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Has Dakotas Parents ever talked about it?

posted 15 years ago by xPopPunkPrincess
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Why they let there 10 year old Daughter do a rape scene

now, let me say this I haven't seen the movie OR the scene but I've heard it was really awkward and awful to watch

and honestly...I don't think I have to see the actul scene to know how messed up it is

Have her parents ever explained why they let their 10 year old daughter do such a scary scene and how they explained it to her[THATS what I really wanna know, how to you explain that to a little girl]???

it just seems like *beep* parenting to me....I can't see such a young girl handling or understanding that well...

[–] ave2em 15 years ago

10 year old daughter

Dekota was 12 years old when she film this movie.

Here is an article that may answer your question...http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-01-23-fanning-hounddog_x .htm

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[–] smokehill retrievers 15 years ago

When you read Dakota's comments on the scene, you suddenly realize that not only is she exactly right -- but she's far more intellectually and emotionally mature than these dirtbags who criticize the scene --- most of whom have never seen it in the first place.

[–] emailtom 15 years ago

This is really rich. Anybody who believes a rape scene involving a 12 year old is not right or necessary is now considered a "dirtbag". No differing opinions allowed.I suppose with that kind of logic, the person doing the rape must be a hero in your eyes. What a world we have now.

[–] kalex16 15 years ago

Who the hell cares if she was 10 or 12? It's seriously F'ed up that they would let their daughter film a rape scene. I have a daughter of my own and just the thought makes me angry as hell. I couldn't imagine giving permission to have my 12 year old simulate being raped. I don't care how much money they offered. The only reason they decided to do that was for shock value to make money. I'm betting all of the people defending this are also calling for the release of Roman Polanski. That girl was 13 so she is more than capable of dealing with it right ave2em?

[–] Oakley_Fugate 15 years ago

It's called acting and a paycheck! It's okay for some and not for others, If my Daughter wanted to do such a scene, it's her decision

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[–] captkirk_4 15 years ago

I was surprised she was that old, she looked like she was 8 in this. When I was in third grade all the kids were talking about all the salacious things about sex they heard from older siblings so I doubt a 12 year old Hollywood actress was that naive. Just the sound of the rapist cumming seemed a bit over the top to me. The rape of Tony Soprano's shrink seemed more graphic than this.

[–] annamarie05 15 years ago

First of all, Dakota wasn't 10 years old. I don't know where you got that from.
And second, it must be nice being able to say something so far out there, when you haven't even seen the movie. You take other people's insane word for it, and say that's what it must be.
This scene wasn't even close to what people made it out to be. There are far worse things in movies than what was put in this one.

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[–] mikeclaw 15 years ago

Gee, I don't know, did Jodie Foster's mom ever explain "Taxi Driver?" Did Brooke Shields' mom explain "Pretty Baby?" Did Natalie Portman's parents explain "The Professional?" Do you want me to keep going?

These kids are actors. They play dramatic roles. They are sometimes difficult. But the parents work with it, and the directors work to make sure it's not traumatic, and they do psychological screenings.

She was acting. She wasn't really raped.

[–] kalex16 15 years ago

Ok Mickeclaw,

This board was about Dakota Fanning but since you asked:

Jodie Foster's parents, Brooke Shields' parents, and Natalie Portman's Parents were messed up too. "These kids are actors", but they are also KIDS. I'm not a "Hollywood is evil" type but when you have child rape in a movie, that is wrong. These kids are not mature enough to fully understand what they are doing. As a parent I just cannot imagine letting my child be involved in something like that.

I guess some parents just like exploiting their kids for money.

[–] mikeclaw 14 years ago

The fact that Jodie Foster, Brooke Shields and Natalie Portman all went on to Ivy League educations, productive careers and apparently happy lives suggests that they weren't too traumatized.

Did these young actors do difficult scenes? Absolutely. But no one approaches such things carelessly - not the director, not the parents, not the producers. Young actors in roles like these are screened and tested and prepared by child psychologists. If they determine that a kid isn't up for it, they don't do the scene. In many cases, doubles are used for the most difficult shots (Jodie Foster's older sister stood in for a couple of shots in "Taxi Driver"). They don't just say "OK, get the kid in here for the rape scene - and let's roll!"

You say that as a parent, youcan't imagine letting yoru child be involved in something like this. Understandable. Even without difficult scenes, professional acting is a dicey thing for kids. Long hours, hard work, intense pressure, and the risk of parents pushing kids too hard. Nothing wrong with saying you don't want that for your kid.

But when you say "some parents like exploiting their kids for money," you are oversimplifying and casting stones in a very unfair way. You're assuming that your point of view is the only valid one, and anyone who thinks differently is evil.

[–] savanakiss 15 years ago

Dakota is way more mature than all of your kids she's not stupid she doesnt need her parents to explain this to her I'm pretty sure she already knows what the scene is about. Parents and adults are so dumb you try hide things from your kids things they already know and anyways Dakota had a drug problem before she was 11 so i think she can tell the difference between make believe and what sex is. She's a proffesional actor it's her job she has to do and play many parts.

[–] krazeeklown 15 years ago

There are plenty of movies with rape scenes involving minors. The rape scene was very necessary in order to elucidate how the wimpy Buddy sells his girlfriend out. Lewellen, as a precocious young female, pays the price for Buddy and his new girlfriend. This shows how women end up carrying a much bigger cross than men do.

Things such as rape and incest are very real and need to be addressed. Lewellen, through the help of the black man, shows us how a young woman can overcome adversity and find herself.

[–] Stickman38 15 years ago

Just to let you know, there are over 400 films that have some type of child abuse in them. Some are more graphic than others... I would rank Hounndog's rape scene about a 6 on graphic display. There are films much worse than this.

The film actually portrays just how awful and disgusting rape is. I felt really bad for Lewellen after watching that scene. I can only imagine how awful it is for a girl or a woman to go through something like that and then to have someone rub salt in the wounds like Buddy did. But he was just a kid too and probably didn't understand that he just witnessed a crime.

With this being said, Hounddog is a real turd though. The film just sucks. The story is weak, the depiction of 1950s rural south is ridiculous and its another one of these black man saves white girl from all the wicked white people films.

Its not worth watching. You'd be better off wasting 2 hours of your life watching any class B film. LOL! Ok, the film is not "THAT" bad but its is pretty crappy, I'd give it about a 4 out of 10. Its Dakota's worst film for sure.

[–] metal_head1216 15 years ago

Only a 6 on the graphic display? What's worse than this? o.o;;;

No Sparkling Wiggles here!

[–] ave2em 15 years ago

nly a 6 on the graphic display? What's worse than this? o.o;;;

Have you seen "Bastard out of Carolina". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115633/

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[–] reikun86 15 years ago

Don't get me started with Bastard Out of Carolina. I was a mess after watching that movie, but it was also well made with powerful performances.

[–] ChineseRiverCrab 15 years ago

This is really rich. Anybody who believes a rape scene involving a 12 year old is not right or necessary is now considered a "dirtbag".

And people have been spending many posts explaining why it was necessary for the story. As for not right, what is "right"? Our morality as a society is constantly evolving. 100 years ago premarital sex was definitely not "right", but now I don't see anyone caring much as long as they are both consenting adults.

Explain to me, without a whole lot of emotional baggage and using logic alone, what is so "wrong" about the depiction of child rape in films?

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[–] Stickman38 15 years ago

Only a 6 on the graphic display? What's worse than this?

Well, as others have said Bastard Out Of Carolina is worse. There is one scene in Bastard when the girl and her rapist lock lips and she struggles to get away and the scene gets progressively worse. Plus, there's a lot of physical abuse in the film as well, not just sexual abuse. However, I think as a film, Bastard is quite a bit better than Hounndog.

Other films?? Well, I would also say Mysterious Skin is way worse than Hounddog. And the recent hit film at the box office Shutter's Island is worse. Although there aren't any rape scenes but it graphically shows dead children in the film. To me it is worse than Hounddog.

There are about 400 films that portray child abuse and I would say a lot of them are worse than Hounddog. Heck, even Mommie Dearest, the hit film from 1981, is far worse than Hounddog.

[–] crooked_spoons 15 years ago

I was prepared to read and respond to your comments objectively OP, until you stated that you've never actually seen the movie. I suggest you don't see Bastard out of Carolina, The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things, Nothing Is Private, Towelhead, Precious, or several other movies so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities.

"and honestly...I don't think I have to see the actual scene to know how messed up it is ".

Actually yes you do, you've only heard about it though the grapevine apparently, and let me tell you, that grapevine is fcked.

People like to act like rape doesn't happen, especially to children, and that's the problem because it damn well does. I'm willing to be, as sad as it is, that a child is getting raped right now. The scene was neither graphic, nor gratuitous. It happened for all of what, 20/30 seconds and it was over. Nothing but her face was shown.

How is it *beep* up parenting? Dakota sees far more intelligent that some of you people give her credit for, which is good.

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