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Honestly I enjoyed it quite a lot!

Why people here are so hostile to it, I really don't understand. None of the negative comments I've read here are things I agree with.

Maybe because it doesn't resort to an action sequence every ten minutes? Maybe because it's not loaded with FX? I don't know. I wonder if the influence of video games have ruined the genre? I don't know.

I thought it was well written and had great visuals. The unusual timeline was quite interesting, and not at all confusing if you bother to pay attention. Even the elements that were familiar, like the greiving father looking for his daughter's killer, are done well enough that they don't become the usual cliches.

Great characters and cool actors playing them. Robert Forster, Michael Chiklis, Mako, Cameron Richardson (that was Marilyn Manson as the bartender? wow, never would have guessed.)

And most of all the amazing Carla Gugino!

Even Lucy Liu, who I'm not a big fan of, I liked her here, a lot.

I just realized that writer/director Sebastian Gutierrez also made "Mermaid Chronicles Part 1: She Creature", another little genre film I liked a whole lot, but which has gotten trashed by fanboys.

I just want to say Mr. Gutierrez, if you read this, there's at least one person who appreciates what your work!

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Well I think it's admirable that you're the only person who likes this movie.

Or Gutierrez' work in general, for that matter.

I haven't seen this movie yet, but I will. And I'll probably like it too. Because I like Lucy Liu.


Anyway... No. Video games did not ruin the vampire movie genre. Crappy vampire movies did.


And Lucy, if you're reading this, I like you... a lot.

If you ever find yourself in Amsterdam, find me too.

I'm not quite vintage yet but I do smell funny sometimes...

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Well thanks. But I don't think I'm the only one who likes it. Obviously I'm in the minority if one goes by IMDB. But no one should ever go solely by what they see on IMDB with regard to any movie.

Also, I'm saying the INFLUENCE of video games have definitely spoiled movies in general. Not just vampire movies.


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So now video games spoiled ALL movies? Or just movies in general? I'm sorry, I mean THE INFLUENCE.

Don't mind me, I just thought that what you said was funny, and I had to get that Lucy Liu stuff off my chest. For it was sticky.


"Also... I can kill you with my brain"

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Hey! A fellow Browncoat!

It's cool man. I'm just grouching. I'm talking about things like the overuse of CGI, and the need for genre movies to have an action sequence every ten minutes or the fanboys start pissing on it for being boring. Their hate for anything (like Firefly) where you have to think. Stuff like that. Notice all the damn movies that come out these days based on comics or graphic novels or games. Sure there are some great ones like Sin City. But a lot of them fail, and yet Hollywood keeps spending gazillions of dollars churning them out because they pay too much attention to the internet fanboy culture. Seriously, I've read articles about it. Snakes On A Plane syndrome.

Then again maybe it's just me.


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Articles, schmarticles. Hollywood MAKES gazillions of dollars churning out crap.

Most people don't really care about movies. They just want to be entertained. And apparently, most people like their entertainment dumb and flashy. They want to see crap, so it gets made. It's a supply and demand thing.

Hollywood's a big Technicolor-entertainment factory, and it provides the masses.

If anything ruined movies, it's money. And then you get Snakes on a Plane.

Personally, I feel quite satisfied not having seen it. By the way, did you notice who co-wrote the script..? :o)

The good news is, there will always be people there who care about quality. They are the ones managing to sneek in those little masterpieces every now and then.

Like music, cinema is a commercialized form of art, and you just have to dig a little deeper to find something of true value.

*BURP*

...sorry.


"Also... I can kill you with my brain"

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To me, the film is okay for what it is: A drama with vampire and revenge genre elements. It's not grandiouse like most vampire films are, but there's something about it that make it stand apart than most vampire films (I don't know what that "something" is, but it is there. Plus, the film is produced by Robert Tapert, one of the main people behind "Evil Dead," and I'm sure he knew what that something was when he decided to produce it).

One of the things that is appealing to me about this film, at least from my point of view, is that it sort of has a graphic novel feel to it. It's dark and gritty that harkens mostly to the Film Noir genre. I can't remember who it was that said this, but this film is, as the person said, a "vampire noir" film. This film pretty much is true to that term, because it shows that there's nothing romantic about vampires. It's not campy as most vampire films. It's like the very distant cousin of typical vampire movies in style and feel, being the sister to several non-typical, non-campy vampire movies I've seen (to me, this is just as interesting as "Habit" and "Nadja", two seperate indepedent films that present a different visual to most contemporary vampire films).

Of course, many people have said that the film's premise "rips off" various sources (like "The Crow"), but if there is one thing I know is this: there have been PLENTY of vampire films where characters die and come back. Any rendering of "Dracula" is a good example. But what film, TV show, comic book or piece of lieterature in the post-modern era hasn't? The film's overall story and plot structure is rather simple and enjoyable in my opinion. It may not be action packed as "Underworld". It may not be campy as "Near Dark" or "The Lost Boys". It may not be off-the-wall bizare as "Habit" or "Nadja". But it holds its own for what it is.

Of course, this is just my opinion on it. I won't say this is the "greatest" vampire film of all time (seeing that anyone who knows vampire movies, the greatest will always be "Dracula" with Bela Lagosi), but it's not the worst one I've seen (and I've seen my fair share of them). I'll just say that, in my opinion, it's only an "interestingly good" vampire film.

But this one's eating my popcorn!

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Thanks codebreaker2001, very well put.

"vampire noir" - I'm gonna steal that phrase!



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You're welcome. "Vampire Noir" is just one of the many variations of "Film Noir" that I know about. Amongst others that I've heard, there's "Tech Noir" (created by James Cameron, used as the name of the club that Sarah Conner ends up in during "The Terminator". In the director's commentary for the film, he said he made the term so that film reviewers would know how to label the film other than sci-fi and action), "Teen Noir" (which was used in a review of the movie "Brick") and "Neo Noir" (which are what films that are heavily modeled after the "film noir" style, but are made after the 1950s, are labeled as. Films like "Sin City" and "Chinatown" are classified as "Neo Noir").

But this one's eating my popcorn!

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True enough I suppose. Though I found the movie rather "meh", the worst vampire movie (hell, the worst movie) ever is now and will likely always be Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter.

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There was a movie called Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter?

Well, I liked Rise..
It wasn't the best, it wasn't the worst... but overall it was different, stylish, ambiguous, like a chiarascuro painting... more memorable.

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Gracias, muchas gracias.

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