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The teenage prisoner... what do you think..

posted 8 years ago by Shiny-NZ
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Not sure if I'm really late to this and it's already been discussed but...

What do you think her crime was? (I know, they left it unsaid on purpose but...)

I'm 99% certain she killed her father. Maybe I missed something in her conversation about her childhood? But I don't remember her mentioning her dad.
Anyway, when she found out her mom was at there and she said "tell her I'm sorry, tell her I wish I could take it all back" I thought - oh yeah, she killed her father, probably really brutally with whoever fathered her baby.

Anyone have any alternative theories?

[–] khemphill8907 8 years ago

I like your theory, it makes the most sense. I thought she may have killed a peer or something. I could see the mother not wanting the baby to have anything to do with the person that murdered her husband. It also makes Arizona look like a jackass for defending a psychopath.

[–] Shiny-NZ 8 years ago

The actress even kinda looked a little bit like Courtney Schulhoff... or am I imagining things

[–] khemphill8907 8 years ago

No you're not! Make me think she was loosely based off her! Maybe that's why Shonda omitted the girl's crimes because otherwise it would be going overboard with the reference? Idk, now I'm all excited.

[–] Shiny-NZ 8 years ago

Have we cracked Shonda's code? Smort!

[–] tonyismad 8 years ago

Well, the lawyer said she's a minor. She's not in "juvie", she's doing hard time. This leads me to believe she was tried as an adult, which in the US usually happens to minors accused of murder.
Was it her dad? Maybe. I think she was one of those kids that went bad for no reason at all, since she described her life as pretty much perfect and her mom told Arizona just to watch her daughter, just in case. She probably started with staying out past curfew, bad friends, drinking/drugs, etc. until she killed somebody. I thinks that what she meant by taking it "all" back.

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[–] kem7696 8 years ago

It also makes Arizona look like a jackass for defending a psychopath.

I totally did not think that at all. I saw it as Arizona had a patient and she was trying to do what was best for that patient. If having her mom there during the birth makes it go easier and safer for both the prisoner and baby then thats what she should do.

[–] Thoraxe-the-Impaler 8 years ago

Actually, guilting another person into a situation they dont want to be in over an event Arizona knew nothing about and judging her over it feels it should be unethical.

[–] kem7696 8 years ago

Well apparently she didnt guilt her b/c she didnt go see her daughter. Her voicing her opinion I dont think is unethical. I still think if the mom was willing to raise her daughters kid she could at least be there for the birth and I still think Arizona was right to say what she did.

[–] Shiny-NZ 8 years ago

I mean, I'm just speculating about the girl's crime, so...

I think - from Arizona's perspective, knowing what little she did, and knowing Arizona, I can understand why she went off on the mom like that. But I think the mom's reaction spoke volumes. The mom didn't go off on Arizona back - she could have - but she didn't. To me, that made the scene even more nuanced and complicated - because there was so much unsaid there by the mom. The actress who played the mom was great btw! She reminded me of mom-Lass from Dead Like Me - anyway - the fact that the mom didn't feel like she needed to explain her own POV, or defend herself, that seemed powerful to me.

Like maybe the mom was secure enough in her decision not to be by her daughter's side at that point, like she knew that this doctor didn't know the situation that it didn't really phase her? Or maybe it's mixed with other feelings, like a mother who feels terribly conflicted and guilty about a daughter who has gone off the rails and murdered someone that she doesn't feel like she even can defend her choice? In real life, it would probably be a whole buncha feels. Which is something I think Shonda stays aware of really well.

I dunno. Whatever the case, even though this episode wasn't a High Drama - tense and dangerous episode (like a prison episode could well have been) I think it's one of the recent seasons's better episodes and was a good place to kick off the mid-season.

[–] RavishingAngel 8 years ago

I'm thinking that she killed her father because, despite her "perfect" life, he was sexually abusing her, got her pregnant, and when she tried to tell someone nobody believed her. This would also put an interesting twist on her mom adopting her baby, since the baby isn't just her daughter, but also sort of her sister.

[–] Shiny-NZ 8 years ago

Oh God, that makes it so much darker than I'd even imagined.
And sadder.
And makes me have so much more sympathy for the prisoner.