Cinematic pretense of the highest order doesn't even begin to define this mysogonistic waste of celluloid. It's been a long time since I HATED a movie but this was the most pointless excuse for movie making I've ever seen. Two hours of my life I'll never get back. What's really galling is the craft of production was impressive. I guess this is the European version of "Independence Day" Big buck production wasted on an utterly worthless story and script.
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Perfume, rated as 7.5 (not all movies get as high)
Independence day, rated as 6.5
I saw this film made no money in the USA. I suppose European and USA people are more different than I actually thought. Or WE read the book first (we read, a lot, and you? Did you read the book?) and people wanted to see the film. This film is a very well done book, the best, I think. But you have to read the book first to appreciate that.
I know, the film-language and written-language are not the same. But this is a great film from an excellent book.
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It took me twice to really appreciate it honestly. The first time I saw it I would've given it a 6/10 (I was sick and hopped up on nyquil at the time as well) I thought I'd give it another shot as a good looking girl was intrigued with the story wanted to watch it with me. So I ablidged and while I wasn't blown away the second I could certainly see the art presence and the stunning visuals. And even though overall I think that there isn't one stand out preformance from the actors I still give it an 8/10 for delivery and visuals. And oh man that last scene when he puts on the perfume awesome.
Pretty stunning if you let it be. Oh and I'm from the states and I did read the book first. Contrary to popular belief some Americans do read much like some Europeans don't.
"It's too bad she won't live... but then again who does?" Blade Runner
For story as spectacular and moving as Perfume is, i was quite astounded at how well the movie adaptation was executed. Americans don't get most movies, do they?
Some people call it disturbing,some call it sick,some call it misogynistic....
I really don't understand the American taste...if you cringe at this gem...I recommend "Funny Games" and "Benny's Video" by Michael Haneke...and to make you cringe more-watch "Jesus Camp" an all American documentary...these'll send chills down your spine..
And for the record...I know of a brilliant American who used to say this novel by Suskind was closer to his soul than anything else...you know who it was?..Kurt Cobain...
Crime and punishment is very big here, love of beauty not so much. Americans would probably tend to have big problems with the ending, like it's justifying perversity or something. But according to the ratings breakdown, it got a 7.5 both within and without the US, so the American highbrow types who were motivated to see it really enjoyed it. It's one of my all-time favorites.
Leave the gun, take the cannoli...
Yeah the book is fantastic, and I thought this was a pretty good attempt at the book.
Obviously, the book did a much better job just because it is told with such an emphasis on smell that really can't be done on film, but it was good.
I don't think it's a matter of difference between European and American. It simply wasn't marketed here that I'm aware of. I actually picked it up used on the cheap thinking "this CAN'T be a good version... surely a hack of an attempt... I would have heard SOMETHING had they actually made a good version of this"... but I was wrong. I think the combination of nudity and disturbing content is the prime reason... plus it's longer than 2 hours, so the theaters don't want it unless it's a big blockbuster from big stars with a big director.
I don't know, really. I did enjoy it and having not read the book in over 15 years I was pretty happy at remembering so much of the story, or having so much of it come back to me. I do think Europeans are less offended by things American audiences tend to find disturbing, but Americans overlook these offensive elements when wrapped in truly talentless drivel like comedies by Smith, Apatow, Sandler, or Ferrell. No offense to those PEOPLE, but their work is shoddy and it's intentional because it sells.
Amateurs built The Ark, professionals built The Titanic.
When you say ' WE read more books ' what do you mean ? USA or European ? I think I already know the answer but where are you ?
That which does not Kill me makes me Stranger . . .
Its quite a good film but I thought the last five minutes were a bit predictable.
Overall well worth a look.
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Them words that you be speakin' is making hard my understandin'.... I be sayin' that 'cause after I had been read that I had a most worst headache since Tuesday before the last Tuesday before that, and that was when there were a movie with subtitles on the TV (why not everyone just speak American like us all do?) but since I was not able to watch it AND read it thank god American Idol was on!!!
Then I went to drive in my pickup truck to McDonalds and The WalMart (I am just so happy we finally got one! Its like living in New York City or something'!) and when there I buyed some Apple Pie and Budweiser and a new pair of Blue Jeans (I ain't had a new pair in more'n a year! I was just as pleased as punch!).
I made it home to my trailer, smoked a Marlboro, and sat down and watch some Fox News. That was my day, what did you do?
something terribly clever.
I completely agree. I have no idea why this is rated so high.
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I agreed the rate, actually, I give it 9 points.
I have no idea why this is rated so high.
Rated so high???? It's rated far to low. This is a 9+ easy. I'm shocked this isn't a top 250. I agree that it is not for everyone, but I can't believe there is not a loyal following of voters that has been able to keep it at least in the 200s. Not even an Oscar nomination? The golden statuette continues to lose credibility. I'm not one to lambaste big Hollywood. I love the Transformers and Star Wars types as much as the next person, maybe more, but this is a unique film that you just don't get to see very often. Just Good Good Good!
You're kidding right? What a mess of a film it had absolutely no storyline, it was all over the place, it didn't know what it wanted to say. The book looks better since it explains all the huge gaps in the film. The story itself is repugnant and misogynistic. Every character was unlikeable. I'm guessing it has a high rating because of all the men that are like omg boobies.
shareWTH are you on? None of the corpse had pretty boobs
only people who can't appreciate art and beauty hate this movie
i can;t think of a thing to dislike about this movie
this movie get a 10 from me
i not here to criticize anybody but the one who hate is just not ready to accept genuine creativity as a very beautiful thing
wonder why American hate it
I totally agree, KHangd2003.
I adore this movie, wholeheartedly. I think it's different, and awesome in what it dares to achieve. Can you imagine the consent of all the extras in the climactic orgy scene, for example? I've never seen so many people willing to bare all for the camera!
I was also fascinated by the two processes of capturing scent, and that perfumer Grenouille learns his craft from. Didn't know even perfumery had it's own technical side.
I rate this film 9/10 - it loses one point because of the disgusting early scenes of maggots, etc.
Well, you can't have a film about the sense of smell without maggots, now can you!
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Yep. 10/10 for me. I'm a rare American, I guess.
shareim american and i gave it a 10. i didnt read the book first but i loved the movie so much i bought it and am reading it now. i wonder how ANYONE could hate it.
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No my friend. The real question is how anbody could love it?
Why do people think this is such a sensational movie? An orphan inept of having feelings who murders women while looking for the perfect scent.
That is just a horrible story.
So according to you, only stories with a beautiful ending where the pure at heart will win, is a good movie? Maybe you should see Shrek or something like that instead? Seems like your kind a movie and let the adults see movies there are more complicated than reading an ABC.
Although dark, I found this movie thrilling, interesting, and thoughtful. I loved the cinematography and the direction of this movie.
If that's all you see, I don't think you get it. It's not fair putting it like this either; a one-sentence summary of a movie will always make it look bad.
ET: boy finds alien and in the end alien flies off again.
Lawrence of Arabia: man on camel walks around in the desert.. al lot.
Shawshank Redemption: 2 guys are in a jail and talk a lot.
Doesn't do it justice.
---Wasting 2 hours of our lives on this film is pointless but spending days of writing stupid gibberish is fulfilling?---
LOL
"I'm not going there to die, I'm going to find out if I'm really alive." ~Spike Spiegel
true can't think of anything that i hate about this movie too watched like a dozen times and now i want to watch it again lol :p
You know if i said poop you would laugh
only people who can't appreciate art and beauty hate this movie
"A lot of people say to me...... get out of my garden" - Stewart Leeshare
I completely agree aswell. I lack words on describing how dumb this movie was, and just like the OP, it was a long time ago i hated a movie, except for Eragon.
I've been fighting my ass off on the Ben Winshaw boards (got there by mistake) against high-horsed people who apparently love this piece of nonsense. This movie had zero entertainment value, it had a laughable story, it was realistic when they it fitted them, and they chose all the wrong parts.
2 hours of life gone, and I can spew on this movie forever.
For every animal you don't eat I'm going to eat three.
You're wrong! It's good good good!
And what? It wasn't believable enough?
Try using your imagination! Oh wait. I guess you haven't got one.
No need to retaliate, because I don't care.
Do not worry.
Maybe he think that Harry Potter, Inception, Star Wars, Star Trek (2009) and so on (that films) are more believable. And I love those films.
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LOL! i agree, loving to hate it is another way of saying "it touched me".
the book written by süßkind is one of the best and touching stories i've
ever read. to make a movie out of this must have been very hard so i thought
the movie was accurately half-done, some important scenes i missed like the one with the
priest, and they changed the death of madame gaillard which made me very angry,
as they changed the age of the girls which are murdered (in the book Laura is
12 years old, the others are about the same age).
Grenuilles mind-travel in the cave i missed, too, but i think that's because
i love the book too much.
But the picture of the houses on the bridge looked exactly as i imagined it
in my head. And i was glad that they didn't change anything at the end of the story
(Except for the fact that in the end EVERYBODY has sex with EVERYBODY, not
only the women with the men and the women with the women... but shhh...
*irony*"fags" are not welcome in hollywood, we all get it, America...
but you should do something about your homophobia... that cannot be healthy
for your mind)
but still it's sort of a shame what they've done out of the book,
which is, as always, way better than the movie!
But it was eyecandy. Can't say i hate it.
"One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..." - Jefferson Airplane
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I'm guessing they generally left "penetration shots" out as a principle. Nothing to do with homophobia. I just saw a lot of naked people making out.
shareWhat does it have to do with penetration? They can just have men making out with men, can't they? Guess what, men penetrate women too, but they have scenes together.
sharetthreadgill you dude, have some serious issues, you might wanna go see a shrink before watching another movie because it seems your words are a waste of internet
shareI thought that the film had a lot of nice things going for it. However:
1) The film was too long and I didn't like the pacing.
2) I never got into the main character. At first (when he kills the first girl), I see him as Lenny from Mice and Men (I will hold em and squeeze them and I will call him
George.) Then, later he is a blindly obsessed but intelligent serial-killer. Then, later still, he becomes a shrewd and cunning killer who cleverly executes his own escape. Finally, he is the pensive and soulful killer who is willing to give his life for redemption. Too many personalities for me.
Overall, I did like the movie though.
I was just wondering what about the storyline you thought was worthless, I can understand that you don't like the movie....I loved it, on the other hand, but I can see how it wouldn't be for everyone. Just wondering what made you interested in it, enough to watch it in the first place, if you thought the story was worthless? I've seen movies before where I thought the story was good, but I didn't like the movie because of other things in it.
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