Women and Sex

It's not that she was innocent, but that also isn't exactly the point.

Was she rather naive, even dumb, for believing his bs? Most likely yes. However does that change what he did? No.

Your reasoning implies that just because you posses the ability to deceive and fool another person, there is nothing wrong with doing so. There are many people in this world dumb enough to be tricked in a situation like this, but it would hardly be a + if everyone went around taking advantage of these situations (which obviously, it does).

In conclusion, he is hardly innocent. He took advantage of someone who was less savvy than he was, and less careful than she should have been.

The only answer is that he wanted to have sex and she liked him. Here is a crazy idea.......women like sex just as much as men and she was horny. Regretting it the next day does not make him the bad guy.

It kind of ticks me off that you equate being upset that you got screwed over with being raped. Rape is a horrifying for the victim you don't just get a little upset. Their is a reason it is a crime. The guy was a jerk he wasn't a true villain by any means and they didn't act like he was. He lied to women to get them into bed which makes him a jerk. They weren't calling the cops on them, they treated him like a slime ball not a criminal.

Its something you'll get used to a mental mind *beep* can be nice!

This is the problem I have with these little town girls (or guys for that matter) who come to NYC to make their lives. Most of them are more naive than Donna Martin!

He did lie to her in order to get "in there" as Vance tried to quote Hitch's resume... He was all crying and "Food has lost its taste..." and all that crap. He may have said that to Hitch for advice on how to get her back when she refused his calls, but he wanted to bang her. He said that to her in order to get in but she didn't know that, she thought he was being real.

I grew up in NY but not in the city, although nearby enough to visit every few months. I now live in Queens and work in the Bronx and I have to see quite a bit of Manhattan anyway... I see these posters up all over the place

"Have you seen her??? Missing since 12/31/11... Visiting from <small town, Midwest state> and was staying at her friend's studio apartment in Harlem. Went out New years eve and never came back, won't answer her cell phone...

Nothing against this city but people from small towns no where near this city or any city like it, have to take some serious total immersion courses in the Street Smarts department.


Casey is lucky she didn't get herself killed...



"Oh Thank you God! Thank you so BLOODY much!" Basil Fawlty

She knew from the beginning but she said she haven't been ridden in months
she forced herself to believe his lies because she wanted the same thing
Society doesn't go hard on men like him or men having sex without emotions, unlike women
so some women pretend to believe just to make themselves feel better about their decisions, to get the same thing that men are after.


It is never about what happened, it is only how you look at it!

From what I understand, he acted as if he wanted a serious relationship with her. I think it's messed up if you play with someone's feelings like that. She was looking for a relationship, not a one night stand.

That's how I think he played it with her. Pretended to not want a one night stand, and she bought it.

It's like that episode in Fresh Prince of Bel-Air where Smith married someone just to have sex with her. In the end, he couldn't go through with it when she was ready for sex. He told her the truth, that the marriage was fake and he just wanted to sleep with her. Vance was basically Smith's character in that episode, but he didn't stop.

You can't persuade fanboys. You'd be better off trying to convince a wall. ~CodeNamePlasmaSnake~