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I could have gotten out.


This would be a solid plan of attack, assuming that the guy in charge would not modify the environment to prevent it (which he didn't do once in the movie).

Step 1: A room to room sweep to destroy all the cameras an microphones. I realise he said not to bother, but there is plenty of time and it would be a good group task to build a bond among the people. Who knows what would happen once this is achieved. This isn't an neccesary step but should be conisdered as it would ruin the point for Big Brother.

Step 2: Collect the lighter, all the curtains and the booze. Start a huge fire in one corner of the house. This would possibly expose an escape route and at least would give you an idea of the building's structure.

Step 3: If that doesn't work I'd attempt to figure out the air exchange system. There has to be some way that the air is moving in and out of the building. The smoke from the fire would give you a good idea. Other options in this area include finding the electrical wiring or water pipes as well as exploring the insides of the food drop off point. These are all possible weaknesses in the building and a good place to start the long digging job.

Step 4: Digging options include the corrosive power of the exposed wiring from one of the lights, improvised axes and maybe even urine. Keep in mind that you will be digging away at an already existing hole in the structure left by the stuff from step 3 (the wiring, pipes, air ducts).

There you have it. With a little patience and team work you could burn, rip and smash your way out.

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Wow, what is like to be as brilliant as you. If all films were as smart as you there would be nothing to ever complain about...

One question, with the walls seeming to be over 30 feet high in the main room, can you also grace us with your knowledege of how they could "sweep" those too...

If only there were fimmakers with your intelegence all films would be perfect...

And if all this time was spent on these things you are so adament about, why do I picture you complaining that this all slowed down the film. And this film would then be called "How Halkings Escaped The house" and would have nothing to do with what it was really about which is just a statement on how horrible us humans really, are and a very satirical study on reality shows with people locked in houses.

Bet you never thought of that oh brilliant sage of movie interpretation.....

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wexler274, i think you missed the point of halkings' comment

the idea of a "message board" on a site like this is to discuss movies. if you have never watched a movie and then questioned what you saw then i think you are missing out on a lot.

back to the discussion at hand, wexler274 actually has a point that some of the cameras were inaccessible. but, if they had just destroyed all the cameras in the hallways they could probably have avoided the others.

as for starting a big fire in the place, i question how effective that would be. it seemed to be mostly stone floors and plaster walls, so there wouldn't be a lot to burn. and they might have died from smoke inhalation.

regardless, i agree that they didn't give escaping nearly enough of a go. for one thing, when they were using the table as a battering ram it would have been a lot more effective if they had turned it on its side. it's a shame they didn't have a physicist in the house.

oh, and bricks aren't indestructible.

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That's exactly what I was doing myself, "dicussing" with halkings.

Note - The Rapper, smashes a camera in the hallway. And again, what good would it have done to smash cameras anyway. It's not like the guys will then say, "oh, okay, i'll let you out now...."

Don't you think that maybe it was more than just a row of bricks on the windows......????

Question, if eveyone seems to be complaining that the first half of the movie is too slow already then how much time did you want the filmmakers to spend on them escaping.....??? I think the montage gives us enough of the idea to realise, as they did, that there is just no way out of there and it's time to figure out how to make it through this alive. Get to what the film is really about, what humans will do when faced with survival and mocking reality shows which if anyone noticed, FOX has just completely ripped off this film with a new reality show.

Just my "dicussion".

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Note - The Rapper, smashes a camera in the hallway. And again, what good would it have done to smash cameras anyway. It's not like the guys will then say, "oh, okay, i'll let you out now...."


It's impossible to say just what he would do, but I bet he would do something. Afterall, without his video feed he would be unable to continue the game. We are talking about a hopeless situation in which it is very clear that 8 people are going to die. Wouldn't you give just about anything a try to avoid being killed/killing.

Don't you think that maybe it was more than just a row of bricks on the windows......????


One more to break. Like I said, the only other option is death.

Get to what the film is really about, what humans will do when faced with survival and mocking reality shows...


This film has a very heavy "What would you do?" type of plot. These people are in an interesting theoretical situation and it's normal to sympathise with them and try to figure it out. It's fun to put yourself in there shoes.

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the idea of a "message board" on a site like this is to discuss movies. if you have never watched a movie and then questioned what you saw then i think you are missing out on a lot.


Thanks for this.

back to the discussion at hand, wexler274 actually has a point that some of the cameras were inaccessible. but, if they had just destroyed all the cameras in the hallways they could probably have avoided the others.


Agreeable. The cameras are the most obvious weak point for Big Brother. I can't say what would happen if everybody stayed off camera, but I bet something would.

as for starting a big fire in the place, i question how effective that would be. it seemed to be mostly stone floors and plaster walls, so there wouldn't be a lot to burn. and they might have died from smoke inhalation.


You're right, the fire for me was more of a way to really get a sense of what they are dealing with construction wise. Smoke inhalation would definitely be a problem, which leads us to a totally unanswered aspect of the house, it's air exchange system. I think the risk created by the fire would be outweighed by it's potential benefits.

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Wow, what is like to be as brilliant as you.


Extremely satisfying.

One question, with the walls seeming to be over 30 feet high in the main room, can you also grace us with your knowledege of how they could "sweep" those too...


With all those people and all types of tables and chairs for climbing, I think it would be quite manageable.

If only there were fimmakers with your intelegence all films would be perfect...


Agreeable.

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Yes of course you could dearie, it's a movie set made of papier maché, oui?

There's only one way out. Being the last one alive. It's called suspension of disbelief. Like when you say "For the sake of Argument".

I found the situation interesting and couldn't wait to see how soon it would take these nice people slowly abandon their humanity and begin their descent into pure anarchy. I just think it was very well done and quite believable considering the random selection of the participants.

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I'm going to paste what I wrote above as it applies here

This film has a very heavy "What would you do?" type of plot. These people are in an interesting theoretical situation and it's normal to sympathise with them and try to figure it out. It's fun to put yourself in there shoes.


You like fun don't you?

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I like the way you think, however, I believe that if the group started to cooperate too much (i.e. disabling cameras or making any real progress at an escape attempt) that the "host" would hinder their efforts by witholding food and water or shutting off the lights. That would eventually drive everyone more insane and once again achieve the goal of the "host".

btw, I hope they make a sequel. Not the best movie I've ever seen but I liked the premise. A sequel or two could show us what happens to all the people holding bags of money and also give us more insight into the devious mind behind it all.

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You're right. Perhaps Big Brother's intervention could be prevented through some play acting on the participants part. First they would need to figure out some way to communicate outside of Big Brother's eyes and ears. Perhaps the fire I suggested would create a suitable dead spot without it being obvious that this is the intention.

Actually with that in mind, here's a totally different plan of attack. Fake 8 deaths. Get a plan together in which everybody fakes their death. If the quality of BB's video feed is the grainy stuff we saw in the film, this might not be all that hard. The hard part would be planning it, hence the camera and mic free spot created by the fire. It might seem difficult, almost impossible to fake the 8 deaths but with your life on the line don't you think you could muster the ability?

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i personally would not have set too big a fire. you might burn up more oxygen than is coming into the house. plus the smoke would cause breathing problems. you'd have to find a very clean burning fuel (alcohol but it won't make the fire hot enough).

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I know, I've said this on another thread, but I dont think they tried hard enough to get out. i thought they should try to chisel their way out of the brick. The cop could have shot the wall, and they could have taken chair legs or stuff from the cabinetry or whatever, and slowly chipped away at the mortar, I mean with enough people it wouldnt have taken long to at least get a small hole or something...i realize that if they DID that tho, there wouldnt have been this movie, but think if they re-did the movie with an alternative story, and they DID find a way out of the house, it could focus on what they come across...

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Interesting. I thought up of another way. Pretending to get killed. With loud music on, whisper plans of staging eight murders. The cameras weren't good enough to see the difference if somebody would drop down and get covered by one of the black curtains. Then, when the door opens, you all rush to freedom. At least, that's assuming there is no next room. :P

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"Digging options include the corrosive power of the exposed wiring from one of the lights, improvised axes and maybe even urine."

Sure, they can simply piss there way out of there.


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I'm assuming that the people writing here have just seen the movie, right? If not, ------SPOILER ALERT-------!!!!!!!

As we saw at the end, these weren't the only set of people involved in this game. We are left to assume that the 1/2 dozen or so other people holding briefcases all came from a similar situation. That is, they were probably stuck in a big mansion with 8 other people as well. If you consider the enormity of this situation, you'd soon realize that attempting to escape is pretty pointless.

Consider these points:

1. If they are in a compound of multiple mansions, then the monumental task of working through a thick wall would have to be repeated over and over again until you get to the actual outer wall.

2. If the mastermind behind this had the means to build multiple mansions, then he would certainly also have the means to make the outer wall incredibly thick.

3. I think there might not have been an air circulation system. Remember, the point is for these people to all die in there, not sustain life. They continued to complain about it getting hotter and hotter. The mastermind could have just started them out with some oxygen, then sealed it tight.

4. The other people with briefcases all seemed to be clutching them tight. The fact that they had gotten there first and had time to peek inside, alludes to the fact that there probably really was money inside. This just further illustrates just how plentiful were the resources of the mastermind.


Regardless, if they were going to die anyway, I feel that every spare moment should have been spent digging a hole through somewhere. They could have started destroying cameras and microphones in a single room. Then they could have "acted" like they were giving up. This way they would have their secret area to work on an escape, while still spending time in the rest of the house to make it look like they're not even trying.

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and if the "house" is buried underground? What then?
Bam said the lady.

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Exactly. I think someone would be suspicious of 5 mansions in a field built facing each other where they connect at a central hub structure, with bricks piled up outside the windows.

This thing was most likely an underground compound built out of steel and surrounded with concrete.

If you were a character in the movie, you might follow the OP's thinking and attempted to escape, but as a poster having seen the movie, and the ending, you should understand that escape was probably not very likely due to the enormity of this overall structure containing 5 mansions.

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The whole complex could have one time been one large manor. It's proven that the watchers have a large sum of money. With enough money, they could have renovated the manor and created the illusion of five separate buildings. Or it could be one large warehouse with the inside built to look like a manor.

Also, it's more then likely that the people who are doing the kidnapping are working for who ever is the mastermind behind it all. Not just hired kidnappers. Something like the setup you see in Hostel and Hostel 2.

Another point is that this kind of reminds me of the movie, The Killing Room, where four people are tricked into becoming subjects for a modern version of Project MKULTRA being done by government agents. The plot and the ending are sort of similar to a point but does diverge enough to the point that you must compare it carefully.

Taking either one of these views into account, there was no way to escape unless they let you out. And even if you managed to escape the building, there would most likely be someone waiting outside.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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Exactly. Especially since they have cameras and microphones all over the place.

Even if it was just a one-layer brick wall that they could break through, the guy is watching. He knows the layout of the mansion. If he sees you making any progress, he can just show up outside with a gun and shoot you as you climb out. If they take the time to brick up the windows, I'm pretty sure they don't want you to escape.

You're not going to outsmart them when you break out, you probably aren't even going to be able to break out because you're in a place they set up. In a situation like this, there is only one way to get out, and it's the way the guy told them whether they like it or not.

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Step 2: Collect the lighter, all the curtains and the booze. Start a huge fire in one corner of the house. This would possibly expose an escape route and at least would give you an idea of the building's structure.

Congratulations, you have just killed everyone with carbon monoxide.

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for enough good men to do nothing.

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