Is this an educational movie for a guy who is more like Kevin James' character than Will Smith's? I have no clue what most pretty girls are like and it showed a little how some girls at bars are like. Any comments on if this can be a good movie to help a guy up his game??
shareBe handsome, rich and mean and you'll score some hot women. That's what the movie basically teaches. Everything else in the movie is pretty much BS -- if you think Kevin Smith can score a supermodel lol then finding women is the least of your problems.
share> if you think Kevin Smith can score a supermodel lol
Um, the Allegra character was *hardly* a supermodel. She was slim, but come on, her face looked lived in. (Kevin Smith? YOu're talking about Kevin James.) Actually, Kevin James' real life wife is quite a bit younger and cuter than that character -- was linked in another thread.
Kevin James in real life is not comparable to the character that he plays in a movie! He plays the typical shy guy that lacks social skills in communicating with women. In real life, he's a freakin' celebrity with a lot more success. Sort of a difference, don't ya think?
shareBeing handsome, rich and mean has nothing to do with it! Albert was never mean to Allegra, in fact he was very nice to her.
Julia Roberts married Lyle Lovett, Heidi Klum has a child with Seal! Ringo Starr married a Bond girl!!! Looks have nothing to do with it. You just have to treat a girl right, make her laugh, show her a good time and try to impress her with small details. I used to have a boyfriend who actually brought me a single flower cut from some garden cause he said it reminded him of me! I thought it was really sweet, and it had nothing to do with looks, money, fame... maybe that's the way to get one of the playmates... but not a real woman.
Karev: Why is he suturing his own face?
Yang: To turn me on.
I admit that women care less about looks than men do. This is because women have been conditioned over the years to look pretty and find a rich suitor who will be a good provider for her and their children; as old fashioned as this may seem it is how many children are still raised. Somehow I doubt a handsome guy with money, childish behavior notwithstanding, would lose against a sweet ugly guy with a good personality -- of course women would deny this because who among us would want to believe something so terrible about ourselves? I actually have no problem with women choosing the better looking person, men do the same thing, I just hate the fact that women feel the need to make excuses and lie about the reason. They lie about the reason because they want to appear moral in the eyes of others. Men don't have to lie about it because men are judged by how beautiful their wife or girlfriend is. Lyle Lovett was rich and famous at the time, Seal rich and famous, Ringo Starr rich and famous. Men who are not goodlooking often have to compensate by being rich and/or famous. If a woman sees a man who is famous (liked by other people and desired by other women) it is attractive because getting this man's attention would instantly put her on a higher plane than all those other people who want him thereby inflating her ego and and sense of worth. Gene Simmons is an ugly man but he got women because he was desired by a lot of other women -- I find it hard to believe that Gene the postman could get as much poon as Gene the rockstar. Men have to be stern with women because they respond to that. We live in a patriarchal society -- women want men like their fathers who lay down the law this is why nice and humble guys often finish last and get walked all over. Everything guys do even that saccharin flower trick your boyfriend pulled is a ploy to get laid. LOL you reminded him of that flower -- what a load of dung -- but it obviously worked. All men are insensitive, lying, manipulative *beep* and all women are naive, shallow, hypocritical whores -- this is a fact that no one wants to believe about themselves.
shareThefilmjock, no offense man, but you don't know anything about women. I'm guessing you don't get too many women. And i'm pretty sure i'm right because of the post that you just made. You're views are all wacked out of line. I mean I used to be the same way too. I used to think that being goodlooking is what women are attracted to. But I've found that I have had great sucess and i'm not that good looking. I'm 5'8 tall. I'm 20 years old and i'm already losing my hair. I'm a barista at a coffee house and go to a community college. Yet I can still get women. I can get more beautiful women than some 6 foot tall guys with a great face, great hair, and a fantastic body and lots of money. I didn't always know how because I used to have similar views as you man. I hate to break it to ya but if you don't change your cynical views on women you're going nowhere. It all starts by learning to love women and not hating them. If you really want to find out how to get women then go wikipedia the seduction community. Otherwise you aren't going to get anywhere.
shareEtherGhost - the fact that you had to drop 3000 dollars to go to a Mystery Method boot camp doesn't make you any better than thefilmjock. It makes you even more pathetic that you had to rely on someone else's method and mindgames to boost your chances with women. PUAs like Mystery and Neil Strauss should've just kept the secret to themselves and let you AFC's to rot because without them you don't have the balls to gather any confidence to approach the opposite sex. So before you go out and insult people on their knowledge why don't you gather your own information instead of dropping cash and learning someone else's knowledge. If Mystery took the time to go out there and get rejected 1000 or more times to finally learn what works, you need to do it too instead of taking the short cut you follicular challenged pussy. Use more rogaine...see if your REAL courage will grow back.
shareWell Jeeze I don't remember mentioning anything about dropping 3G's on a Mystery bootcampt. I guess this makes you more pathetic than anyone else here seeing as you make up some real good BS to falsely characterize people on the internet. REALLLLLLLY smooth man.
shareantihero001: "Men who are not goodlooking often have to compensate by being rich and/or famous."
One of the most stupid things I've ever read. Such a moronic statement it is painful!! ha
no, it might help a little. but other than that read The Game by Neil Strauss, good luck, and good hunting ;)
shareI don't think it'll hurt. I think this movie reaffirms a few key things...
Confidence: Hitch has it in spades. The reasons are obvious. He's highly successful, quick-witted/smart & obviously well off and.. yeah, good looking. Now obviously we can only do so much with our looks (though, we can always improve ourselves to a certain point) the other things are all relatively within our control. If you want to be successful at what you do.. become an expert and put the effort in. If you want to be quick-witted and smart... read up on things you don't know about and hone your skills. If all of these things lead you to greater wealth, than (even without movie star looks) you'll have a greater sense of confidence.
Gameplan: Most guys go brain-dead when it comes to women. For those that are into sports (which is seemingly most) we know how important a good strategy and follow-through is. Yet, when it comes to women... most feel they can just wing it. 'Hitch' shows that you need to have a strategy and have the faith necessary to execute it... even when it doesn't feel natural. (take the scene where he kisses her.) Hitch told him about the signs... he knew deep down she wanted him to kiss her but he still pussed out... until he grew a set and manned up. Without that coaching, however, he would have just went with his natural tendency and pussed out.
Last but not least...
Be yourself: Early on in the movie, he coaches a bunch of guys and tells them to work within their own boundaries. Women can see through guys that are putting on an act. Now obviously there's a fine line since, on the surface anyway, some might think this movie is about manipulation and deception. Wrong. During the scene on the steps where Hitch is deciding whether or not to work with KJ... he comes to the conclusion that this bumbling clutz can actually pull it off because he's sincere and a good guy. He knows that, as long as he plays that card with Allegra, he'll have a shot. Conversely, if Hitch schooled him on how to be a smooth talking slickster jackass like all of the other douches that have tried to get into her pants... that clearly would have been a disaster on every level. Know yourself... know your strengths and weaknesses... improve upon the weaknesses you can but don't be a fraud about it.
Holy *beep* I wrote a lot... F it!
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umm... being cheeky? lmao wtf?
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there is no movie to understand women. im serious no man can understand the "psychie" of a woman...ever.
shareI agree with you nearly 100% ... If you use your methods (their mine too), you'll weed out the ones with issues and low self esteme. You success will be with the more beautiful women that aren't hard up for a relationship.
And you don't have to good looking, slim, rich ... Just confident with a sense of humor. And confidence includes acting like you really don't care if you succeed with her or not.
That actually takes the pressure off the woman for having to perform. And when that happens, she'll be more responsive and aggressive. Because she feels that she's in control .... <wink wink> But we know better.
If you use the confident, funny approach and seemingly not hard up for a relationship, you be seen as very rare in her eyes .. And will stand out.
Oh by the way... I thought it was a great movie and I felt it was right on concerning women ... For both Smith's and James' character (except for the last scenes which seemed to cut the movie short.)
Is this a good movie to help me understand women?
Is this a good movie to help me understand women?
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Oh man, if you have to rely on flicks like this to understand women
It's a comedy to have a nice laugh but I don't think it has any educational purpose!!
a film made by women and for a female audience would be more like it
Everything you know is wrong!
(Watch more TV)
There are hundreds of books on relationships. And I've read several by the major authors (ie. Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus) But I've found one obscure author who seems to have got it very close to right. (I'm sure there are others)
When I watched Hitch, with a couple of minor exceptions, I swore that he was the technical consultant for this movie. But if you get the DVD, there is a special featurette that interviews dating consultants and they too seemed to be close in their beliefs to the author I am aware of.
The point is, this movie or the special featurette that come with the DVD are not even close to helping you understand women (if it's possible). The movie is a small subset and what it does show and it doesn't explain why. But it's good movie and it can open up discussions if you read any of the books.
All women are different, but in general what attracts the women who are emotionally the healthiest, is quite similar. That's confidence and a sense of humor. But it helps to be emotional healthy also.
The only way that a relationshipbook/this movie/a dating expert will help is if all the women on this planet all of the sudden act and think exactly the same. I am sure that most people out there know that this is never gonna happen.
Women act differently to guys depending on their own life, their past, what they expect in the future, how they are feeling at the moment, culture and even what their friends think.
Just by thinking that all women are alike, and that some advice from a pretend character will make us interested, is probably enough to make us NOT-interested.
There is NO WAY to understand us women, because we are not all alike. You can fall in love and learn to understand THAT woman though and I think that's what you should go for!
I think everyone is missing the point. Its no revelation that every woman is different and has different needs. But if you truly study the female psyche, you would find that women share qualities that are inherently the same regardless of their looks, age, or male selection process. What men need to understand is that they must cater to the different needs of the woman and at the same time understand the thinking process of the female brain which is based more on emotions than logic. Men like structure and logic, whereas women dont have structure but give responses based on their emotions. Once this key code is deciphered throughly only then can men truly respond properly.
shareYes and no. Look at Will Smith. He's muscular and fresh. None of this Pickup works without that.
Workouts, man. Go to bodybuilding.com and get on a basic plan.
the best advice i have ever received about understanding women is to stop thinking that women are so complex and need to be deeply studied and "understood". women are just like men but with vaginas, except they smell better and are a little softer, that's the only difference though. when they're with their friends they talk about the same stuff that we talk about when we're with our friends pretty much. don't let the idea of "women" overwhelm and intimidate you, they're really not that difficult. there you go, an honest lesson on women, and you didn't have to buy a $10 ticket to learn it. now get out there and get your Vance Munson on!
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