Actually said by the 5'4 fat boy midget Turtle in season 1 as they were exiting the Staples Center following the Klitschko-Sanders fight. Turtle said he would let Vitali K beat the f out of him for 3 million dollars. Vitali K would tear Turtle's head off and s*** down his neck leaving him fighting for life and unable to enjoy any of that money.
shareAlthough that is true, the Klitscho brothers were only ever able to rise to the top when any serious contenders were gone. They are B grade boxers. They were able to shine during a slump in talent in the division.
shareComplete BS. But keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Vitali's a hall of famer now and Wlad will be shortly. They don't put "B grade boxers" in the hall of fame. I think I'll take the Boxing Writers opinions over yours unless you get a hall of fame vote?
You hear this BS a lot when it comes to fighters but how does anyone prove it? Fighters can only fight who is in front of them and the K's never ducked anyone. That's all they could do and like it or not, Vitali's in alongside all these fine men and Wlad will be in another 3 years or so:
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern.html
They were around for a long time. Couldn't rise to the top until SEVERAL quality boxers left the heavyweight division. They stayed on top for long enough to qualify for HoF but only because the contenders in the weight class were all jokes for years. Years! Eliminate 50% of the world's most beautiful women and see who wins beauty pageants.
I'm not saying that they suck completely. Only that they are 2nd tier quality. B team types. Good enough to put in the way of someone who is on their way to the top.
Klitschko haters always say they fought in a weak era but Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield all fought part of their careers in the same era and no one ever says they fought in a weak era. I guess it was only a weak era for the Klitschkos and a strong era for everyone else.
shareWho cares? As far as I'm concerned, Vitali has validated himself by getting elected to the Hall of Fame as soon as he was eligible. He could have been inducted earlier but he came back after retiring for 4 years. Wlad will also go in as soon as he is eligible. It doesn't matter what internet trolls think when a committee of boxing industry professionals are voting them into the Hall of Fame. Anyone downgrading a Hall of Fame fighter either has low intellect or lacks boxing acumen or both.
If anyone fought in a down era it was Tyson and Holyfield who I'm not taking anything away from but in today's era of Superheavyweights, a 5'11 fighter and a 6'2 fighter just wouldn't cut it. Anything under 6'5 would be considered small in today's HW division and the HW division of the last several years. Really the last decade or more. We just had a HW championship fight between a 6'9 fighter and a 6'7 fighter. 5'11? Give me a break.
The reason I started this thread was to post how dumb this episode was with their subtle shots at the fighters shown at the beginning of the episode (Corrie Sanders was also a very good HW) and to say that this has aged badly with Vitali now being inducted to the Hall of Fame. That was just a comedy show and not to be taken seriously but as you can see by some of the dumb ass responses here, there are real people that think this way. Well, eat your hearts out because Vitali is in the Hall of Fame with ALL the greats of boxing and will be until the end of time. Wlad to follow shortly.
huh? mike tyson holyfield's era is considered the 90's which was a very good era compared to klitchko's reign... i do agree with the OP though, saying Vitali or Wlad don't hit hard is beyond ridiculous, klitchko boys seem to think they are unbeatable which blows my mind
shareWhile they might not be B grade fighters like Raydeen says, they certainly benefited from fighting in such a weak era of heavyweight boxing. Slavs are tough but they aren't great at boxing. They have tight hips and don't have a natural feel for it.
shareIt's funny how the second the K Bros began their historic run it became a "weak" era and the second they retired it was "Heavyweight boxing is back." That is according to the anti-Klitschko types who enjoy downplaying their era to make themselves feel better. Meanwhile, their heavily hyped successor, Joshua, was just ktfo by a guy that in no way, shape or form would ever have stood a chance against either of the K Bros. Boxing is hard. You don't just dominate for 10 years without being very good and dedicated. Joshua couldn't do it.
"Slavs aren't good at boxing." There's no point in wasting time discussing boxing with people that know absolutely nothing about it. Maybe you should watch Lomachenko (Ukrainian and current Ring Magazine P4P#1) fight this weekend. You might learn something. You'll still have the same biased opinions either way so maybe don't waste your time. Maybe just stick to posting the fairy tales and heavily biased opinions.
Just the fact that this thread - about what a fictional tv character said on an episode of a show from 15 years ago - could trigger the K Bro haters to come out of their holes and generate so many responses speaks to how threatened these clowns STILL are that a couple of college educated chaps from the Ukraine carved out hall of fame boxing careers in the sport's most prestigious division. Amazing success story. They still don't know what hit them and are trying to play it off with their cliche "weak era" business. Meanwhile, no heavy in the newly "revived HW division," will come close to that kind of dominance. Joshua's career may be over before it really gets started if he loses to Ruiz next time.
shareI implied that they were indeed good fighters. However, they are slightly overrated. They shouldn't be considered among the greats of old.
shareUsyk and Lomachenko are both Slavs and probably the two best fighters in boxing today.
It's just best not to discuss the sport with people that know nothing about it.
This thread triggered the K Bro haters but I never hear how shitty the current era of Heavyweight boxing is even though Joshua and Wilder are clearly flawed and in no way as dominant as the bros were. I wonder why. Easy to figure out.
shareThe Klitschkos were the best Heavyweights from 2004-2016, PERIOD and were completely dominant. Earned their way into the hall of fame and that can't be taken away from them. It's funny how no one questions Lewis's opposition or era but the division instantly went to s*** the second he retired? The Klitschkos were only a success because of a "weak era?" Bullsh**. Boxing fans are the biggest losers on the planet. Not only are they hugely biased for and against certain fighters but they defend all the bogus decisions and funny business this "sport" has to offer IF it fits their narrative and benefits their favorites.
I just had this same argument w/someone else. . .interesting to see the discussion here. Let me pick your brain:
1) Who's your pick for best P4P all time?
2) How do you think Tyson would do against the K bros? Ali? Lewis?
(When comparing, I'm stipulating peak vs. peak. Should go w/o saying, but often these discussions get derailed by outlier/past prime performances.)
I love that the K Brothers trigger people well after their retirement. I'm sure Fury triggers the same people. Fury knocking out Wilder had to be a huge blow to these people. Wilder was their guy.
shareWladimir just joined Vitali in the boxing hall of fame. Eat your hearts out, haters.
http://www.ibhof.com/