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couldn't stand Hayley or this movie


For the majority of the movie, I didn't even give a *beep* that he was into teenage girls (which is not technically pedophilia but that's not the point), I just wanted him to kill the annoying brat.



The issue with Hayley is that, similarly to Ellen Page in Juno, she is written to say such unnatural lines for a 14 year old. When she isn't being her witty Juno hipster self, she sounds like she is reading from a pamphlet (and frankly I don't know which of these is more irritating). It got so ridiculous at some points, the lectures she was giving on "when a teenage girl flirts blah blah, when she wants to drink, you take it from her" - note that I am not debating these statements being correct, I am debating the value of a movie that is nothing more than some type of promotional material of the "pedophilia" awareness campaign or some *beep*. She was not a character, she was a propaganda. And even if I'd normally agree with such propaganda, a movie is supposed to be something more.



Which was why I expected at least another layer of depth. Him winning, or maybe giving his character some more complexity or some moral ambiguity to make this more interesting. But no, she keeps being a poster child for "every girl who was ever raped..." (lol), he is the bad guy, the audience must love seeing such a bad pedo get tortured and humiliated during the whole movie and then lose at the end. There was at no point some counterbalance or anything. Except that even despite his character being a straw man, the actor was so good and the character still managed to show so much more humanity and personality than the obnoxious Hayley that I wouldn't be surprised many end up rooting for him. If for nothing, then sheer annoyance.



And the more intelligent viewer would ask the questions that the writers and the director had no guts to ask, which is to explore him more, his motivations, background etc. What made him become who he is. We get some insight into his personal story but it never gets explored enough. Because that is the interesting part when watching something that is supposed to make you think. Not some one dimensional poorly written teenage girl "fighting a good fight." Because of that, despite everyone's intentions, he ends up being the focus of interest and even sympathy. She is on the other hand an epic fail.




It's like an idiot made this movie to rant about a social issue. The whole script is a fantasy of someone who argues too much online about whether or not some actress is too young for guys to call her hot. I don't know, it was just so simplistic and immature it's laughable.

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you might consider seeking professional help.

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I considered it, but there are better activities to spend money on.


Seriously though, thank you for the insightful reply. You really elaborated your point there. Thought-provoking.

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For real brother; was with u, but you can't argue with that. He's got you there! Maybe work a little harder to ruin this medium, progress to absolute futility. Etc etc etc.

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Well Ellen was a weird choice, for one thing. I rated the movie a 7 just because it did a good job overall.

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You completely summed up my reasons for being disappointed with this movie, and Paige's performance, in particular.

"Tahiti is not in Europe . . . I'm going to be SICK."

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I think that's why some people were rooting for the guy. I wanted him to end up in prison for his actions but wouldn't have minded him offing the stupid annoying bitch first lol.

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So true. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but fuck that little cunt! She was a total nutcase.

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yeah, fuck the vigilante. go criminal, right?

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Exactly.

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In the beginning I wanted to find out that he wasn't a man who enjoyed looking at underaged girls and I felt sorry for him when he told the story about being held over the burner with his pants down.

But the truth is, that as an adult, he chose to give in (maybe not ALL the way, but enough) to his unnatural and criminal sexual attraction to little girls and he committed multiple crimes in this movie. From allowing an underaged person to drink alcohol, to taking/owning pornographic pictures of underaged girls and being an accomplice to a murder.

He deserved everything he got in my opinion.

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Perfectly said, I completely agree. Chances are youll never get to see this reply (7 yrs later).... But goddamn was it refreshing finally coming across some fucking concise and realistic (an also elegantly written) review. Instead of the surrounding cesspool of one note bovine american/dullards spewing the same the same single sentence screed; ironically shining thru as the very one-note blatent souless charictor that is the very core of the films failure.
Forgive the grammatical nightmare above luckily they're probably never be read anyway but but it's nice seeing some arguments for consciousness every now and then can I see a lunacy .
Cheers!

Ps. But... You're obviously a pedophile and completely deranged etc etc etc. Blah blah. Bwhahaha! Lol. These fuckin lunatics

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