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I swear I'm not a troll, but...

posted 10 years ago by TheSweet2112
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There were quite a few things about this movie that just flabbergasted me.
Firstly, the fact that African-American people have been complaining for decades about how it's the 'white man' who keeps them down, and complain that their failures are somehow all our fault as opposed to taking responsibility for their own incompetence.
This movie is a prime example of why it is nobody's fault but their own.... The fact that an entire town (for whatever stupid god damn reason), opposed Coach Carter when his intentions were to solely improve the students academically shows that ignorant mindset.

"This is ALL these boys have to live for!" And whose fault is it that they are incapable of acquiring any other hobbies or skills?
"If they can't read, at least they can play basketball! How dare you take that away from them!" Yes, God forbid your mongoloid child be pushed to succeed at the most basic *beep* level humanly possible.
It isn't like they were unlucky and deprived of acquiring an education- they all attended school, it's nobody's fault but their own and their parent's that they didn't motivate themselves to learn.
And why exactly does it seem to be that less than 1% of the entire black population are capable of properly pronouncing words? It isn't like their first language is different... More often than not, their native tongue is English. So why the hell are blacks so inclined to completely butcher the only language they speak?

And another thing that just blows me away with all of these high school sports movies is the substantial emphasis placed on the High School's influence on the ENTIRE town.
I understand that countries differ in regards to traditions, but seriously... The fact that every person in a town's life revolves entirely around something as trivial and brain dead as a HIGH SCHOOL sport's team's season just goes to show that the average adult American really is less intellectually competent than the average human.... Is there really nothing more exciting in your lives than bullying your child to succeed at something that A) doesn't require ANY amount of intelligence, and B) Can in no way, even on the VERY slim chance that he become successful, support him throughout his life?

Good riddance.
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[–] debiler 10 years ago

Um, no. Coach Carter even said it himself: the kids are kind of caught in a system that is (passively) designed for them to fail. The teachers are disillusioned, they don't believe in themselves or the kids, because the past has proved that a big part of them will either drop out, go to jail or straight to the cemetary. So the teachers don't put any effort or heart into their job. How are you going to challenge them academically if you don't believe they can succeed? Sure, Basketball is a way of coping with reality. So are drugs. The only difference is that for a very, very select few Basketball can be a way out of their miserable circumstances. CC wants to change that because he is both an idealist and a realist.

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[–] burgundychampagne 9 years ago

Sorry but,I feel like you are trolling just a bit. The reason being,this movie is not about race. And no matter how many valid or invalid points you make about it (race), every African American does not blame 'the white man' for ALL problems and failures though in some instances, he is to blame. I dont know who you've been listening to but, please do not believe that ALL African Americans shift blame. There are African Americans such as Coach Carter and many others that are ready and willing to solve issues without even mentioning 'the white man'.

[–] morganseer 9 years ago

There is a phenomenon called "learned helplessness" that applies to human beings as well as other animals. If an individual or a group of individuals have been held down by a system too long, where escape is not allowed, they develop a passive stance that they maintain throughout life even after circumstances change. There is a series of experiments on dogs by a psychologist named Martin Seligman, who demonstrated that when dogs were exposed to a mild electric shock, but were allowed to escape, they continued to be healthy, functioning dogs. But if they were administered the same stimulation and denied the possibility of escape, they eventually lied down and stopped responding regardless of their change of environment.

This same phenomenon seems to apply to people who have been locked in an unresponsive system. They may be angry and bitter, but they stop seeing themselves as powerful agents of change, and see themselves instead as perpetual victims of the system.

And don't blame the teachers either. They are caught up in the same vicious cycle, often coming into the system full of idealism, and little by little getting worn down by the resistance and learned helplessness they face. It truly takes a strong, smart, determined teacher to even begin to chip at some of that resistance.