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much like the tv special within 'scrooged' - only worse


doesn't anyone remember this, more or less, from the hilarious "scrooged"?

in that movie, bill murray's soulless tv executive is putting on a hideous bastardization of the christmas carol story -- which stars buddy hackett, mary lou retton as tiny tim, and the rockettes as villagers. and of course it's meant to show bill murray's fall, his utter corruption.

and now *this* monstrosity is on the air -- no irony intended? it's just too perfect -- it defies belief. [and yet, i'm embarrassed to say, i watched most of it, but in my defense it was such a train wreck that i couldn't look away.]

a couple of questions though:
was it really necessary to distort dickens' simple and touching story of redemption into this hackneyed, overblown, poorly acted/ lit/ directed/ choreographed piece of tripe -- and then add those awful songs to boot?

and dear god, why was it necessary to change the ghosts?

maybe the suits said something like this:

"that dickens: what a hack. i read his original script, and it's, well, *stodgy* and unhip would be the words i'd use. so let's make it more fun. we'll add songs, and dancing. and let's make those stodgy old ghosts a lot more politically correct, you know, *diverse* -- i know -- we'll make two of them female, and the third will be male -- but black. and, best of all, the ghost of the future will be completely visible, and not hooded or scary at all. it'll be awesome!"

sorry about the snark -- i am not usually so unforgiving or unkind but this was just terrible.

and what about the cast? is everyone merely working for a paycheck these days? i mean, it's not that kelsey grammer is so high-brow, nor is the blonde from 30 rock, but geraldine chaplin? it's just so sad.

it's very likely that the version within "scrooged" would have been far more entertaining.


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This film did remind me of the tv special bill murray was putting on in scrooged, im glad, I wasnt the only one who put the two together.

The only thing that really helped this god awful film was kelsey gammer .But that being said even he cheesed it up by the end lol.

There is a reason to watch this film though!
watch it at least till the ghost of christmas present uncovers the children who represent ignorance and greed (think its greed). Doesnt matter if ive got it wrong anyway I wasnt paying much attention to their names, just their faces...watch it and you will soon see what i mean.

There should have only been one musical version of christmas carol and thats a muppet christmas carol!

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I have not watched the entire thing. I am a huge fan of Christmas Carol, the book and its various presentations. I have this dvd but can't make myself watch more than a little bit of it. Maybe I should tough it out.
I LOVE Jennifer Love Hewitt, so maybe I should watch it for at least her scenes.
Kelsey Grammer does cheese it up. He even does that walking and shaking everything, even his hands, that you see in high school productions when young teens try to play old people. The quivering voice thing. Seriously I thought they must have been kidding but it kept going on and on. Scrooge is not written as having Cerebral palsy.
I was also reminded of the Scrooged television production. But Bill Murray's character, Mr. Cross, did not even have the class to get The Rockettes. It was The Solid Gold Dancers which made it all the funnier to me. They would just be in the back ground slinking and strutting by in unison for no reason. Well, there WAS a reason but it had nothing to do with the "plot" of the show.
Great movie. Maybe I should watch Scrooged again rather than try to suffer through this version.

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