or something to that effect. Why did the mother say that to George while looking him seriously in the eye? Was she saying they should be having lots of babies soon, from all that diddlin'? or was she saying there must be something wrong with his wife if they hadn't had kids yet?
shareNeither. She's saying she thinks he's perfect. Everyone seems to. He does what pleases others, not himself. And I think she needs to believe it, at least at that moment.
"I'll book you. I'll book you on something. I'll find something in the book to book you on."
It certainly was a non sequiter for the audience. But it implies that George knows what she means and why she is saying it.
i think she is saying it, because she thinks that George thinks that Madeline will think George is low rent now that she has seen his down home family.
I took it to mean that Peg thought George could do better than Madeline.
shareI thought the same. Before that the Mom said "well, she's got good hands, I'll give you that" It seemed both parents disliked her.
butterfly5700wrote:
It seemed both parents disliked her.I thought it was clear that the father liked her a lot, and the mother would never accept that another woman was more important to her son than she was.For easy markup in Firefox & Opera, see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/42255 share
I thought the father disliked her because of the way he hid the woodcarving of the bird from her and didn't want to share the rest of the stuff he made. He seemed pretty cold when she hugged him, too.
I keep missing the scene where she is crying outside so I probably missed something crucial there.
butterfly5700 wrote:
I thought the father disliked her because of the way he hid the woodcarving of the bird from her and didn't want to share the rest of the stuff he made.I can think of a couple of reasons why Eugene might not want to show Madeleine his wood carvings that have nothing to do with his disliking her. One guess: She would never say anything bad about the carvings, but she does professionally evaluate folk art, and there is no way she could not look at them with a professional eye. He may not want to expose himself to critical, even if unstated, judgment.
He seemed pretty cold when she hugged him, too.
Eugene:I have done some screwing in here, I guess.Madeleine on the floor is quite sexy, and I think we can guess what is on Eugene's mind. Eugene is sexually attracted to Madeleine, and it makes him nervous. He does not make Johnny's mistake of confusing her warmth with sexual desire.The morning after the Huckleberry Finn episode:
Eugene: I like her.* She means well. George likes her.Peg: She doesn't know George.Eugene: She loves him.Peg: What do they have in common? Eugene: He loves her. Peg:And then she's up all hours with Johnny? I don't like it. I want you to say something to her. Are you listening to me? Don't be stupid. But just find out if she and George are happy. And tell her Johnny and Ashley are real happy. We don't need some stranger coming in here messing things up. Eugene: She ain't a stranger. She's family. Peg: She's still strange. She's older. She's too pretty. And she's too smart and that's a deadly combination.. . . Madeleine: She's a very strong personality, isn't she? Eugene: That's just her way. She's not like that inside. She hides herself. Like most.This does not sound to me like someone who dislikes Madeleine.The bottom line is that I do not detect any hostility or dislike in Eugene's interactions with Madeleine.*The nonofficial transcript, script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/j/junebug-script-transcript-amy-adams. html, has, "I like her," the French subtitle has, "Je l'aime bien." I admit that it sounds to me like, "I don't like her," but that does not fit with the rest of the dialogue.For easy markup in Firefox & Opera, see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/42255 share
I think the father liked Madeleine. When he was blowing up the air mattress, he said to himsrlf something like "I'll make her a bird."
I assume he meant Madeleine. He was willing to accept her as family.
"Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"
You don't know basic French. "Je l'aime bien" means "I like/love her well." (I would translate it as "I like her well enough" or "pretty well.")
Maybe you're confusing "bien" (well) with "rien" (nothing). But I don't understand how you would conclude that a phrase in a foreign language that you don't really understand would "sound to you" like its exact opposite...
tomhenehan wrote:
But I don't understand how you would conclude that a phrase in a foreign language that you don't really understand would "sound to you" like its exact opposite...I didn't. I suggest that you read what I wrote again. It is really not that hard to understand.
Eugene: I like her.* She means well. George likes her.
*The nonofficial transcript, http://script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/j/junebug-script-transcript-amy -adams.html, has, "I like her," the French subtitle has, "Je l'aime bien." I admit that it sounds to me like, "I don't like her," but that does not fit with the rest of the dialogue.
Right before she said "There isn't a thing wrong with you" George says something like..... Oh well, one of these days she will find out all my flaws....
To me that is why the mom said that to George. It made sense. A son says he has flaws and a typical mom always telling her children they are "perfect." Just the way I interpreted the conversation.
lauriemacc wrote:
To me that is why the mom said that to George.
George: I guess she'll find out all my faults, sooner or later.. . . Peg:But you don't have a thing wrong with you George...not a thing.A couple of times Peg has said that Madeleine does not understand her son, implying, of course, that she understands him better than anyone else ever will.I think that the point of this scene, and the reason that George laughs, is that Peg does not understand George at all. She never has, and George knows it. Peg may know that George likes mayonnaise, or that he did as a child, but that is about as much as she understands, or ever has, or ever will.For easy markup in Firefox & Opera, see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/42255 share
to ppllkk
I agree with you completely. I hadn't thought about the mayonnaise comment but you are right. Parents tend to remember what their kids liked when they were little but that doesn't mean they know them as an adult. Also, I think Peg felt a little intimadated by Madeleine. Maybe it was the along the same line. She realized Madeleine knows a little bit more of what George likes now that he is an adult and she doesn't.
Thanks for the reply. Enjoyed seeing another idea or way of looking at the situation!!
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