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Liberal dystopian future

posted 8 years ago by april89
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All the films imagine the fascist governments of tomorrow having traditional, conservative populist values.

However, I actually think we are going in a different direction.

Questioning multiculturalism, gender fluidity, legal and illegal immigration of Muslims and their lack of assimilation, as well as the LGBT movement has become not only a taboo, but kind of illegal.

On the other hand, being a practicing Christian is considered funny and obsolete, ranging from teasing in the West to no one giving a *beep* about what happens to Middle-Eastern Christians.

We already have regimes in this world very similar to the one in V for Vendetta- Russia being a notable example.

But will Western Powers(UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Canada, USA when Democrats win again) turn into an ideological opposite but de facto equivalent?

The reason no one has dared make such a film until now just actually shows you that it's becoming a reality.

[–] garryduffy 8 years ago

Well, that's a pretty convoluted, twisted attempt at making an ideological screed.

[–] april89 8 years ago

It's ok not to agree, but as a rational person, do you believe such a thing is impossible, and why?

[–] DrPeppersEmptyCan 8 years ago

Your mistake was taking this movie's premise at face value.

When Hugh Laurie goes for a colonoscopy there is a doctor in the House.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

Questioning multiculturalism, gender fluidity, legal and illegal immigration of Muslims and their lack of assimilation, as well as the LGBT movement has become not only a taboo, but kind of illegal

Who's ever been arrested for questioning those things?

And what's the problem with Muslims not assimilating? Ever been to Little China? Little Italy? Little Tokyo? There are entire areas of cities that look more like Mexico than the U.S.

It's not a Muslim thing to not assimilate. It's a cultural thing.

On the other hand, being a practicing Christian is considered funny and obsolete,

Part of that is due to Christians still being the dominant religion, yet thinking that's reason enough for the government itself to follow Christian values. That's should never happen.

to no one giving a *beep* about what happens to Middle-Eastern Christians.

I care very much what happens to them. It saddens me if they're harassed or attacked.

The reason no one has dared make such a film until now just actually shows you that it's becoming a reality.

Well, no, I don't see how.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

[–] april89 8 years ago

The point of my question wasn't that USA/EU are a liberal dictatorship, but that, in case they became dictatorships after an apocalyptic scenario, they probably wouldn't become classically conservative fascist like all of these Post apocalyptic movies show.

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[–] ConsciencePending 8 years ago

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[–] stevenx9 8 years ago

I don't get your point, because any government with the totalitarian nature portrayed in this movie would, by definition, not be liberal. Liberal means providing equal rights, to the greatest extent possible, to as many citizens as possible. Many dictatorships call themselves "socialist", but that is in name only, for propaganda purposes. Primary example: The National Socialist German Workers Party, or Nazis. They were certainly not liberal or left-wing in any way. So any government that evolves to the point described in movies like this one would not be liberal. That would include the western powers you named. I believe you are saying that if these nations become dictatorships in the future, maybe because of some apocalyptic event, that they would be leftist dictatorships. But I think that if they were to become dictatorships, in the process they would cease to be leftist, or liberal.

[–] nigelpryor-11440 8 years ago

Is there a reason why you are posting this EXACT SAME thread on multiple boards of dystopian sci fi movies? lol just saw the same thread over on the Children of Men board. The EXACT same thread. You didn't even edit it to fit the movie.

And the government in V for Vendetta is MOST DEFINITELY a conservative government. Nothing liberal about it. But I do know you conservatives twist things to fit your world view.. Its just how you are. Its okay.

[–] Colonel-Lingus 8 years ago

"Progressives" always accuse others of exactly what it is they are doing. IE it's not racism it's "affirmative action"

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 8 years ago

Amen! You just nailed it.

The Left is always whining that the Right is fascistic, when in reality it's the other way around. They want the government to have total control so that they can obtain their socialistic utopia where everyone is happy and has exactly the same.
And there are unicorns and rainbows everywhere.

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