paedophiles...

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For starters go to Google and type in US Secret Service - you might learn a few tips.


Four American Presidents have been assassinated. No British Monarch has ever been assassinated.

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well-said.

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And only one British Prime Minister (way back in 1812). Either we have better security guys or the lack of guns makes for less opportunity. Prince Charles' uncle was assassinated, though - and there was an attempt to blow up Maggie Thatcher. Either way, a PM is a more likely target for assassination that than a monarch (these days) since the monarch has no power and is pretty much a government puppet. The PM is the closest equivalent to the US President.







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I guess you don't count Charles I.

let's go and say a prayer for a boy who couldn't run as fast as I could

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I found this scene very odd as well. It strains credibility that the queen of England would be able to get into a jeep by herself and drive off to even a slightly remote location. I found it bizarre, but all the same, it didn't undermine the film's narrative too much.

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The Queen is on her own private land - She's allowed to do whatever she wants - She's the Queen.
Plus there would be security all over the place.
Good luck to anyway who would be able to wander onto the grounds and go undetected.
I live in New Zealand and my family has acres upon acres of land that we still own - It is in the middle of nowhere and very remote - I have been going there my entire life and I can be walking alone in the middle of nowhere at any time of the day and night and I feel like it's the safest place to be in the entire world.
So from this perspective I can totally believe that the Queen would be allowed to wander alone on her own land.

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Here in Finland there's this story about our former (1982-1994) president Mauno Koivisto. He usually spent his summers at the president's summer residence in the countryside. Once, his wife was baking something but ran out of milk and he suddenly decides that he will fetch some milk from a nearby general store. He then mounts a bicycle and cycles past his bodyguards, claiming he's going to the general store to do some shopping. These poor fellows try to chase him on foot and beg him to stop, to no avail. They head back to the residence to get a car and drive after the president but when they finally find him, he is already on his way back, with a carton of milk in his hand!

Extensive security measures of the U.S. president are a very recent thing. For example, James A. Garfield was assassinated (1881) while he was waiting for a train with his two sons and no security, amongst the common folk! Theodore Roosevelt was shot with a .38 (1912) but refused to go to a hospital and instead went on with his speech. In 1950, two Puerto Ricans opened fire in front of a small townhouse in Washington where president Harry S. Truman was living at the time. This was a common townhouse, next to a public street, only guarded by a few police officers and secret service men. Truman was actually in the second floor having a nap when bullets started flying outside. Even Kennedy's assassination didn't really change the way the Secret Service acted.

Many important persons have surprisingly lax security because with the basics, few bodyguards, armored car and such in public places, 99% of the assassins are discouraged. To prevent the remaining 1% from carrying out their deed, you'd need insane security like that of the aforementioned U.S. president and still, they might somehow get lucky. So, I'd say that the scene in the film is totally plausible.

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I live in Edinburgh,not very far from the Palace Of Holyrood House,where the Queen stays when she is in Scotland.

The palace is next to a huge royal park (Holyrood Park) it was well known that the Queen used to love getting up early and walking her dogs in her park,she was usually on her own,at least her escorts were nowhere to be seen.

This was certainly true in the 1960s and early 1970s.

My father worked at the Palace mid 1960s until 1970 and while he was not a fan of the monarchy he was impressed when he saw the Queen more than once wandering about with her dogs dressed in ordinary clothes.

Of course since the 1970s the Queen is much older and the problems with the IRA other terror groups perhaps mean she stopped public dog walking but the film shows her on her own large estate not a public place like the park so I don't doubt the realism of that scene.

I have seen the Queen and Prince Philip during public events and the police escort look professional to me.

Of course I am not a security professional but I work at a location where we often get Royal visits and there is a lot of attention to detail.

I am sure that being ex Royal protection is a great selling point if you want another job somewhere else,I think they have a great reputation.

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Well, yes, obviously security is very tight, and very professional, at public events. Private, unpublicised, unscheduled events can probably be less obtrusively managed. And traditionally Balmoral is the one place where the Royals can try to live slightly more normal lives, or at least pretend to do so. I expect in the present climate of terrorism, even at Balmoral there has to be more security than they would wish.

One summer evening a few years ago my partner and I were walking past St James's Palace (small, mostly Tudor, royal palace, still an official residence, about half a mile from Buckingham Palace, FYI non-Londoners), and outside the entrance there was one police officer supervising a little row of traffic cones. Would you mind walking outside the cones? he asked us. Yes, OK, we said, doing so. And out of the Palace came a limousine, and in it was the Queen, with her driver, a lady-in-waiting and one security guy. No outriders, nobody with visible weapons. They were probably only going to Buckingham Palace, a few minutes' drive.

The Queen looked at me; I kind of ducked my head and smiled at her and she smiled back as the car drove away. And I wondered, as we walked on, whether she ever wishes she could walk down St James's Street with her man on a sunny evening? We were formally dressed, as we were going to a dinner in my partner's club in Pall Mall; I'm thirty years younger than the Queen but not entirely unlike - grey curls, posh frock, neat little handbag... Does she sometimes wonder what normal life might be like?

I wouldn't want to live her life.

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