Just wondering why she always refers to herself as "Louiser"
"Who knows, Mr. Gilbert, what a limit really is." Lincoln Bond, "Toward The Unknown", 1956
Probably for the same reason that some people named Jesus call themselves Heyzoos.
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And just how often does she refer to herself in the 3rd person?
shareWhenever she says her name which is fairly often.
Actually she pronounces it as Louiserrrrrrrrrr. And yes, it's the Cornish accent.
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"I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
It reminds me of Sam Carne (Drake's older brother) in Poldark, which was also set in Cornwall, who always said, "Morwenner" for "Morwenna."
shareit's a lot of british people.....that add an r to the end of names that end in a.....
I've known quite a few, and no they are not all Cornish
susan
Not a British trait, just English. I've never heard Scots / Irish / Welsh use this speech affectation. I once heard Cliff Richard talk about "Madonna-r".
That fine actor, the late Sir Alec Guinness, told of the time when, as a young man in repertory theatre, the cast of his play went in an ice cream parlour. He asked for a "vanilla-r ice" only to be roared at by his boss "There is no "R" in "vanilla".
And just how often does she refer to herself in the 3rd person
you know I've never noticed that...
lol
now that's all I'm going to be thinking about when I watch the series next
susan
And just how often does she refer to herself in the 3rd person?
no you're not...
when you say, oh louise is going to do this for you...then you're referring yourself in the third....
but, by telling someone your name..you're not...
when my older neie was young, we'd always say oh she's doing this, and doing that...and she followed suit...
but by the time she was three, she stopped....lol..and actually asked why we were doing it...or somewhere around that time...
but I once knew a woman from quebec, and she was always be bridgitte, does this, and bridgitte does that...it was so highly irritating...
children usually grow out of it....but, sometimes they never do...
susan
I agree....I often have to say my name...but no it's not referring to myself in the third person...
that would be, come with susan, instead of come with me....susan will show you, instead of I will show you, or would you like me to show you, that kind of idea....
I knew a woman who did it all the time, and it was so irritating...
susan
When ECE Teacher said that, I think that it was meant as a joke ~~ well, that's how I interpreted it, as a tongue-in-cheek observation meant to be humorous.
shareAnd just how often does she refer to herself in the 3rd person?
Speaking about yourself in the 3rd person was certainly handled hilariously in several Seinfeld episodes, starting with "The Jimmy" ~~ and then George starts referring to himself in the 3rd person ~~ "George likes his kung-po spicy" and "George is getting angry!"
shareI knew it was part of her accent--actually very common in England if you listen, no matter where you are! It's not just Cockney. Everyone does it. You're right about the Boston (notMassachusetts! This ends after you go west of Worcester) accent. My brother-in-law calls his daughter Mia "Mier"!
I, too, find it grating. I wouldn't execute people, just force them to go to an "Accent Camp", along with most Southerners, Mid-westerners and people from Chicago.
She deserves her revenge, and we deserve to die.
I find the idea of "accent camps" quite awful. I just love regional accents. Almost all of them. They are endlessly fascinating to me. Granted, there are always some you like less than others, but on the whole accents are just interesting.
But these "camps" existed in Britain and still do. They were just called speech and pronunciation lessons and were very important for anybody who wanted to "better" himself (for lack of a better word).
The right accent is not as important nowadays anymore as it used to be, but it still counts.
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"I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
My god! I was kidding about "accent camps"! Are you saying they actually EXIST?! If so, we could still use some in America, sorry to say.
Like most Americans, I love accents, especially British ones, but those present around me in the States...they're dodgy at best! Luckily, the area in which I live is called "standard" or "generic", but I'm surrounded by the horrid grate of the eastern Mass. accent, the rapid-fire Vermont accent/dialect that sounds like a Scot on amphetamines with hyperactivity.
On television, for some reason, it's dominated by Southerners who either forecast weather ("Florida" is pronounced "Floordah") or report the news (actually saying "Nookyoular"). Then we have the generic hillbilly accents flooding shows with, as some guy just put it on a reality show whose dialogue I could not understand at all, "just a touch of redneck". *Groannn*! THOSE accents, I can do without!
If it gets any worse, I'm moving to Irkutsk.
She deserves her revenge, and we deserve to die.
I know you were kidding. Of course they're not camps.
But yes, having the "right" accent counted for a lot until very recently in Britain. If you wanted to be successful in public life, on TV or have a career in a middle class to upper middle class profession, your accent better had to be RP (received pronunciation)/BBC English (not the same as Oxford English).
Accent elimination/pronunciation lessons were the norm.
The right accent was closely related to class, which always did and still does count in the UK.
It has changed quite a good bit in recent years, you hear a lot more regional accents on TV. Actors and presenters don't try to hide their roots anymore.
Strong regional accent were always more accepted in comedies and soap operas, but not for more "serious" entertainment.
Jessica Rabbit
"I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
Probably the last Accent Camp was discovered in 1945 by a small group of Canadian airmen, stationed in Exter, when stumbling upon it one Saturday evening. The proper authorities were notified. Locals denied knowing anything about it.
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"East Massachusetts" is too inclusive. You find the speech impediment in pockets, usually working class neighborhoods, of towns like Revere, Somerville, Dorchester.
The pattern is: when a word ends with an "A", people add an "ER". So "Linda" becomes "Linder." But if the word actually ended with an "R" or "ER" they change it to "AH," so "Car" becomes "Cah." They sometimes remove "D," so the town "Medford" becomes "Mehfeh."
LOL. "Nucular" drives me up the wall, as does "realator," instead of realtor. The moronic head of the RNC made a huge grammar error in an interview, then followed that by saying something about a "drower," rather than a drawer.
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I live in the US, and like you, I love regional accents. New England accents are my favorites; I don't get why Shannon is so against them. Enjoying regional accents is part of the enjoyment of traveling to other areas and taking in the local scenery, food specialties, and local brew.
People's accents don't annoy me, but their intolerance does.
check out this interesting accent/dialect map of the US (top left)
http://aschmann.net/AmEng/#Au_Indiana
That was a good site! It's a little hard to navigate, due to its size, but very useful. I found out that perpetual "hillbilly/southerner/cowboy" Walter Brennan was from Massachusetts! He might have sounded much like Will Hunting in real life.
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Some Brits speak like that. For instance they pronounce 'saw' as 'sawr' . Louisa when she says Martin's name, she pronounces it as "Morton".
I'm a daughter or British parents, so I got used to the different dialects.
I wonder how she would pronounce the name "Morton"?
"Who knows, Mr. Gilbert, what a limit really is." Lincoln Bond, "Toward The Unknown", 1956
Ironic that Caroline Catz' character on DCI Banks is named Helen Morton.
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Seems a bit extreme. I mean, it's grating, yeah, but...
shareI know a woman from Brooklyn..and she adds an r to the end of names.....
a lot of people do...
susan
I was just reading your reply and thinking it was more intelligent and informed than most that I read on here, when I got to the part about the Cockney accent.
I've got a Cockney accent and so have most of the people that come from or live in London, so you've offended a huge part of the English population.
rrrrrrr
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I have just been watching "The Makeover" where Julia Stiles is working on David Walton, including speech and spoken grammar, to prepare him as a political candidate.
She has him pronouncing all "r"s completely and maybe adding a few.
Going by all her attitudes in the movie, she wants him to sound like an educated Boston inhabitant. Some posters are saying that this is a working-class affectation.
About Cockney accents and class distinction and "Accent Camps" ~~ I'm surprised that no one on this thread has mentioned the plots of "Pygmalion" and "My Fair Lady!"
I still rankle from a speech in which Pres. John F. Kennedy referred to the nations of "Asi-er, Afric-er, and South Americ-er". (Even more grating to me is the Brit dropping of r's at the end of certain syllables. I cringe when announcers on BBC-America talk about "poweh".)
shareYou have a lot to worry about. Did you vote for George W Bush who called himself "a merkin"?
shareI do hope that readers of your comment have actually looked up the word 'merkin'. Perhaps that might be an ever so good description for George and many many others from the good Ol' US of A.
shareNow THAT's FUNNY!! (Yes, I know what a 'merkin' is ~~ and agree with your assessment of George W.!
shareHilarious! Esp., as the person after you wrote, when you think about what it means. He also tended to call terrorists "tourists", which is actually dangerous as well as confusing! :D LBJ had basically the same accent.
I followed all the rules...and you followed none of them. And they all loved you more.
"LBJ had basically the same accent."
 Indeed he did!
I once had to act as a "translator" between my friend from Bawston who was marrying a girl from Texas. His relatives and friends couldn't understand her and vise versa!
I followed all the rules...and you followed none of them. And they all loved you more.
(Even more grating to me is the Brit dropping of r's at the end of certain syllables. I cringe when announcers on BBC-America talk about "poweh".)
just brits....
I was in bar harbor maine, and they kept on saying bah habah.....and I noticed it in that part of the country a lot....that they dropped the r's....
susan
The "intrusive r" was sometimes noticeable in JFK's speech as well as certain Beatles' songs. I first noticed it from these two sources as a child and have always found it mildly amusing. I appreciate regional accents and such and am sorry for the homogenization of speech which seems to be a result of excessive media consumption. As Don Williams said in a song, "But I was smarter than most and I could choose/Learned to talk like the man on the six o'clock news." For really annoying speech, listen to "uptalking" and "vocal fry," so prevalent here in the States.
shareFor really annoying speech, listen to "uptalking" and "vocal fry," so prevalent here in the States. - grumpyoldguy1
I was only a small lad during the Cuban Missile Crisis but I remember the president talking about Cuba and the kids at school asking why he called it "Cuber." No one was laughing at his accent at the time since we expected a nuclear war any minute.
shareSingers ~~ especially choral singers of classical works ~~ are also taught to drop their "r"s, because it is an ugly syllable when trying to hold a note on "rrrrrrrrrrrr!" Rock singers do it all of the time, however ~~ the Beatles and many others.
I agree with you about "uptalking" ~~ it drives me crazy. But what is "vocal fry?"
I dunno, I've never noticed her calling herself that, probably it just doesn't stand out to me, but most everyone else on the show seems to refer to her as "Louiser".... I just put that down to local dialect, never occurred to me to ask why......
I can't find the post....
but, those that talk about accent camps....I think they've always existed...they're just never called that..
if you've ever watched are you being served, there's a brief reference about miss brahms, going to elecution lessons...
and then when they brought the series back for a year, when they were in the manor house, and that...it's referred to again....elecution lessons, when a group of tourists come..(can't remember which country they're from)...and she starts talking about the quality of mercy from Shakespeare's merchant of venice.
susan
About "Accent Camps" and the reference to Cockney accents and class distinction ~~ I'm surprised that no one on this thread has mentioned the whole plot of "Pygmalion" and "My Fair Lady!"