The Wrong Facts


No one seems to be pointing out some of the actual facts they used in this movie are completely wrong. For example, they found the second part of the spear at the "Mayan" city of Ollaytatambo. First of all, they were in the Amazon rainforest, and looking at the Andes Mountains, neither of which were inhabited by the Mayans. The Mayan civilization was up in Mexico and Northern South America. The city of Ollaytatambo is actually an Incan city. The Inca inhabited the Andes region, though they did not really travel down out of the mountains and into the rainforest. I would guess the real city is probably at an elevation of around 3000m, well above the Amazon jungle.

There is other stuff too that pretty much ruined the movie for me. If you are going to make a movie...especially one with a main character that says "I don't get facts wrong"...then you should probably concentrate on getting the facts right. Of course I could be wrong and maybe the stuff they said was true. But thats not what I learned.

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he said in the movie the monks escaped to the amazon and built the temple to store their treasure. so what he said could be right.

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But the city itself is a known Incan city. To say he was right would be to say the Incas were really Mayans escaping the Spanish...which makes no sense chronologically.

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Prove what? That the script was stolen or that it isn't a Mayan city?

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I think you're getting unnecessarily catty towards libraryanna. His/Her whole point is that you shouldn't go around making claims you can't/won't prove. You *say* they are facts, but for all we know you are spreading lies about someone who can't defend themselves.

All I'm saying is, if this isn't the place to be *proving* your accusation, then this isn't the place to be *making* it either.

My 2 cents.

MF

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Alright I think you're nitpicking most of the people who saw this probably don't know or care where Ollaytatambo is. I understand where your coming from I get upset when movies mess up info but if you let that mistake bother you it is hard to just watch the movie and enjoy it because all you will be thinking about is the mistakes. If people were to concentrate on all the mistakes in a James Bond movie then they would be very hard to watch.


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Hey there, First, the current correct spelling is "Ollantaitambo", according to maps that I've seen. Second, You say that the Mayans were in Northern South America. The Andes Mountains go from Southern Chile/Argentina northward till almost the Carribean Sea. Also, the Amazon basin goes all the way westward to the feet of the Andes. Ollantaitambo is down the river from Machu Picchu.

Actually, Ollantaitambo's ruins date to before the Incan civilization. It is possible that the Maya people moved south from the Yucatan Penninsula in Middle America into South America.

It is also possible that the makers of the movie took the idea of one of the World's biggest mysteries and plotted a way of fitting it into the movie. Movie makers have done this for years and years.

Sooo, please do research before lecturing.

Thanks for reading,
Steve

P.S. It's a movie!!!

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Most of the "Incan" ruins date to pre-Inca times because there had previously been civilizations living in the Andes for at least 1500 years. These civilizations were...conquered/consolidated/spoken for/however you want to put it...by the Incas. Their civilizations are as well documented as the Inca and Mayan civilizations, just as the Incan inhabitation of Ollytatambo is documented.

I am aware that the Amazon basin meets the Andes Mountains, in fact I said that they were looking at the Andes from the rainforest in my first post, which was a fact I did not dispute. What I did say was that the Incas did not go down into the jungle from the mountains. The closest they came was the slightly tropical lower levels of the mountains where they planted their fruits. Therefore the placement of the city in the middle of the jungle setting is completely inaccurate.

I am not claiming that the movie makers don't have the license to play with facts and such to further a story, but the "I don't get facts wrong" quote that was said in reference to a fact they had wrong is what bothered me. There is no way, even if you are exploring some great mystery, that you can give sole credit to the Mayan people for the city of Ollytatambo and not even mention the Incas who have been documented as using the city as an urban center.

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I would just like to say one thing:
This movie doesn't take itself seriously and therefore is a ton of fun :)
Now, when movies don't take them seriously, anything can and may happen :p

This is ofcourse different with Indiana Jones which takes itself very seriously. Another example is Untraceable and many more. When Movies dont take themselves seriously, a few things like that is acceptable (in my standard).

I am a computer nerd as well as a historian hobbyist. I hate movies that take themselves seriously and fail at so many things. That is why I like this movie :)

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Actually, he says that they have to walk the distance = (the circumference of the earth)/(the length of Ollantaytambo). If they HAD been at Ollantaytambo, I would have issues not with the environment, as the area around Ollantaytambo can resemble jungle/rainforest, but with the fact that in this day there in a town built at the foot of Ollantaytambo - it is nowhere near the abandoned ruin portrayed in the film.
However, they do not pretend to be at Ollantaytambo, he clearly states they are at an undiscovered Mayan temple the priests who abandoned Chicen Itza built.

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I just think you weren't supposed to notice such things or ask these questions, especially while the movie is still on.

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Also there are no known hieroglyphics in the great pyrramid. To say they're building a close to exact replica put me off right there.

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Am I the only one that got bugged when he was translating the bird language and said "Indian and hebrew...". There is no language called "indian", which at least about 1 billion people know...
Obviously there was little research behind the facts he spouted, but generally, it didn't bother me that much since the movie was a light comedy that didn't take itself too seriously.

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Hoban 'Wash' Washburn

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My subtitles said "Hindi", not Indian.

Also, a previous poster is right. They were not in the Incan city, that was only a clue in the book so they would know how much to walk.

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