There is a clear statement that Al Quada did not exist and the relation to Bin Laden did not exist till post sept 11 and invented by the US.
Please watch the movie "The Seige" where they reference both Al Quada and Bin Laden and was on screens before Sept 11th.
So if this is untrue - how much more of this series is unfounded?
Is this series just as much propaganda as they are claiming the threat is.
Where is your "clear statement" that Al Qaeda did not exist until after Sept 11?
What was actually stated was that Al Qaeda were an invention of the USA to enable them to prosecute Bin Laden under organised crime laws. What the documentary did clearly state was that this particular court case began in January 2001. It was even displayed as an on screen caption as well.
If you wish to criticise this documentary, at least try watching it first...
quoting the siege and even misspelling it. i applaud you.
A clear crock of *beep* is more like it.
The threat is real, whether conspiracy freaks want to face it or not.
http://www.nefafoundation.org/video/islamic.wmv
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i think you show that you did not get the idea of the documentary by giving link to this video.. pls watch the documentary again and carefully..
first of all, the documentary DOES NOT say that there are no radical islamists (indeed, it says they exist).. the video that you sent shows several of these radical islamists (they are supporting the radical palastines who are involved in the israeli-palastine struggle)..
what the documentary tries to explain is that the neo-conservatives try to mobilize the masses (of especially US and, if they can, other countries) by using politics of fear.. they create a made-up global network of terrorism, and exaggerate the terrorist threat.. it says that what there actually is "the idea prevalent among muslims" (increased after 9/11 as a result of anti-islam politics including the invasion of iraq).. and this anti-western (especially anti-american and anti-british) idea among muslims is the real threat, not the al quada.. this idea will continue to expand among muslims if anti-islam politics continue..
(i personally agree with most of the claims here)
i thought that the messages that the docu gave was simple to grasp, but i was wrong as i see it now.. watch it again and keep your prejudices at minimum..
"the documentary DOES NOT say that there are no radical islamists...
the neo-conservatives...create a made-up global network of terrorism"
contradiction?
It doesn't matter how complex the network is, all it takes is a few ideologues to kill dozens.
And i'm sure Hannah Arendt and Leo Strauss exaggerated the extent of Nazi war crimes to justify their positions as moral philosophers. Looking for the new anti-Semitism? Just talk to your nearest liberal.
here we go the Godwin's law...
sharewhat the documentary tries to explain is that the neo-conservatives try to mobilize the masses (of especially US and, if they can, other countries) by using politics of fear
And as I stated, it's a crock of *beep* Anyone with half a brain can figure out that the threats we face are real, and the only way to handle them is to destroy them. >>
All right, but how can you recognize the al qaeda or any of the other Arab terrorists. They all look alike. They don't wear uniforms, name tags or any other ID to tell the difference, and they're not about to admit anything looking down a gun barrel. So all our troops can do is raid Sunni insurgent's houses and assume the Arabs inside are terrorists.
Not awed by terrorist buzzwords Richard
All right, but how can you recognize the al qaeda or any of the other Arab terrorists.
They all look alike.
They don't wear uniforms, name tags or any other ID to tell the difference, and they're not about to admit anything looking down a gun barrel.
So all our troops can do is raid Sunni insurgent's houses and assume the Arabs inside are terrorists.
Excuse me >Ddey65<, but I must say,
"Sir, you are a RASCIST!!!"
"All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain. Time to die."
And I have to say you don't know what the *beep* you're talking about, MaggotJism! "Racist?!" Give me a break! If you want to look for racists, just check out those jihadist scumbags in Sudan known as the Janjaweed! Arabs killing Native Africans, whether they've converted to Islam or not, and when we call them the *beep* they are for doing it, they accuse us of being manipulated by Jews! Or better yet, try the Taliban. When they were in power, they attacked Buddhists and Hindues, just because they were Buddhists and Hindues! So don't go handing me your cock-and-bull accusations of racism!!
You are not racist, you are brainwashed.
You are just indoctrinated and afraid of being wrong and having to admit that you (like many others) have been played for a fool.
Here's a quote that didn't make FOX News or CNN but made all of the European Papers that do not have a political agenda.
"From circles around Palazzo Chigi, nerve centre of direction of Italian intelligence, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is testified from the fact that Osama bin Laden in it 'confessed' that Al Qaeda would have been the author of the attack of the 11 September to the Twin Towers in New York, while all of the democratic circles of America and of Europe, with in the forefront those of the Italian centre-left, now know well that the disastrous attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan. For this, no word of solidarity arrived to Silvio Berlusconi, who has been the author of the brilliant falsification, neither from the Quirinale, nor from Palazzo Chigi, nor from representatives of the centre-left!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Cossiga
That was picked up in the weatern media after being front page news in Italy. You may not've heard of Cossiga, but he was President of Italy for seven years and was the whistleblower on a scandal on the 1970's and 80's called "Operation Gladio".
Go and look it up.
Intelligence services have been trying to make people afraid of terrorism for years. They found the easiest way of doing this was to be terrorists themselves.
"There must be some way outta here" said the Joker to the Thief.
You are not racist, you are brainwashed.
Here's a quote that didn't make FOX News or CNN but made all of the European Papers that do not have a political agenda.
Oh thanks... I did a lot of research about 9/11 in the last few months and that was my conclusion,too. but I never heard about this news story... The fact that it never echoed in th US media is pretty reassuring I think...
shareI've read a load of *beep* in my time, but that takes the biscuit.
There is no way that the CIA and Mossad brought down the Twin Towers in order to scare people into supporting a war in the Middle East. It was a terrorist attack, but it was not the terrorist attack the U.S claimed it was. It was not the grand finale of a scheme foiled by a massive Islamic terrorist organisation called Al Quaeda, no, that was what the Americans wanted it to be. It was a terrorist attack committed by Islamic fundamentalists, but not the plan of some massive organization. Al Quaeda did not exist before September 11th 2001. It was created by the government. The attacks had nothing to do with Iraq, but it gave them an excuse. It was certainly not the conspiracy you're making it out to be.
Al Quaeda did not exist before September 11th 2001.
It was created by the government.
Well go to Afghanistan and tell them that.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
I used to have a nostradamus book in middle school (I graduated in 2000) which mentioned Bin Laden (along with Abu Nidal) as a possible cannidate for Mabus (the third anti-christ). I find it it ironic people are saying his threat was invented when he was enough of a threat that nn the 90's a book speculated that he might be the third anti-christ.
When You Do Things Right People Won't Be Sure You've Done Anything At All
I'm more impressed that Nostradamus was apparently still writing books in the 90's since he died 500 years ago.
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