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Vanessa was a brat

posted 14 years ago by Fiery_Aries
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I know this movie is like five years old, and that this has probably been said many times already, but I really had trouble showing much sympathy for Vanessa after how she treated her mom.
I mean, telling her mom "it's not your damn business", slamming the door in her face, and just pretty much just utter disrespect kind of takes her innocence away.

And for those that sympathize with how she was in a "bad mood" because of how she was treated at school, she still disrespected her mom about the birthday party before any of the bullying happened.

so.. that pretty much shows probably before and after what happened, she was still mean to her mom. I wish instead they would've made her more of a super-nice girl that was an ideal child (who didn't talk back to her mom), and then have her personality start to change. but then again, it's a lifetime movie so you can't make too many judgments.

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[–] Mithrandir-Olorin33 14 years ago

Those are very typical teenage Parent issues, but ultimately I can't hold any of that against her.

The only real mistake I feel she made was denying that she liked Tony, but that's not much, it's still not her fault he wasn't interested in Stacey and she did tell him Stacey was into him like she said she would.

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[–] blondcutie1972 11 years ago

She was just frustrated about what was going on with her life, being ostrasized and bullied by people who she thought were her friends, i don't think she meant to take it out on her mother.

[–] psychfan21 14 years ago

You would apparently only find it possible to sympathize with an "ideal child"...sheesh. You have trouble garnering sympathy for a character that shows any flaws as a human? Please, never have kids of your own. Teenage girls having spats with their moms is hardly something new, you can have a "bad mood" even if you aren't being tortured and ostracized by your "friends", and having a "good girl ideal child" would have been more than unbelievable...the fact that she was popular,got good grades and excelled in sports was more than many average teens have going for them...your insinuation that the only way she could have been truly relatable to you is if she had been the perfect kid is just sickening...she was a nice kid who had a lot going for her, and having a couple blow ups at her mom doesn't make her so deserving of that cruel treatment, that the no one could feel for the pain she was in. I sure hope you have never had a bad mood or blown up at anyone...heaven only knows what sort of tradgedies you would be unwittingly making yourself deserving of...but at least when you get run over by a bus or whatever, you will understand why no one has any sympathy...that will teach you to have a bad mood every now and then.
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[–] Gypsy_Violins 14 years ago

It may have come off that she was bratty, but I think it was to show a personality change - give alert that something was going on with her that her behavior was this way. She was "acting out" as they say.

[–] deem714 14 years ago

QF with her mother telling her to "deal with it now or she will be forever running" is pretty heartless.

her mother also told her to apolize to Stacy without even knowing if Nessa did anything wrong!

Mom's an ahole for having those pills in the hall bathroom, though!

When did she disrespect her mom (not joking around) before they started bullying her? the first thing they did that was bullying I consider was the first day in the film -- they went to that posh shop in the mall and made nessa steal that blouse or something! barely ten minutes into the movie!

Nessa was a wimp, though... she was laughing when they were all making fun of Emily, and then secretly goes to the soccer tryouts.

You're laborers, you're supposed to be laboring! That's what you get for not having an education!!

[–] rosek102 13 years ago

I think you have to have been bullied yourself--or know someone who has been--to really understand how it eats away at a young girl's psyche and changes her entire personality. If you recall early in the movie, Vanessa and her mom had a great relationship; they talked and laughed together all the time. Vanessa's behavior didn't change until the harassment at school really spiraled out of control. She was young, naive, completely miserable, and unable to deal with it on her own, and like many kids in that situation, she didn't know where to turn. Considering what she was going through, I think it was totally understandable how she lashed out at her mom. It wasn't appropriate or fair to do to her mother, but I can certainly understand it.

[–] honeybee1982 11 years ago

i know i'm really late on this reply but i think what the op was referring to was in the beginning of the movie when they were talking about stacy's party and she said something like "she doesn't want your help, god!" or something but honestly i figured that was just her reacting to feeling like she wished they had more money like stacy or nikki's family and tbh kinda typical teenage behavior